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Tryptamines DMT and the pineal gland

untrue ive heard dumbasses say

Lsd is bad because it puts holes in your brain

ecstasy is bad because it stays in your spine

they cant drug test for mushrooms because the only way to do it is a spinal tap

any fucking moron who believes any of that mismatched psuedo-propaganda bullshit should be removed from the gene pool
 
swilow said:
DMT doesn't even have anything to do with death; thats just a pretty-badly-thought out theory IMO.
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Thank you, I always hear "LOL you get DMT when you die and sleep" but it's nowhere near proven, in fact it's a theory that made a lot of assumptions.

On topic, your friend is wrong. What would be the point of smoking DMT if one could just spontaneously use the DMT that may or may not be in their brain?
 
Dr. Rick Strassman, the pioneer of modern day psychedelic research, suggested during his clinical studies of N,N-DMT in the '90s that the pineal gland in the centre of the brain produces N,N-DMT and that accidental releases of it could be the cause of people claiming to be abducted by aliens. This is because people often encounter trans-dimensional beings while under the influence of N,N-DMT. He also suggested that N,N-DMT could be responsible for dreams and death, as many people have dream-like experiences and Near Death experiences while on N,N-DMT. None of this has been proven, al though it is quite possible that N,N-DMT is produced endogenously in the human body considering its found throughout many living species, and in rather high concentrations in some plants. Someone mixed up these suggestions from Dr. Strassman and like a game of telephone, after a few people hear a story and put their spin on it to embellish the story, you end up with something like:

"Smoking DMT destroys the natural DMT you have and therefore your death won't be how its supposed to be and it could be unpleasant because you've already used up your dmt and it never comes back."

That is False. At least there is no evidence to even suggest that possibility.

This is going straight to the "Drug stories you have heard that sound like bullshit" thread

http://bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=312247&page=10

edit: DMT has been found to be produced endogenously, "in human urine, blood, and cerebrospinal fluid" (Science, 323, pg 934-947), so there is no question whether DMT is produced endogenously in the human body, but there is no proof that it is produced or is transported endogenously in the human brain. From the same Science article they suggest, "The binding, boichemical, physiological, and behavioural studies reported here all support the hypothesis that DMT acts as a ligand for the sigma-1 receptor." I don't know much about receptors, but I am under the impression that their are sigma-1 receptors in the brain, so this study may indicate further evidence that DMT is either endogenously produced in or is transported into the human brain. I have just posted a new thread in Advanced Drug Discussion asking whether or not the study provides further evidence that DMT can be found in the human brain.

The link to the thread is here:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?p=7772574#post7772574

Hopefully we'll get some answers soon!
 
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Sounds very much like boohockey.

There is no where near something like evidence for the basics of these endogenous DMT theories so extentions thereof must be even more speculative.

Fact of the matter is that exogenous DMT, when administered is really shortlived because the MAO system is a powerful homeostatic mechanism. That makes it quite quite doubtful that things could turn so awry like you portray!
 
LOL B9, you took the quote right outta my mouth!

*Must incorporate this word into a conversation within this week.*
 
Weeks nearly over tho so you'd better look sharp. I might even see if I can utilise it - but only if the conditions are optimum, as I feel that shoehorning the use of "boohockey" into an ill fitting conversation may leave me with a sense of dissatisfaction.
 
Haha whatever you do, if someone asks 'boohockey, whats that?' you say: 'you know, poppycock or balderdash, if someone is talking claptrap with applesauce! If it's total malarkey, oozing with twaddly bilge. Or in short: BS.' =D No offence to the OP :\ :) :D =D
 
I always find it amusing how LSD stays in your spine, and puts holes in your brain.. but wait a minute, so does ecstasy, and mushrooms!
 
Well I think people fear that because DMT is sometimes believed to facilitates some kind of spiritual transport from this world to the cosmic transpersonal matrix fucking with it could mean that your soul would be raped instead or something instead of the normal events that follow life.
While I just plain don't believe that it might very well be a bad idea to use pyschedelics the wrong way and totally screw your kundalini / energy flow in cns, you'd get a spiritual crisis or emergency like Stanislav Grof elaborately wrote about.
Another person could use completely other words for this but psychedelics can harm you as much as they can heal you. That much has to be true.
 
tBirdee said:
I always find it amusing how LSD stays in your spine, and puts holes in your brain..
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I knew it! That's what causes flashbacks. Also take LSD seven times are you ARE considered legally insane. =D

Maybe we can start a newer funnier rumor.... anyone got one?
 
down508 said:
untrue ive heard dumbasses say

Lsd is bad because it puts holes in your brain

ecstasy is bad because it stays in your spine

they cant drug test for mushrooms because the only way to do it is a spinal tap

any fucking moron who believes any of that mismatched psuedo-propaganda bullshit should be removed from the gene pool
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Damn....I almost ripped you apart, due to those first three statements.

Good thing I had a proof reader, so I didn't look like a dip-shit trying to smack some sense into your face that you already had.

Maybe LSD does put holes in your brain?!?!?!??!8o
no, no...that's just me "kicking" dope.

swilow said:
DMT doesn't even have anything to do with death; thats just a pretty-badly-thought out theory IMO.
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ahhh come on swillow. I KNOW YOU BELIEVE!;) everything and nothing has to do with deathhh...

ze later on, but some what early EDIT: ALWAYS remember moderation, and always show your loveorwhatnot when you can...cuz the demonsoranotherwhatnot will get chu.
 
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JackARoe said:
Maybe we can start a newer funnier rumor.... anyone got one?
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If you trip it makes Jesus cry a little. =D

Thats where he gets the name Jesus Cryst
(Verb conjugation was very underdeveloped in the early '00s)

For real though disinformation about a subject that is already not as well understood
as should be (drugs) makes me cry a little, so be careful what you pass along please...

Damn the jesus thing makes me wonder if LSD was once ever dropped on sacramental or
communion bread in a church, think of the believers! Of course I'm playing the devils advo-
cate here, and not only because the devil himself is not allowed in a church to do the job ;)
Holy water is sometimes put in those pieces they put on your tongue like a piece of blotter
so it all makes sense lol...
 
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Solipsis said:
If you trip it makes Jesus cry a little. =D


Damn the jesus thing makes me wonder if LSD was once ever dropped on sacramental or
communion bread in a church, think of the believers! Of course I'm playing the devils advo-
cate here, and not only because the devil himself is not allowed in a church to do the job ;)
Holy water is sometimes put in those pieces they put on your tongue like a piece of blotter
so it all makes sense lol...
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I don't know if you're saying that because you already know this, but there is a theory that the communion bread was, at some time, made with grain infected with the ergot fungus.
 
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