fryingsquirrel
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Why not use your magic mod stick to send there then?
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Dimethocaine
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MurphyClox
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How do you think would anybody in here be able to answer that? How? There simply is no answer whatsoever to your question! You have a tan powder with entirely unknown nature - congratulations!Hi dudes, i ordered for diméthocaine and received a tan light powder.
Is dmc must not be white? what do you think it is?
The free base most probably, any salt rather not.
Peace! - Murphy
sekio
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Depending on trace impurities, dimethocaine can be any colour of the rainbow. If it was 100% pure it would be white I expect. Get it tested if you're really worried.
ebola?
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As part of reality, it is already completely realistic.
ebola
negrogesic
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I was able to make a rather smooth smoking base using the crude baking soda method. The color of the 'rocks' are a like greenish-yellow, and unlike smoking the salt, the base smoked pretty cleanly, and had significant but transient oral local anesthesia. The high is reminiscent of crack-cocaine, with a immediate body high, dizziness, a sensation that one is 'floating', and some modest euphoria. It still does not hold a candle to crack-cocaine, and while it has a similar (albeit much weaker) body high, but not the overwhelming euphoria that one experiences with crack-cocaine. The CNS stimulation is rather weak, but then again, a big hit of crack-cocaine can make one feel drowsy. The profound 'mood-alternating' properties of crack cocaine is heavily dependent on its almost instantaneous 5-HT reuptake inhibition, and from my subjective evaluation of dimethocaine freebase smoke, I sensed very little 5-HT activity, with the effects being predominantly dopamine and nor epinephrine mediated.
So yes, it gets you high, but it doesn't have the euphoric mood alteration properties of crack-cocaine. So basically, it makes you chase for a high that is simply not inherent in dimethocaine. If you want to feel dizzy and spacey for 10 minutes, go ahead, but to me, the compound is basically of very limited recreational value. It is not nearly as powerful and addictive as MDPV, which is a undisputedly power drug in its own right. I do not see dimethocaine being a RC that will 'catch on' like MDPV. People will buy it maybe a few times, and realize it is not worth it. Yes, a psychoactive freebase can be easily made from dimethocaine, but I very much doubt that it will become an RC 'crack' epidemic. There are other legal RC's that actually do have the potential for crack-like epidemic use, but I will not mention these compounds by name (I do not want these compounds to become available at headshops).
There is an RC being sold in a black package with some name like 'eight-ball'. It is NOT MDPV, it is dimethocaine hcl, and white rather pure, the drug is simply not worth it......
negrogesic
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I was able to make a rather smooth smoking base using the crude baking soda method. The color of the 'rocks' are a like greenish-yellow, and unlike smoking the salt, the base smoked pretty cleanly, and had significant but transient oral local anesthesia. The high is reminiscent of crack-cocaine, with a immediate body high, dizziness, a sensation that one is 'floating', and some modest euphoria. It still does not hold a candle to crack-cocaine, and while it has a similar (albeit much weaker) body high, but not the overwhelming euphoria that one experiences with crack-cocaine. The CNS stimulation is rather weak, but then again, a big hit of crack-cocaine can make one feel drowsy. The profound 'mood-alternating' properties of crack cocaine is heavily dependent on its almost instantaneous 5-HT reuptake inhibition, and from my subjective evaluation of dimethocaine freebase smoke, I sensed very little 5-HT activity, with the effects being predominantly dopamine and nor epinephrine mediated.
So yes, it gets you high, but it doesn't have the euphoric mood alteration properties of crack-cocaine. So basically, it makes you chase for a high that is simply not inherent in dimethocaine. If you want to feel dizzy and spacey for 10 minutes, go ahead, but to me, the compound is basically of very limited recreational value. It is not nearly as powerful and addictive as MDPV, which is a undisputedly power drug in its own right. I do not see dimethocaine being a RC that will 'catch on' like MDPV. People will buy it maybe a few times, and realize it is not worth it. Yes, a psychoactive freebase can be easily made from dimethocaine, but I very much doubt that it will become an RC 'crack' epidemic. There are other legal RC's that actually do have the potential for crack-like epidemic use, but I will not mention these compounds by name (I do not want these compounds to become available at headshops).
There is an RC being sold in a black package with some name like 'eight-ball'. It is NOT MDPV, it is dimethocaine hcl, and white rather pure, the drug is simply not worth it......
ebola?
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No offense, but I'm a little skeptical of some of your inferences of 5ht effect-profiles from the character of experiences. I'll admit that 5ht affinity must have something to do with coke's unique effects, but extension to things like high dose mdpv seem dubious. Hell, I wonder whether 5ht efflux really plays that much of a role in meth's case, as selectivity for DA, strength, and duration explain a greater proportion of meth's unique feel.
For example, acutely dosed SSRIs tend not to impart of any of the attributes you claim 5ht reuptake inhibition to accord coke or high dose mdpv. Now, I'm sure that speed of onset, binding affinity, and severity of 5ht blockade matter a lot, but the gulf between this '5ht reuptake inhibition feel' of stimulants and that of SSRIs is greater than the gulf between those long time-course RTI compounds and more typical DARIs.
But I don't know the story either...
ebolaAs part of reality, it is already completely realistic.
ebola
YES! lol
negrogesic
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No offense, but I'm a little skeptical of some of your inferences of 5ht effect-profiles from the character of experiences. I'll admit that 5ht affinity must have something to do with coke's unique effects, but extension to things like high dose mdpv seem dubious. Hell, I wonder whether 5ht efflux really plays that much of a role in meth's case, as selectivity for DA, strength, and duration explain a greater proportion of meth's unique feel.
For example, acutely dosed SSRIs tend not to impart of any of the attributes you claim 5ht reuptake inhibition to accord coke or high dose mdpv. Now, I'm sure that speed of onset, binding affinity, and severity of 5ht blockade matter a lot, but the gulf between this '5ht reuptake inhibition feel' of stimulants and that of SSRIs is greater than the gulf between those long time-course RTI compounds and more typical DARIs.
But I don't know the story either...
ebola
Yes, my SERTometer isn't always right, again, these are subjective experiences.
However.........the speed of onset of a SERT ligand does have a major impact on how the compound is perceived. Beyond binding coefficients elements such as Tmax, Cmax/min, elements of AUC etc, etc, are extremely relevant.
This not being just some opinion of mine; the value of these metrics as determinants of subjective effects are well-documented, and cocaine particularly has been studied extensively in this regard.
And again, sure, my SERTometer may not always be right, but the human body is a rather sensitive analytic-diagnostic tool.......but yes, it takes "tuning" to use this inherently subjective instrument with as much objectivity as possible.....(yes, shaky logic, I know).......
But......as you know, fringe pharmacologists/med-chemists are know to utilize such equipment and make deductions accordingly.....i think this thread would help ALOT more people if it were in the other drugs section with all the other RC Dandy threads. im interested in this as well, and price is lower with most reputable vendors these days. anyone care to update on their experiences and input on wether this one is worth checking out?? thanksss : )
