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DMT as a restorative adjunct to MDMA use

You're absolutely right, Care. Apologies for not including that caveat. I am talking about *vaporizing* DMT.

DO NOT INGEST A MAOI WHILE ON MDMA IT IS VERY DANGEROUS


Thanks for point that out.

DMT does not really compare to salvia. They are completely different experiences. I've never actually done salvia, but most of my friends have and they say it is very scary intense and hard to integrate. DMT on the other hand, is extremely positive and integrates into people's lives usually in a beautiful way.

peace and love
 
samadhi_smiles said:
DMT does not really compare to salvia. They are completely different experiences. I've never actually done salvia, but most of my friends have and they say it is very scary intense and hard to integrate. DMT on the other hand, is extremely positive and integrates into people's lives usually in a beautiful way.

peace and love

Good to know. I'm definantly going to try it without any other drugs the first time I do it. I wouldnt know the first place to look to buy any, so I guess i'll just have to extract it myself sometime. Maybe I can get some of my friends to pitch in for some mimosa.....
 
samadhi_smiles said:
^ no, what an odd question to ask, though have you heard to the contrary? DMT is not neurotoxic to the human brain.


i've never heard of DMT before, i had to look up what it stood for lol

just thought id ask


its a plant, right? or comes from a plant?
 
Question samadhi...

... i know it depends highly on where you live (i live in a major metropolitan US city), and to the mods: i am not asking for a source or how to score anything. I just wanted to know, in your opinion since DMT is a relatively obscure drug, is it easier to obtain via searching for a hook or synthesizing yourself as you suggest googling the teks?
 
much, much, much easier to obtain from extracting it yourself. Its pretty rare to see it being sold (it shouldn't be sold imo but only given!). I've seen a few people selling it at festivals over the years but never like a regular thing...its always an oddity when it pops up...like "oh yeah that dude had a tenth gram of DMT he was trying to sell, you should go check him out".

Search for "straight to base" teks. They are extremely easy to do. One afternoon of work and you can have 2 grams of DMT (~40 breakthrough doses).

<3
 
I'm planning on trying this combo tomorrow if things go as planned. :)

The last time I took MDMA was Jan 1 2006 and this is the same stuff, so I'm familiar with what the pills are like (no idea as to the purity but definitely MDx). I'll be taking one and then a half as a supplement (same as last time and all I have left).

I'll be alone and intend for this to be an introspective and therapeutic experience. Mostly just for some psychospiritual house-cleaning and for some motivation for the start of the year. I'll be taking between 15-20mg of 2C-B right after returning to baseline from the MDMA as well.

I've had some synthetic n,n DMT for a while now, but have never attempted a breakthrough dose. I've had a few low doses but thats about it. I'm hoping after an initial positive first experience with MDMA + DMT, subsequent DMT experiences will likely be more pleasant as I'll be more able to 'give in' rather than fighting the experience.

I also have some 5-MeO-DMT that I've had for over 3 years now and haven't tried as it scares the shit out of me. I've read some amazing things about 5-MeO-DMT in combination with MDMA and might try this too. Does anyone have any experience with this combo?

As I'll be myself I'm curious if there are any other concerns and/or safety considerations I should be aware of?
 
What is bk-MDMA?

I find this thread fascinating. I have always been interested in DMT, but never researched it as much as I would like to.

I'm a bit concerned about mixing anything with MDMA, as I have had horrible experiences mixing 2CB with MDMA at the end of an MDMA experience. Any reason to think that s similar sensitivity would be present with DMT? I love 2CB alone, but when I mix it with MDMA I get horrible headaches, shaking...bad things...
 
What is bk-MDMA?
Methylone


I'm a bit concerned about mixing anything with MDMA, as I have had horrible experiences mixing 2CB with MDMA at the end of an MDMA experience. Any reason to think that s similar sensitivity would be present with DMT? I love 2CB alone, but when I mix it with MDMA I get horrible headaches, shaking...bad things...

Its hard to say, but from what I've read my general impression is that MDMA tends to mix better with tryptamines rather than other phens.
 
e1evene1even,

I read the link that you posted regarding methylone. Very interesting. I followed another link about it, and it indicated that it does not produce a black reaction with marquis. So, I assume this would make it a difficult substance to sneak into a pill if a user is going to use testing kits?

