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Opioids Dilaudid, some questions

marienbad

marienbad

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I've tried dilaudid/hydromorphone, snorted, several times in doses of 4-8mg and I found it extremely effective. It may not have been as overpowering as snorting opana or whatever, but the high was euphoric and similar to heroin. I also found that the high lasted longer than I had heard it did. There was a strong high for maybe 2 hours and then a nice buzz for 1-2 more hours after that, steadily decreasing. So it's definitely short-acting compared to most opiates but I for one find it longer acting than, say, hydrocodone.

Anyway, onto the main questions. I'm considering IV'ing dilaudid, the M4's, and I would like some general info and tips on how to be safe. I don't want to be shooting up fillers and all that stuff. But also, would just 1mg be a good enough dose considering I have basically no tolerance right now? (only use opiates on an infrequent basis). Also, is it possible that the high from snorting actually lasts longer than the high from IV'ing? Because from what I've read everyone says how the immediate rush from shooting is amazing, but after that there's only an extremely short lived, mild high. I find this hard to believe if the user has very little to no tolerance, but maybe I'm wrong.
 
I wouldn't try the IV route. Dilaudid's fine the way you're doing it. I have heard plugging provides a good rush too.
The safest thing is saving your veins in my opinion.
 
marienbad said:
.. and I found it extremely effective.
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2 threads (out of many) that could help, if you're insistent on IV:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/647606-How-quot-clean-quot-are-micron-filtered-pills-for-IV-use
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/481622-Micron-Filtering-Mega-Thread-and-FAQ

marienbad said:
I don't want to be shooting up fillers and all that stuff.
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don't IV pills..that's ^^^ mostly what they're made out of.

T. Calderone said:
I wouldn't try the IV route. Dilaudid's fine the way you're doing it. I have heard plugging provides a good rush too.
The safest thing is saving your veins in my opinion.
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+1
 
definetly plug dilaudid. ive eaten them before (5 years ago when i didnt no much about it or any opiate for that matter). but back in december when i finally came across them and i plugged 6 mgs with a somewhat low tolerance (can get high off 15-20 mgs of oxy but redose every 3 hours or so. was also on a binge that whole weekend) and took a mg of ativan on top of that and i was GONE. was nodding at work and shit and lost my job 2 days later cuz i wouldnt stop eating benzos and opiates. anyways, plug those bad boys and you will not be dissappointed
the roa's for that goes IV>plugging>sniffing>eating.
 
I found that railing them is a GREAT euphoric high but takes insane amounts (14-18mg) but I obviously have a higher tolerance than you. Snorting would also be the safest (other than eating them which is useless). I iv'd them as well and it is a great rush (8mg) and I basically passed out for a couple minutes. I had fixed 2mg kpin in the mix and felt on top of the world, one of my best highs ever. Just filter them through a cotton, sterilize everything, and don't get addicted...

Never plugged them but I thought I would offer my experience. Good luck on whatever you do man
 
If snorting works well for you, I don't think the increased bioavailability from shooting will be worth it to you, considering the risks of shootings pills and how fast your tolerance will shoot up.

Just my 2c.
 
Like others have said I'd stick to snorting them if I were you, adding the needle is just going to lead to a lot of problems in the long run. If you do decide not to heed that advice you should read the two threads tokenname linked to and the IV megathread in this forum. DO NOT use cotton for a filter as a lot of bad things will go straight through, I am not very familiar with IV use but I do know there are micron and wheel filters that you can get (often for free) that will catch _most_ of the bad things.

Remember, when you shoot up everything going in will eventually find its way to your heart, lungs, organs...everywhere. There are a lot of things in pills for filler that you DO NOT want floating around in your veins. So please take the time to read everything you can about the IV ROA and make sure you have all the proper equipment on hand before you consider using the drug like that.

Also.....every IV user I know has told me they wished they wouldn't have taken that first shot. Doesn't matter what their DOC was...once you get on the needle it is really hard to ween yourself off of it. Your tolerance will sky rocket and other routes of administration will stop working as well as they used to. You'll feel like you're "wasting the drug" by not using the needle because you know you're getting 100% BA through that ROA. IV use also comes with a ton of health complications...just search around the forum here a lot of people have ended up in the ER because they were not careful or injected something they shouldn't have.

Be safe whatever path you choose. Needles freak me out so I haven't tried the IV ROA yet, and doubt I ever will outside of a hospital setting. But the thought has crossed my mind in the past. I hope you make the same choice I did and stay away from the needle. :)

One more thing before I go: If you haven't yet you should try the plugging ROA. It isn't an instant "rush" but there is a "delayed rush" of sorts. A lot of opiates have a high BA is you plug them. I don't really plug anything other than morphine (because the oral BA is horrible) but I have tried it with oxycodone and it was about the same as taking it orally (quicker on-set but the peak was about the same).

Stay safe :D
 
Firstly, IVing Dilaudid (hydromorphone) can cause damage to your lungs and heart over time. However, snorting it can also cause similar damage -it is just less likely....but still the risk is there (many people do not know that insufflating pills for long periods of time can lead to aspiration of pill fillers into the lungs which can wreak havoc).

