RCs Dissolving 4-FA in water

[trdfjko]

Only other RC I've done is 2C-E and this method worked really well.
Could I do the same for 4-FA? Couldn't find much on Google.

Thanks all!

 

[dokomo]

I've not been able to find any observational data on this. Judging from the structure and other extant chemical properties, 4-fluoroamphetamine should be virtually insoluble in water (the solubility I was able to calculate was around 0.7mg/L of water.)

 

[sekio]

Depends on whether it's freebase or a salt, the salt (sulphate or hcl) should easily be 30 or 40mg/ml soluble, maybe more. Freebase is going to be essentially insoluble but I would expect 'base 4-FA to be an oil like other phenethylamines.

 

[dokomo]

^correct. The figure I gave was for freebase 4-fluoroamphetamine.

 

[titstypedthis]

the hcl (which just about everyone gets8) )

is extremely water soluble, i don't know exact numbers but you should be able to dissolve 200-500mg in 1ml with some stirring and/or heating

honestly i was getting about 150mg in .2ml so...

 

[erbaviva_girls]

it tastes horrible

 

[trdfjko]

Just mix it with OJ!!

 

[sekio]

Of course it's going to taste horrible, normally eating huge amounts of amine salts is a great way to get poisoned in nature. Orange juice or gelcaps will help a ton.

 

[blsjr]

It might be a bad idea to use OJ to mask the 4-FA. When I used to take Adderall IR in the morning I noticed it was useless if I took it after eating a breakfast with OJ or anything acidic. Do a search, you'll find a lot of stuff about adderall and acidic stomach/bladder. Personally, I eat a pair of antacids a few minutes before dosing.

Of course the extra Fluorine molecule might change everything, but stomach acidity is probably something to pay attention to.

 

[debaser]

Bomb it. Put it in a cigarette paper, wrap it tightly to form a little solid chunk and voilà, no taste. Bon appétit