How would you describe the differences between MDMA and Methylone? Do you find methylone to be equally as rewarding?
 
I haven't tried it personally so I can't compare. From what I've read I think the consensus is that its a worthwhile material but lacks the 'magic' of MDMA.

To relate to the topic, I wonder how M1 mixes with DMT?
 
Interesting experience last night.

I took the E on a completely empty stomach around 8 pm and by 10 I still wasn't feeling anything so I smoked some cannabis and took my supplement (1/3 of first dose). About 20 minutes later it kicked in, but was fairly weak (the pills were over 2 years old so may have deteriorated).

I smoked small amounts of DMT through the night, but nothing big. I'll probably wait for some pure MDMA and try this combo again. One thing I was convinced of, is that 2 years is way to long between doses. <3

By 1am I was mostly down and I took 22mg of 2C-B at 1:45. For any type of synergy I think I should've taken the 2C-B earlier. The 2C-B didn't really kick in at all, but there also wasn't any 'crash' from the E. The 2C-B seemed to act like a soft pillow. I went to sleep around 7am and woke up about 4pm. I felt really tired, but totally fine otherwise. :) I will use 2C-B in this context again.

--My Harm Reduction Regimen--
Throughout the night I ate 5 organic apples, and drank 2 glasses of OJ. I also took ~5 1000mg time release vitamin C, 1 B100 time release. On the MDMA decline I took 100mg 5-HTP (and another before sleep). A few hours after taking the 2C-B I took 1 600mg NAC (would've taken more but I ran out). When I woke this morning I took 200mg of SAMe, and will likely take 400mg per day for the next few days.
 
Interesting experience last night.

I took the E on a completely empty stomach around 8 pm and by 10 I still wasn't feeling anything so I smoked some cannabis and took my supplement (1/3 of first dose). About 20 minutes later it kicked in, but was fairly weak (the pills were over 2 years old so may have deteriorated).

I smoked small amounts of DMT through the night, but nothing big. I'll probably wait for some pure MDMA and try this combo again. One thing I was convinced of, is that 2 years is way to long between doses. <3

By 1am I was mostly down and I took 22mg of 2C-B at 1:45. For any type of synergy I think I should've taken the 2C-B earlier. The 2C-B didn't really kick in at all, but there also wasn't any 'crash' from the E. The 2C-B seemed to act like a soft pillow. I went to sleep around 7am and woke up about 4pm. I felt really tired, but totally fine otherwise. :) I will use 2C-B in this context again.

--My Harm Reduction Regimen--
Throughout the night I ate 5 organic apples, and drank 2 glasses of OJ. I also took ~5 1000mg time release vitamin C, 1 B100 time release. On the MDMA decline I took 100mg 5-HTP (and another before sleep). A few hours after taking the 2C-B I took 1 600mg NAC (would've taken more but I ran out). When I woke this morning I took 200mg of SAMe, and will likely take 400mg per day for the next few days.

Sounds like you need some stronger E, and a bigger dose of DMT.
 
What is bk-MDMA?

I find this thread fascinating. I have always been interested in DMT, but never researched it as much as I would like to.

I'm a bit concerned about mixing anything with MDMA, as I have had horrible experiences mixing 2CB with MDMA at the end of an MDMA experience. Any reason to think that s similar sensitivity would be present with DMT? I love 2CB alone, but when I mix it with MDMA I get horrible headaches, shaking...bad things...

I've had quite the opposite experience, my experience with mdma and 2c-b was quite amazing. I also had a phenomenal trip from taking mdma and 2c-i. Truly awesome.

I haven't done dmt after or during an mdma experience, I just don't have strong enough lungs (maybe desensitized is a better word) to be able to smoke dmt. I have tried it one time before and it was disastrous. I would consider im'ing it, but I would be hesistant unless I knew the purity beyond the shadow of a doubt.
 
^ you can inject DMT and it works even better than smoking it (filtered with a micron filter)

I'm glad this thread is still around...I was hoping as many people as possible could find it and possibly try DMT for the first time.

It really is a lovely chemical with tremendous healing powers (like preventing some MDMA-type blues) <3
 
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