Diphenhydramine use and abuse

[CannabisCanuck]

So i recently joined this forum and am not 100% of the rules yet, so if this is in the wrong place i hereby apologize

Aaaaanyways im here to ask if anyone else here has had any experience using diphenhydramine (benadryl) to "trip" or otherwise become delirious.

Earlier this year i went on somewhat of a "bing" on this stuff doing it everynight, than being wasted the next day until about 9 or 10 at night, and going "hmmm im bored, and could use a free display of distortions" than popping another 17-19 of the little pink basterds.

So that went on for about a week straight, until i realised that i looked like a freaky junkie to all my friends where it had to stop, or at least slow down because i continued to use it maaybe 2 or 3 times a month until about 3 months ago.
the effects usually produced by doing this would be weakness, my heart would be beating like a madman, tremors, and hallucinations ranging from waves of light zipping across my walls to things moving in the wind (indoors) to seeing insects all over my wall and skin and watching imaginary people walk into my room and sometimes talk to me

Now about 3 months later im getting concerned because iv noticed that walls still have static / snow in them and only recently i started to see the little waves of light appearing and dissapearing and i have afterimages really bad ( i would get an afterimage of a black speaker on a white wall if i just glance at the speaker.) If i focus on something thats a couple feet away from me i can see it wiggling / breathing and im concerned that its going to get worse.
I have also done DXM a couple of times, MDMA 3 times, LSD once and shrooms twice,, and i smoke weed most every day spare a few... should i be concerned?

 

[bornofemmure]

i think you're trolling, but for the sake of harm reduction i will answer anyway.

you should be very concerned. stop taking benadryl, you're risking seriously damaging your brain. why do you always want to be delirious anyway? how can you do that and function in normal life? I can't believe you're even doing benadryl when you've done mdma and acid and shrooms. If you need a drug to do frequently, stick with weed, but in your case you really should abstain from all drugs for awhile

 

[abore]

I don't think he's trolling. Sadly a lot of people abuse that stuff, myself included ((probably only twice.. it feels pretty shitty even though its interesting)) when I was a young'n and learned that I could get high off of an OTC other than DXM.

Anyway, it sounds like what you're experiencing is HPPD. This is pretty common especially with people who have abused psychedelics (or in this case a deliriant) too regularly.

If I were to give a shot into the wind, I'd have to say that Diphenhydramine & analogs have an extremely higher brain and psychologically damaging potential than ketamine.. Not to mention the sexy perma-HPPD anticholinergenics tend to leave behind

Above is a quote from the Big and Dandy Diphenhydramine thread.

For the most part, the HPPD is only as big of a deal as you make it. Some people find that they enjoy the distortions and serve to make class a little more interesting.. Other people will find it annoying or even panic inducing.

This is my personal opinion, but I would really recommend not getting high off of diphendydramine. If you haven't stopped yet, you should. There are much better, safer, and less shitty feeling intoxicants out there.

HPPD - http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=235230
Diphenhydramine - http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=160404&page=2 ((lots of info in this one about this stuff and the visual problems you're talking about))

 

[CannabisCanuck]

kk well thank you both for the reply, and no i wasnt trolling :S but i have stopped using diphs for a good time now and i dont plan on going back because of the obvious consiquences to my mental and physical health, and the hppd doesnt really bother me, the only time it gets to me is when i see a bug and i wonder whether its "actually" there, but honestly fuck bugs ill just squish em :D
and i didnt know the dangers i was putting myself up against using them that often, i was just being young and stupid, and have since than changed my lifestyle for the better.
im going to check out the above threads because i didnt see them before and thanks to you both

the acid shrooms, and MDMA were all after the bennys, because they only became available then

 

[Legerity]

Good decision to stay away from that stuff. I've never tried high doses of it nor would I want to, only heard terrible things about it. Sounds like you figured it out for yourself though

 

[sarcophagus.heels]

Yeah, some years ago when I had zero access to other drugs but was desperate for a high, I used high doses of benadryl. Diphenhydramine is strange stuff - I wouldn't call it pleasant, but the delirium was interesting enough that I continued to use it for some time. But that shit has the potential to really fuck you up. Glad you decided to avoid the stuff =)