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Disappointed with heroin?

yea rock sucks, i dont know how ppl can blow thru hunderds in a night on base, then do it again the next day. yea its a strong intensely euphoric high, but the crash is horrible and it makes you fiend worse than anything. dope is so much smoother and easier on your body.

all the times ive smoked rock i think, damn why did i smoke this shit, i feel like dookie.
 
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There could be a few reasons why it wasnt what you expected. First off, the obvious one that was already mentioned, maybe you expected too much. Heroin, to me, was a subtle high at first. Its a whole different story once you start IVing massive amounts, then its a freight train to the head type high, but when I first started using, I snorted it and it was just a chill out, watch a movie type drug.

Second, maybe 1/3rd wasnt enough for you. Your friend can be experienced with using dope, but that doesnt mean he has tried really good dope. This could just be shitty dope that seems average to him because he hasnt had much better. Im not saying that is the case. I dont know your friend at all. Its just something to consider. Its also why I dont trust what people say about new dope until I try it for myself.

Third, you probably didnt get as high the second day because you were using consistantly over that span of time. What I mean is, you probably kept redosing, prolonging the original high rather than coming down, taking a break, then dosing again for a new high. Redosing with heroin tends to not do much, for me at least, except make me more drowsy and nod out more. That does NOT mean it makes me FEEL higher, because it doesnt. It just makes me a lot more tired.

Next time start out with a little bit more. Maybe half to three quarters of a bag. Dont redose. If you dont get high, ride out what effects you do feel until youre back to baseline, then up the dose a little bit next time you do try to get high.
 
Funny because I also tried heroin for the first time last weekend, I smoked it with a friend who is fairly experienced with it.

It made me feel nauseous, gave me a headache, and overall I just didnt really enjoy it all... the next day I felt like shit and was at the point of almost throwing up... I dont think I will ever try it again all it did for me was make me feel relaxed but it wasn't worth the horrible taste or bad side effects...

The drug definitely didn't meet my standards of what I thought it would be like.. to each their own though.
 
i knew before i opened this thread that the OP would say he sniffed it and didnt shoot it, thats the only reason this thread exists.
 
IForgett said:
There could be a few reasons why it wasnt what you expected. First off, the obvious one that was already mentioned, maybe you expected too much. Heroin, to me, was a subtle high at first. Its a whole different story once you start IVing massive amounts, then its a freight train to the head type high, but when I first started using, I snorted it and it was just a chill out, watch a movie type drug.

Second, maybe 1/3rd wasnt enough for you. Your friend can be experienced with using dope, but that doesnt mean he has tried really good dope. This could just be shitty dope that seems average to him because he hasnt had much better. Im not saying that is the case. I dont know your friend at all. Its just something to consider. Its also why I dont trust what people say about new dope until I try it for myself.

Third, you probably didnt get as high the second day because you were using consistantly over that span of time. What I mean is, you probably kept redosing, prolonging the original high rather than coming down, taking a break, then dosing again for a new high. Redosing with heroin tends to not do much, for me at least, except make me more drowsy and nod out more. That does NOT mean it makes me FEEL higher, because it doesnt. It just makes me a lot more tired.

I figured it would be a really different experience if I had IV'd it. I did enjoy it alot (as I enjoy oxy alot). I really wanted to try if for a while and finally got the oppertunity. I would still make the switch to that from Oxy if I could find a steady connect because it's so much cheaper. The only reason why I don't use Oxy more frequently is because I can't really afford to right now (I typically use about 30-80mg 4 nights a week) (it all depends on what I can get a hold of) but anyway I understand what you said about redosing. I did feel really good the first night, and I felt really good the whole second day and the third day as well but I agree with you, perhaps I should have just dosed and then waited until I came down to redose. whenever I get Oxy I usually dont have too much extra on hand and blow it all once I get it. So if I get a 30mg roxy or a 40mg OC I'll blow it all at one time. The only time I'll redose with oxy is if I've got an 80mg pill, and then I'll do half and then half again a little later. Next time I get some H I'll do some and then set it aside so I don't just keep doing more haha.

