Displaying gang signs to undercovers leads to bust

Madhatter4 said:
Busts like this make me happy........ the kid was a sheer idiot
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I was going to make a similar comment, but then didn't because it would have be ignorant of me. I have no idea of the way the gang culture is in his area, so it woudl be highly presumtuous of me to assume that what he was doing was in any way out of the norm for his area. Those were undercovers he flashed the sign to. So he may have been well within the norms of his scene by flashing the signs. If he's playing by the 'rules' of his situation / lifestyle, I don't see how we can call him an idiot on that alone. However, I will say that he was clearly retarded when he let them go to his house - BUT, let's not forget that he had a bottle of xanax on him, and as I'm sure many, many, many people here can attest, if you've just popped a couple bars of xanax you're probably not in the best position to be making smart choices about how to handle the situation.
 
^^^^ You have to admit, though, that he seems a most polite and cooperative gang member. My grandmother would probably think he's "nice."
 
lol seriously. But again, if I had to guess, I'd say that the xanax in his pocket could very likely have been the root of his stupidity. How many times have you awoken in the morning only to (partially) remember what you did the day before? You just make dumb choices sometimes when you're all benzo'd out. Hell, the kid may not even remember the damn incident lol. There was this time in high school, one of my first benzo experiences ever. My friend was on them too, and I wouldn't drive his car (land rover) because I was too fuct up. So, he drove (even though he was as bad as I was). The next day he's like 'damn that was so messed up last night, I can't believe my rover is okay!' - that was at like late afternoon, and as soon as he said that it all came back to me - we drove back and he hit multiple mailboxes as he kept drifting off the road. It was amazing tho, I had gone all day without any recollection of the incident whatsoever. Benzos are a helluva a drug!
 
^^^^ Yeah, that's true of any depressant with retroactive amnesia qualities. I had some similar experiences with alcohol as a teenager. I remember waking up in the morning going, "Oh shit!" and running downstairs and checking the car out praying there weren't pieces of skull on the front fender.

Such behavior is highly unrecommended.

So maybe this kid is telling his lawyer, "Yo, I don't remember bringing those cops to my house, yo."

And for once he might be telling the truth.
 
'retrograde amnesia' or 'anterograde amnesia' I believe it's called. Gotta love benzos!!! God I love benzos :)
 
Darwinism, fucking Darwinism man.

I would have just said i was kidding, had i been stopped for that kind of thing, denied consent to a search. hell i probably would have dumped the xanax somewhere i could have found it later when i saw the car i just flash did a 180 and is now speeding towards me. seeing as they havent said "stop police", you can run all you want until they identify themselves and you should have more than enough time to dump the drugs. but most of all if i knew there were guns and drugs at my house id never be stupid enough to let some one in. Thats so fucking stupid. he could have said, im not letting enter the house, wait outside and ill go in and grab the ID.
 
definately a stash house....

you all really think an 18 year old kid who flashes gang signs is smart enough to stack up $65,000?!?!?!

come on now.
 
Mr. Pastorius said:
but most of all if i knew there were guns and drugs at my house id never be stupid enough to let some one in. Thats so fucking stupid. he could have said, im not letting enter the house, wait outside and ill go in and grab the ID.
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NO, no cop would be so stupid as to let a suspect already under arrest go into a house unaccompanied. He could use the time to shove drugs up his an0r or come out blasting away with a gun.

The right thing to say is I don't have one, its still legal in America not to have an ID.
 
god damn only 18 and 3.6keys he was on that corner hard , sun and rain . did they check his tube socks?
 
I've met younger kids who held more weight than that. And we don't even know whether or not that was his stuff, or a stash house....
 
WTF! Last time I checked, you can't get arrested for making gang signs. I'm from New York cops see the stacking all the time and they can't do shit. Watch it get dropped.
 
^ No, but you can sure as hell draw attention to yourself. He LET the cops into his home, therefore he can't object to the fact that they found shit in his house. He's just a dumb kid that got busted, deal with it. I seriously doubt that anything will get dropped. The cops will shout "plain sight" on the bag of coke, which will give them the right to search further. He's fucked, no matter how you want to look at it.
 
Ugh. Fucking cops are pigs. That's why I like to play them so much =)

Anyways, he forgot the golden rule. Never consent to a search!
 
What that little bastard gets. Like seriously, the military needs to get out of iraq, and start killing the real terrorists. People like this. Gangs are a fucked up part of our society. Why is it that we are willing to go after supposed "terrorists" half the world away, while there are real terrorists right here in our cities? Someone please tell me. Kill em all!!
 
gang members are hardly terrorists compared to the terrorists we're fighting. I'm not going to indicate my opinions one way or another on iraq or anything like that, but just because gang members use violence regularly doesn't mean they're terrorists - it means they're criminals.

Think of a terrorist bombing a building to scare americans. Gang members may use bombs (not that the weapon choice matters much per se), but gang members largely just fight with other gangs. Yes, there's collateral damage (hurt cops, hurt by standers, etc), but generally gangs are only engaging in violence against other gangs that are composed of people who accept that and choose that as their way of life.

(I should note that I'm not trying to say I think we should ignore gangs or anything like that, just trying to explain why gangs are not 'the real terrorists'. I grew up in a heavy gang area, I wasn't afraid of gangs, because I wasn't affiliated with any. They fight amongst themselves, that's different than regularly attacking the general public).
 
Yeah, phan what the fuck are you talking about. I don't remember crips or bloods ever crashing planes into buildings or blowing up American interests world wide. Let me guess, you're probably 13 or a college student too, huh? Fits the profile.
 
They wouldn't have to do massive scale acts of terrorism to be terrorists. I recently argued with someone here about whether destroying a hummer (and writing stuff about the environment all over it) was an act of terrorism. That may be stretching 'terrorism', but gangs that have regular shootouts with other gangs, brawl with other gangs, and sell drugs, hardly constitute terrorists. I'm not supporting them or anything, it's just not terrorism.
 
"They wouldn't have to do massive scale acts of terrorism to be terrorists."
But him calling gang members the "real terrorists" makes the scale important. As it is, gangs do not perform terrorist activities.
 
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