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different psilocybin experience after ayahuasca ?

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Has anyone noticed any differences in their mushroom trips after they've drank ayahuasca? Are they more intense? Deeper? Less interesting?

I should clarify that I'm not asking about combining the two, but rather what effect the ayahuasca experience has on mushroom trips long term.
 
No difference in my experience, and I doubt it would make any difference in yours.

Ayahausca, or other forms of oral DMT is really not all that different from a mushroom trip or some other 4-sub-tryptamines. Okay, it is different, but not drastically so, and it's not likely to have a greater long-term affect on you than a memorable and powerful trip on mushrooms, LSD, mescaline, and the like.

Why do you ask?
 
I think it could have an affect on the experience. I find that your memory of previous trips affects your current ones - if you have a particular glowing experience with ayahuasca, the wonderful feelings experienced during your trip may carry over into trips of similar tryptamines like the 4-substituted tryptamines, including Psilocybin and Psilocin. The same could be true for bad experiences. All of that is mostly psychological though.
 
I had done mushrooms many times in my life.
Then I smoked some DMT and had my first real breakthrough.
Afterwards I had my first mushroom ego death. It was very intense... visuals I can't fully describe. I was begging for love.. curled up in a fetal position on the floor scared shitless. It was a great and meaningful experience. It taught me how much love is necessary and how much people don't really care about each other etc etc etc...
That never happened with mushrooms many times before the DMT. Only after.

I believe, it's possible, that DMT has changed what I experience on mushrooms in mid doses of 2-3 grams..
depending on the strength of the mushrooms.

I'm scared of DMT.. I think it's a bit too much for me. Still haven't gone back fully since 2010 when I had the first few experiences. Not afraid to admit it. That stuff kicks your ass.
 
My trips have been less visual, and much more introspective since drinking ayahuasca- which i've participated in a single ceremony with. The trips seem conjure up a metaphysical progress report ! I've heard from a couple others that their visuals during mushroom trips had become way more intense after ayahuasca. That sadly hasn't been the case with me. Part of me tries to boil this down in a reductionist sense. I've read that ayahuasca up-regulates some 5HT receptors.

Most importantly, I've noticed that the medicines continue to work within me, long after the trip is "over."
 
^ Well what was the nature of your Ayahuasca experience though? I would say it's very likely the two could affect each other.

I've noticed since the one time I smoked DMT and it actually whooped my ass, my acid trips have been very different, but that's because the DMT trip conjured up a lot of imagery from a really horrific LSD trip I had once in a very full on way.
I'm honestly still coming to terms with the combination of these many experiences but I'm getting there.

But yeah my point is the nature of ALL my trips have been very different since I brought DMT into the picture.
DMT can change people. I've seen it happen to others very noticeably, and it has definitely changed my way of thinking, so it makes sense it would change the way I perceive the psychedelic experience.
 
I noticed that after smoking DMT, when I would take mushrooms I would get some of the feelings I had on DMT which I had not had on mushrooms prior to smoking DMT. I find also that DMT and mushrooms feel identical to me. I am not saying they are identical but they are so similar that given the wide variance in feelings psychedelics are capable of producing, I dont see how I could possibly tell the difference between them. Now LSD on the other hand, feels completely different from mushrooms and DMT. I believe the latter are infinitely better though.
 
That's odd to me I suppose.
When I get my ass kicked on shrooms I like it.
When I get my ass kicked on DMT it's scary. lol

I don't find them exactly the same at all.

When I come back from breakthrough land the DMT tends to feel like shrooms...

Who knows what the hell is going on in my head. :)
 
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