You also made a good point about my friend. He used to use alot but hadn't done dope in over a year prior to us getting some last week. He said he used to get stuff that was alot better than what we got this time, and that he was kinda disappointed that it wasn't better.
 
Chemethist said:
i knew before i opened this thread that the OP would say he sniffed it and didnt shoot it, thats the only reason this thread exists.

I wanted to IV it but couldn't get a hold of any syringes. There's always next time.
 
^ to be honest, you dont need to IV it. From the looks of it, you have a relatively low tolerance, you enjoy how you feel from what you do, and you dont use on a daily basis. There is really no need to IV it. Maybe, MAYBE, when and if your tolerance gets so high that getting high becomes way too expensive, you start using on a daily basis, and your normal dose just doesnt cut it anymore, then MAYBE consider IVing it. Try harder instead to just cut back or quit all-together.

Im saying this from experience bro. If I could go back and choose NOT to IV heroin, I would. It has been the most life altering decision I have made in my short 21 years in this world. Its not the case for everyone, but it is really really really hard to pick a needle up ONE TIME, and not do it again the next day. And then the next day. and the next. Please, dont resort to it until its the absolute, final, no buts about it option you have. Please.

If you already have IVed in the past, then disregard this, and forgive me for sounding stupid by writing that.
 
Chemethist said:
i knew before i opened this thread that the OP would say he sniffed it and didnt shoot it, thats the only reason this thread exists.

dont know about that, i IVed heroin my first time with little other opiate experience and i was very disappointed.
 
^ Ok, that's good advice. I guess it's really easy to think that I wouldn't get hooked on it, and that it wouldn't be a big deal since I haven't done it yet. It's probably a whole different thing once I were to actually do it.
 
^ totally and completely different. Its real easy to say youre just going to IV once and not do it again, but its fucking hard to do. But really, if IVing it is something you have truly thought hard about doing and have your mind set on doing it, dont NOT do it because of what I or someone else said here. Who knows, maybe you could control yourself better than I could, you probably could, but just weigh the potential risks against the benefits before you do. As much as I enjoy the discussion of suboxone in some of the other threads, Id hate to see you, or anyone else new for that matter, joining in on them because you decided to start IVing instead of snorting heroin. Be careful man.
 
well ok the disappointment was from having WAY too high of expectations. even though it wsn't all i had hoped it would be, i did end up doing h the next day, and the next..and so on, straight up until the day i was arrested...on the other hand i was intentionally trying to get addicted to heroin but i can't deny the insidious addictiveness of it
 
Kastr0 said:
Funny because I also tried heroin for the first time last weekend, I smoked it with a friend who is fairly experienced with it.

It made me feel nauseous, gave me a headache, and overall I just didnt really enjoy it all... the next day I felt like shit and was at the point of almost throwing up... I dont think I will ever try it again all it did for me was make me feel relaxed but it wasn't worth the horrible taste or bad side effects...

The drug definitely didn't meet my standards of what I thought it would be like.. to each their own though.
This is very much like my first experience IVing heroin, though along with the nausea and such I had incredible euphoria. Of course I couldn't move or I would puke and the next day I was sick for hours......but that didn't stop me from continuing to use it. :\
 
nile420 said:
heroin is a dead end, don't ever try it.

Oh hey Nancy, I was sorry to hear about Ron... how ya holdin' up?

Seriously though, this is the kind of "advice" that is counterproductive; for a lot of people (including me!) part of the attraction of drugs is precisely that we know society doesn't approve. When I see these anti-meth campaigns that say "Not Even Once!", I think, shit, that'd make me want to try it once just to spite the fuckers. If I hadn't tried it already and not liked it. :p

I'm not saying that using heroin is a great idea. For many people, it's a really bad idea. I've advised people not to do it in other threads. But it's a question of personal circumstances, not platitudes and knee-jerk condemnation.
 
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