Dirtiest sexual fantasies?

[Wilson Wilson]

No. You should already know what’s morally right or wrong.
your the one down the rabbit hole lol
U don’t respect women??? That’s prob ur moms fault

Okay so if I see no moral issue watching porn, there's no problem?

Or are you actually saying that I only know what's right or wrong as long as my moral code happens to be the same as yours?

This white knighting shit gets pathetic mate, truth be told I barely watch porn, my girlfriend watches more than me and she watches more brutal shit than I do. You wanna go tell her how she "doesn't respect women" she'd laugh in your face.

 

[Soso78]

Okay so if I see no moral issue watching porn, there's no problem?

Or are you actually saying that I only know what's right or wrong as long as my moral code happens to be the same as yours?

This white knighting shit gets pathetic mate, truth be told I barely watch porn, my girlfriend watches more than me and she watches more brutal shit than I do. You wanna go tell her how she "doesn't respect women" she'd laugh in your face.

Ye sound mate.... if she getting filmed choking on dick or gettin slapped around its fine because ur girl watches it.
Each man has his own morals as does each woman.

 

[Wilson Wilson]

Ye sound mate.... if she getting filmed choking on dick or gettin slapped around its fine because ur girl watches it.
Each man has his own morals as does each woman.

Alright so going off your own logic: each man and woman has their own morals, so what sense is there in judging the personal actions of other people?

If we assume what you see in porn is in fact, by and large, consensual, where is the moral issue? If it makes you feel bad to watch it, no one is forcing you to.

What I don't get is this logic:

• Each individual has their own moral code, however;
• If an individual uses the freedom afforded by this very same moral subjectivism to do things I don't like, I judge them as inherently bad and assume they must be mentally ill or being exploited

Do you understand how those are fundamentally contradictory views?

And mate I've done shit in real life that's "worse" than most of the shit you see on Pornhub, the girl is the one who asked for it 100% of the time and I don't feel bad at all because why would I?

I don't like these puritanical moral attitudes though, makes you sound like one of those fundamentalist Christians from the US.

I especially don't like this idea that mentally ill people cannot think for themselves.

 

[Soso78]

those things u do worse than pornhub, is that with ur partner?

 

[Wilson Wilson]

those things u do worse than pornhub, is that with ur partner?

Mostly yeah. Some were in prior relationships. I've been engaging in BDSM since I was 17. Done all sorts by this point. Always consensual and let me tell you the most fucked up stuff is the stuff that comes from the woman's fantasies in my experience. Can link you some data to back that too.

 

[Wilson Wilson]

Age play is potentially the most taboo of my deviancies.

It's a funny one that because in some ways schoolgirl fantasy/dress up is really vanilla but at the same time if you say to someone that you like to pretend with your girlfriend that she's a schoolgirl young enough to keep wetting her knickers and you're the teacher so you're going to hold her down and hit her whilst you fuck her as punishment then people look at you funny.

I do like doing that.

It is funny to me how taboo this is yet girls call guys daddy all the time, guys call girls baby all the time, and none of that is judged the same way haha.

 

[Soso78]

You sure got the moral highground making statements like that don't you? Sound very respectful of women you do. I hope one day to reach your level of moral righteousness.

It’s ok, just keep abusing the bitch!!! She don’t know any better.

 

[Wilson Wilson]

It’s ok, just keep abusing the bitch!!! She don’t know any better.

She met me at a BDSM club mate she's not some innocent little flower.

The irony of coming into a thread titled "dirtiest sexual fantasies" to judge people for what they're into can you imagine

Someone ain't getting any I reckon

 

[Soso78]

There’s a difference between not gettin any and sexually abusing women lol

 

[Wilson Wilson]

There’s a difference between not gettin any and sexually abusing women lol

Abuse by definition is nonconsensual, you're just throwing around words.

So far all you've done is call my girlfriend a mentally ill ho... and you still acting like you got some moral highground haha.

 

[nuttynutskin]

Yup, I'm sure all those women are perfectly sound mentally and are completely in their own power and at very low risk of exploitation

Agreed... There's some stuff out there that I just don't believe anyone with a sound mind would take part in. I don't think everything has to be vanilla but there's some truly vile stuff out there.

 

[Juniper Bruhmomentius]

I don't think everything has to be vanilla but there's some truly vile stuff out there.

Legit. Ive never really watched anything else than pure domination porn. Nothing else just interests me in the same way.

 

[atara]

The women who do that kind of porn know full well what they're signing up for and aren't being forced by anyone, they have agency like anyone else.

Employers use cognitive biases like loss aversion and the Asch conformity effect to exact compliance. This is a mundane moral failing when it happens in most occupations, but it becomes ethically perilous when it occurs in very stressful jobs like sex work, animal harvesting, some manufacturing/construction careers, etc.

Unfortunately the stigmatization of pornography and sex workers means that municipalities address this problem by restricting pornography rather than implementing viable protections for performers. But I think the question is a valid one, shown by the experiences of women who have reported experiencing abuse while working in the pornography industry.

This Is What it’s Really Like to Work in Porn

Porn veteran Aurora Snow explains how performers promote or, at least, acquiesce to many myths to satisfy production companies and fans.

