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DMT - Disapointing Me Turrribly

I can't imagine someone NOT having a mindblowing experience on DMT.

I mean, I can see someone coming out of the trip without any revelations about the meaning of life or the deep dark secrets of the universe, or anything like that... and just getting some "weird" vibes, maybe... but those are going to be some INTENSE weird vibes.


Here's the thing. You can smoke a huge amount, but unless you get it in two or three (maybe four) BIG rips, one after the other, quickly as you can -- you're not going to get a decent trip. You've got to put the pedal to the metal when you're smoking deems, haha. Without burning it of course.



But, I mean, you gave it a shot. DMT is not for everyone, that's for sure. If it were, then the president of the United States would be bathing in giant clouds of Spirit vapor.
 
yeaaa unfortunately i understand hwo to smoke it and every technique iv used ''worked'' i guess but its no better than taking 2 noiice hits of some good acid. (the good acid, not the crap they got goin around today)

dont get me wrong, i did trip hard and somtimes lost complete feeling of my body but it was a joke. ifi realllllly wantd to snap myself out of it, i think i could lol.


lol fuck man, ifi was the president of the u.s. id b bathing in heroin. a gauranteed good time. and when i had to urinate or excreet bodily waste, it would b onto a pile of dmt lol.

i gues my expectations wer to high. iv been following terrance mckenna for yeaars. i was really into that timewave zero crap, n then i got involved with his dmt stories ect ect.
shit did noothingg for me in relation to mr.mckenna. im actually crushed. i thought i would gain atleast Sommmething from it LOL.

idk wat to do, im done meditating (again lol) and done chasing these goofy dreams. we really are alone out here and i gues i jus need to get use to it.


thanks for the help from everyone tho... i have enough left for one more attempt but i think im jus guna stick to the real drugs if i wana 'travel the universe' haah.
thanx again. goodbye everyone =(
 
also, on a side note.... that one time i did trip my fukn face off, alls i did was laugh. i couldnt stop. i was tryin to concentrate on where/what i was going thru but it was jus dark weirdness things flyin by. and i jus lol'd.
was alot of fun and funny but again,,, good acid, and or some great weed woulda done me better.

i really thought this was the key to the universe that that stiffy from the spirit mole book. Pssssffffffft lol
 
^ Another option: try drinking ayahuasca. That's another way of getting DMT into your neural synapses.

Or just stick with good old LSD. %)


P.S. Heroin's NOT a real drug. :p
 
Heroin is life-robbing garbage, while DMT is a force for light in the universe.

OP, the reason you weren't very impressed by DMT is probably because you had "sniffed 2mg of xannies" before smoking it (which is pointless, btw, as xanax contains so many binders and fillers as to make sniffing them less effective than taking them orally). That dose of xanax would allow you to experience the trip without gaining any meaningful insight from it, because that's what xanax does: it robs you of insight. It's a garbage drug, too, btw-- possibly even worse than heroin and that is really saying something.

Also, I think this thread highlights some of the pitfalls of the "new age" movement's emphatic proselytism of DMT. It's not the "key to the universe", but it is a tool than can be used to gain insight into the human condition and consequently better one's life. If you use the substance with good intentions, frankly its hard to be disappointed.
 
^ With what intentions do you reckon one should approach DMT, Roger? :)

Or do you just have to discover that on your own?

I always assumed that it was fairly difficult to approach DMT with any useful intentions, simply because it's a phenomenon entirely incomprehensible until it actually happens.
 
In this case, it seems most useful for "proper intention" to be an attitude rather than the desire to achieve a specific goal that can be stated explicitly. I think its important to have a fundamental openness to all possibilities of the mind when diving into a DMT experience, without limiting yourself by imposing the strictures of expectations and preconceived notions.

DMT is amazingly bizarre, and really has the potential to radically alter the way you perceive the human experience. Simply knowing that the mind is capable of producing such a preposterously extravagant psychedelic carnival is enough to send all commonly held notions of consensus reality out the window.

Due to this power, I think its especially important to treat the experience with respect and be open to the experience on the experience's terms, not your own. Take it for what it is, nothing more and nothing less. You can really learn a lot about the astonishing possibilities of the human imagination if you approach DMT with the right attitude. :) <3
 
glad the OP finally had a decent experience. DMT is the fucking shit, and ive had some very intense trips on it.

try it on an acid peak and you'll really be in for a treat.

the last time i smoked DMT (just by itself, not with acid) i almost had a bad experience though. there were some parts of the trip that i wanted to be over, and i had some images of getting cancer and being in the hospital and regretting smoking all the shit i have over the years (although i didn't remember this part until a couple hours later when it finally dawned on me). i really wanted to come out of the trip and for it to be over, since i was kind of freaking out a lil and was tripping pretty hard. the experience when i finally came down though was amazing.

also, it seems like if you do too much you end up tripping so hard that you don't remember what happened. when you finally come down you just remember that something really intense happened but you can't really grasp what it was. don't get me wrong i still breakthrough on all my trips, i just prefer around 25-30mg of the stuff.
 
yeaa idk. iv had some intense experiences with it, and somtimes lost complete feeling inmy body. and i could see the 'wormhole' if u will.. looked like the world was dripping past me. it was cool no doubt, and it made me lol Alot that one time,, but from all the stories iv heard n videos iv seen, idk it jus didnt add up..

ifi wrote how i Really felt about dmt, id prlly b kickd off this forum lol..
i dont doubt its power (and potential??) but i gues its jus not for me. i dont have $ to jus throw around on a gamble like that.

