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Differences between 4-HO MiPT and 5-MeO MiPT?

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Just wondering what some of the qualitative differences are between the two from people who've experienced both. I know that 5-MeO MiPT is active at smaller doses, but I couldn't find any direct comparisons between the two in terms of effects.
 
They both had a terrible, stimulating body load for me. That's about where the similarity ended, though :P
 
I believe that if you refer to the Big & Dandy 4-HO-MiPT thread you will see that such body load is quite unusual. In fact as far aw I'm aware all 4-HO tryptamines as extraordinarily light on the body.

As far as generalizations go, 5-MeO tryptamines tend to carry an impact indeed. And that was also the case for me with 5-MeO-MiPT. I found it to be nothing similar to 4-HO-MiPT just like I find 5-MeO-DMT to be different from mushrooms and DMT and 5-MeO-DiPT is different from 4-HO-DiPT.

I have not tried MiPT or DiPT although I posess both.

Anyway I am interested to hear from others if they found any similarities between the -MiPT analogues.
 
I've read that they both have 'erotic' qualities but have gotten mixed reports on the visual aspects. They're both somewhat stimulating too no?
 
I have tried both.

5MeO @ 3-12mg
4HO @ 8 - 25mg

5MeO is a sexual enhancer/enjoy walk in nature-drug. I prefer to dose below 8mg. It's over in 4-5hours
4HO is extremely visual and "universal" for me. 20-25mg is where it shines. This lasts about 6-7hours. Less mg leaves me wanting for a more intense experience.

They're really not so comparable, IMO. 4HOMIPT is more like shrooms, and 5MEO is more like MDxx without the extreme empathy. But thats a very broad generalization.

edit: 5MeO is stimulating as it ives you energy, yes. 4HO is stimulating in the sense that I get "accupuncturelike sensations" while on it, but I do prefer to lie down during 4HO.
 
Imo they are very different, as some already said i find 4-HO-Mipt to be something more similar to a shroom experience, even if it is more 'physical', above 25 mg the bodyload is high, the visuals are stronger and it is a superior music enhancer but mushrooms are more deep,introspective and insightful.
I don't find 4-HO-Mipt to be stimulating, i wouldn't move from my bed in a trip with it, and anyway with this bodyload (not unpleasant) i wouldn't go far :)

With 5-MeO-Mipt there is definitely more stimulation but still not something strong (like LSD for me) that i need to move around, the visuals are far milder as for the bodyload, i find it easier and maybe more fun but less interesting for sure.
It is also an incredible sexual enhancer, there are no problems with erection (unlike most psychedelics) and the orgasm with 5-Meo-Mipt is just WOW! :D
I can't associate 5-MeO-Mipt with other substances i've tried, it has its own and peculiar character.

Both are great substances, depends on what are you searching,they can both give good times.

Anyway my range was 20/33mg for 4-HO-Mipt and 12/15mg for 5-MeO-Mipt

If i had to choose between them i would go with 4-HO-Mipt also because the visual activity is one of the main things i search in a trip and 4-HO-Mipt gives incredible OEVs at the right dose.
 
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i found 4-ho-mipt one of the least visual of the 4-sub trytamines for me, but it's creating a very pleasant and warm head and bodyspace.
5-meo-mipt is pretty sensual and quite visual to me, also as many mentioned sex is fantastic on it. i enjoy moxy-sex way more than on LSD.
i wonder what 4-meo-mipt is an does. still have a sample laying around but never touched it because there is so less info on it.
 
5-meo-mipt for me is stimulating and kinda dirty feeling. At high doses it can get extremely visual and scary but at low doses it feels like a dirty roll with slight visuals and a bit better music enhancement.

4-ho-mipt for me is less visual than mushrooms but muuuch better for music enhancement. I also found 4-ho-mipt to have a wonderful body high reminiscent to MDMA and a giggly euphoria similar to a happy mushroom trip.

Of the two, I'd say 4-ho-mipt is the winner by a wide, wide margin. I had one particularly intense 5-meo-mipt trip where I took 10mg oral and insufflated 10mg, and it was kinda cool but it was freaky as hell too.
 
I am in the process of getting some 4 ho mipt as well as some 5 meo mipt but I am curious if these have the tendencies to produce headaches when on them or coming down. I recently got some 25i that was enjoyable but consistently caused headaches and odd sensations especially noticeable when taking a small dose.

Since then, I have more or less tossed the stash because i dont trust the stuff any more. Could it be the related to the purity of the substance or the chemicals used in the process? Because I am definately sure the headaches were caused from the subsatnce and not dehydration. I want to know if any body else notices this with some of the tryptamines like 5 meo Mipt and 4 ho mipt.
 
^ i also tend to get headaches from PEAs (like NBOMes) and never from tryptamines. my guess it has something to do with vasoconstriction, which PEAs seem to induce more than tryptamines. even tho 5-meo-mipt is also somewhat stimulating i never had headaches on it or afterwards.
 
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