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[Wilson Wilson]

Employers use cognitive biases like loss aversion and the Asch conformity effect to exact compliance. This is a mundane moral failing when it happens in most occupations, but it becomes ethically perilous when it occurs in very stressful jobs like sex work, animal harvesting, some manufacturing/construction careers, etc.

Unfortunately the stigmatization of pornography and sex workers means that municipalities address this problem by restricting pornography rather than implementing viable protections for performers. But I think the question is a valid one, shown by the experiences of women who have reported experiencing abuse while working in the pornography industry.

I absolutely agree that what we need is less stigmatisation of the sex industry in order for the working environment to be more ethical instead of having it underground and seedy.

Unfortunately, judging by my interactions above, that seems like some way off. Apparently kinky women are mentally ill whores who got molested as kids according to Soso78 and ageingpartyfiend. Hard to destigmatise the profession with attitudes like that being so prevalent.

 

[Soso78]

I absolutely agree that what we need is less stigmatisation of the sex industry in order for the working environment to be more ethical instead of having it underground and seedy.

Unfortunately, judging by my interactions above, that seems like some way off. Apparently kinky women are mentally ill whores who got molested as kids according to Soso78 and ageingpartyfiend. Hard to destigmatise the profession with attitudes like that being so prevalent.

I’m not talking about porn though am I. I’m talking about abusive and degrading porn. I think that should be underground and it is seedy,

 

[Wilson Wilson]

I’m not talking about porn though am I. I’m talking about abusive and degrading porn. I think that should be underground and it is seedy,

So you're basically saying any woman who is in porn that's too kinky for your personal tastes deserves to have no protections if she's mistreated?

Sounds about right coming from you.

 

[Soso78]

So you're basically saying any woman who is in porn that's too kinky for your personal tastes deserves to have no protections if she's mistreated?

Sounds about right coming from you.

No I’m not. I’m saying I think that shit shouldn’t be normalised.

 

[Wilson Wilson]

No I’m not. I’m saying I think that shit shouldn’t be normalised.

But this is like drugs ain't it? People will say drugs should stay illegal otherwise it encourages use. Besides the fact it's not true, the simple reality is drugs exist whether people like it or not. Best thing we can do is limit the criminal element.

Sex has an even stronger argument along those lines as I'm sure you'll agree. On a primal level it's the most basic thing we desire. Plenty of people are into kinky shit you probably disapprove of. But you said yourself, every man and woman has their own moral code. So why should others be judged by yours?

Best way to avoid actual harm coming to people in these things is to have it as regulated and legitimate as possible, because either way people are gonna be into kinky shit and will wanna watch kinky porn as a result.

I think the way Kink.com does it sets a good example. You watch their videos and they do interviews with the performers before and after. You know they have safe words etc. They should all be like that ideally. If there was more regulation they would be, and if there was less stigma from people like you, the women in that industry would be more likely to speak up when abuse does occur (I mean actual abuse here, not just sex acts your gran disapproves of).

 

[Soso78]

But this is like drugs ain't it? People will say drugs should stay illegal otherwise it encourages use. Besides the fact it's not true, the simple reality is drugs exist whether people like it or not. Best thing we can do is limit the criminal element.

Sex has an even stronger argument along those lines as I'm sure you'll agree. On a primal level it's the most basic thing we desire. Plenty of people are into kinky shit you probably disapprove of. But you said yourself, every man and woman has their own moral code. So why should others be judged by yours?

Best way to avoid actual harm coming to people in these things is to have it as regulated and legitimate as possible, because either way people are gonna be into kinky shit and will wanna watch kinky porn as a result.

I think the way Kink.com does it sets a good example. You watch their videos and they do interviews with the performers before and after. You know they have safe words etc. They should all be like that ideally. If there was more regulation they would be, and if there was less stigma from people like you, the women in that industry would be more likely to speak up when abuse does occur (I mean actual abuse here, not just sex acts your gran disapproves of).

I judge anyone I want.
There’s paedophile vids of kids getting abused too but it don’t mean we should accept it happens and try to make it safer for the kids getting abused.
u watched degrading and abusive porn and now u abuse ur gf. It’s a cycle of abuse.
Do u think some of these girls being abused are vulnerable and being exploited?

 

[atara]

I’m not talking about porn though am I. I’m talking about abusive and degrading porn. I think that should be underground and it is seedy,

The fact that you don't like the content of a film is a pretty terrible reason to support a system that puts performers at risk. If people want warning labels, dedicated websites, or something else that allows the industry to exist under legitimate regulations, that can be considered. The current system is to push pornography production into the most permissive jurisdictions and ignore the abuse because it's happening far away.

But really the most effective method in my opinion would be better sex education in public schools.

u watched degrading and abusive porn and now u abuse ur gf. It’s a cycle of abuse.

For the hundred millionth time, porn is not the sole or primary cause of abnormal sexual interests. My own experiences give me all of the evidence I need to say that, and also the history of "domination play" predates widespread pornography. Banning porn will not make people like me go away, because porn didn't make me how I am.