Having said that, I used to IV Dilaudid all the time and I loved it! I usually shot about 8mg at one time. I have shot it with cold water and I have also cooked it.....both work fine. It is not very safe or smart BUT it give you that RUSH that lasts about a minute. You cannot and will not obtain that rush from merely snorting the pills.

PS- Though the rush off of IVing 8 or more mgs of hydromorphone is satifactory, opana gives a much better rush if you can get your hands on the instant release ones. The high off of dilaudid wears off rather quickly with me, where as an opana high does last a little longer (about 1 or 2 hours longer). But everyone is different and therefore responds differently to substances.
 
Interestingly enough, Dilauded insufflated did next to nothing for me, even when I hadn't much of an opiate tolerance.

I was prescribed 60 4mg hydromorphone pills a couple years ago to help me sleep when I was initially seeking treatment for my injury. This was along with like 20-30mgs of Oxycodone throughout the day (so, almost no tolerance). I was stumbling over myself on the way to the pharmacy I was so excited.

I can remember crushing 8mg of hydromorphone, snorting, and feeling nothing but heavy sedation. No euphoria whatsoever. Just sedated. In fact I snorted that whole bottle because I knew the oral BA was shit (why are these even prescribed in pill form? Makes little sense and seems like an invitation to abuse to anyone that understands hydromorphone), and I really got so little out of it recreationally.

Just shows how different people prefer different opiates.

Also OP - I really wouldn't IV pills. People do it, doesn't mean it's smart.
 
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If you must give it a try crush put in your spoon bout 60cents of sterile H2O and mix real well the pull through filter and then micro filter to go safe route then your ready to go...but honestly if you haven't done this before its not the time to start cause dilaudid is very very very hard to put down because you will like them then two days later and no more meds and 50 different holes in your arm is exactly what will happen that is my exact situation that's how I stared and it was love and hate at first prick.
 
marienbad said:
I've tried dilaudid/hydromorphone, snorted, several times in doses of 4-8mg and I found it extremely effective. It may not have been as overpowering as snorting opana or whatever, but the high was euphoric and similar to heroin. I also found that the high lasted longer than I had heard it did. There was a strong high for maybe 2 hours and then a nice buzz for 1-2 more hours after that, steadily decreasing. So it's definitely short-acting compared to most opiates but I for one find it longer acting than, say, hydrocodone.

Anyway, onto the main questions. I'm considering IV'ing dilaudid, the M4's, and I would like some general info and tips on how to be safe. I don't want to be shooting up fillers and all that stuff. But also, would just 1mg be a good enough dose considering I have basically no tolerance right now? (only use opiates on an infrequent basis). Also, is it possible that the high from snorting actually lasts longer than the high from IV'ing? Because from what I've read everyone says how the immediate rush from shooting is amazing, but after that there's only an extremely short lived, mild high. I find this hard to believe if the user has very little to no tolerance, but maybe I'm wrong.
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youre talking to someone who spent the better part of 5 years IVing dilaudid everyday, without breaks or fail and im here to tell you you dont want to do that.


dilaudid is a lot different than most opiates. its short lasting. the withdrawal from dilaudid is bad...BAD...and the bad part is that after a shot, if you have a righteous habit you will be sick in a short 3 hours IF THAT. while the withdrawal is the shortest of any opiate i have experienced it much more cruel as well.


if i had a choice i never would have done it
 
Thanks a lot for the very thorough advice everyone. I didn't end up shooting it. I don't think I'm going to. Thinking about it more, shooting pills is just way too dangerous; I don't want to have particulate matter in my veins and possibly causing irreversible damage to my heart or lungs or wherever else. I've never shot anything before and I'm not gonna start with something as risky as a dilaudid tablet. Heroin, maybe, because that's actually comparatively safe, but not pills. So thanks again for the HR advice, this forum is a great tool sometimes to help one really put things in perspective and realize some things are simply not worth the risk.

In fact, what I did was snorted about 2mg and ended up high as hell and even a little nauseous and sweaty for a bit. I got the same level of effects from about 8mg snorted back last summer! So it kind of took me by surprise, because even though I haven't used an opiate in a couple weeks, last month I was taking vicodin every day and like doing 2 bags of high quality heroin in one night. But for now snorting the dilaudid is more than enough to satisfy me.

So, if I can in turn offer some advice to others re: dilaudid, it would be not to underestimate this drug. I know many feel it's worthless to do unless IV'd, but I think a lot of these people (not all) are just saying this because they have a huge tolerance and naturally snorting it wouldn't do shit for them anymore. Or, surely, there ARE some people who just for whatever reason can't get off on dilaudid when snorted; I have no idea why, but it seems to be true. In fact, though, I would venture to say that for most people, especially of course those with low or no opiate tolerance, snorted dilaudid is extremely powerful. Whether the BA when snorted is "only" 55% or whatever, it doesn't matter: this is a very strong opiate and it should be treated as such.

Happy nodding.
 
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