and yea heroin will rob ur life but that is a real drug lol. shit'll fuck u str8 lol. even if ur on suboxon or methadone or some other kind of opiate blocker, u'll Still feel the dope lol.

idk i dont mean any disrespect towards it (.... =\ ) but from all my experiences its been nothing but a disapointment. i gues ifi met an entitititity or somethin it'd b amazing but other than that its jus another drug (a weak one imo lol) maybe i jus need a puree pure potent version of it?

isint there a way to reduce it with a a/b xtraction er somshit to make it more concentrated?
also, this shit is stil a pain to smoke even wit the ash.. freebasing is much better ><
 
^^
ive never had a problem with smoking it out of a regular glass bowl with about 4 brass screens stacked on top of each other. lick the flame in and out (practice until you find the right speed/technique so that it doesnt burn the compound too much), making sure to hold in ur hits long, but not too long so that ur 2nd hit isn't significant.

also, u may want to look up some of that information u posted about methadone or suboxone. methadone isn't an opiate blocker, its a long acting opiate that is used to try and fill the gap in dependent opiate users brains'.

edit: oh and this one time i did meet an entity. she reached her hand out of the TV towards me and was calling my name while visualizers were going. it was pretty epic. it only happened once, and ive done DMT over 23 times. i may have met other entities but just dont remember them.
 
Since nobody mentioned antything about it; try holding the smoke in the loungs for as long time as possible.

I've had great experiences with smoked 5-MEO-DMT, but not until I began holding the vapor/smoke in the lungs for 10-15 seconds or maybe more. I only have one experience with DMT and it was oral with a MAOI.

//blazR
 
I've always found DMT more of a novelty than anything else; mostly because of it's expensive price, short lasting high and it's heavy body load. I enjoy it once every so often though I could never do it more than a couple of times a month and the short lasting time it lasts never really gives me enough time to delve into my mind. I find that LSD gives me a much (cheaper) drawn out psychedelic experiance, that lets me get properly introspective and existential.
 
^^
maybe consider 5-meo-DMT then. ive never tried it but it's supposed to be more of the mental tripping you're looking for.

and ya on DMT sometimes i get some slight introspective thoughts, but most of the time it's usually a very intense visual experience, although that can be introspective in it's own way within the subconscious possibly.
 
It took me over 30 smoked DMT experiences before I met the elves, and indeed realized the full potential of depth of this drug.
I'd had out of body experiences, intense panick experiences (thoughts of having died, not coming back, etc).
With low doses, I've had mind bending geometric patterns, reptilian visions, shared hallucinations, and profound insight.
I've also had low - medium doses in public, walking around both Philadelphia and Manhattan, also in Brooklyn, and in the woods.
I've been able to function and navigate in that head space, other times I've been paralysed or at least severly incapacitated.
When I broke through and saw the elves for the first time, the profound impact it had on my perception outshined all of my life atlering experiences with psilocybin, LSd, mescaline, and the rest.
I've never been so shaken to the core, and I've been shaken pretty fucking hard before. I came out of it in tears and trembling uncontrolably for several minutes, unable to speak a single word to describe what had just occured to me.
So, for what it's worth, in my experience, I've found DMT to be both a gentle and a violent teacher, it can be an enjoyable trip and a devestating life lesson.
It takes practice to learn how to smoke it properly, and it takes practice nagivating the first stage of visions before your allowed to "break through".
Again this is my take on it, everyone is different and in general I tend to be hypersensitive to psychedelic drugs anyway.
But treating DMT as a joke will definitely not get you any closer to where you want to go. It has a personality, and like any new person you want to get to know, you first have feelings of distrust and nervousness.
Give it a chance and slowly open yourself up to it as you get more comfortable and familiar with it.
Good luck.
 
^ what this person said.

ive been fucking deep on DMT before... ego death a few times, met some kind of a budda and a godess. the whole experience feels very feminine. i ended up in some alien underground complex being guided along. a lot more things happened which i cant be assed to type, and which i cant comprehend. very beautiful amazing geometric patterns
 
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that doestnt even describe 1/8 o wat happend...

maan i tripped bananas. i kept repackin n gettin tossed int othe same place.

dmt fuckn rules. i havent seen any entitites but i lost touch wit my body, and tripped so fuckn hard i was gone. i was laughing so hard that i was tearing. for a good 20min.
noon sotp laughing. so hard icouldnt control myself. inever laughed that hard since highschool.

im guna try a super super dose tonight.
thanks again.. the ash worked..
il post tonight with my super super super relity visit.

again ty
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haha, read the whole thread,
totally knew this post was coming.

took me a while too, but eventually... it will happen to you!
 
To be honest, DMT was never too intense for me. When I IV'd MDA, I had a very strong, intense, amazing experience, which is what I expected out of DMT.

I guess I'm not as sensitive to DMT as most other people are, or I haven't had a huge dosage of it. The material I may have may not be 100% or even close to it as plant material can get through a raw extraction.

I have had a definitely good DMT experience, it's just more like a slightly more intense than an LSD experience sort of level, not a "wow I'm surprised my heart didn't give out" sort of experience I had with IV MDA.
 
is yellow dmt considered crapp? the clear is super potent righ? i needa get some potent shit. so far dmt has yet to do anything cept make me laugh.
 
Yellow should still blast you to the ends of the universe man, you're just doing it wrong simple as that.

My advice since everything else we've suggested in this thread has seemingly failed, find someone with experience blasting people off to breakthrough experiences and have them do all of the lighting etc. for you.
 
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