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Diets: Vegetarian, Vegan, Marcobiotic, raw foods, etc.

Apostacious said:
I have recently gone back to a 80% raw vegan diet, meaning that I eat uncooked fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds and seaweed. The other 20% is "comfort food" like cooked lentils, rice, unprocessed soy, etc.
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basically my diet. was raised vegetarian, went vegan at 14, and have been inbetween raw vegan and strict vegetarian since.
 
In my teen years I was addicted to fast food. I ate it at least once a day. When I was about 20 I started doing meth and my health/mental state was very fucked. Soon after I read a peta pamphlet and became vegan. I also pretty much stopped the speed (haven't used it in many years now thank god). Not eating meat 3 times a day made me feel much healthier than I was before. This was despite my still crappy diet of grains, humus, and fake meat.

For the next two years I was vegan and learned a lot about diet and nutrition. I also went from feeling great to feeling less healthy and more hungry. I then added organic type meats and eggs back into my diet and felt full again. Still, probably not enough fiber or thought about my diet.

Now I never buy factory farmed animal products, only local grass ranged and finished beef occasionally. I also get my eggs locally at the farmers market. Any other animal products (except occasional fish) I eat are strictly on a "freegan" basis or very rarely as an ingredient in pastries.

For me, raw food with a little bit of quality meat and eggs is the best. The more veggies, fruit, and greens I can cram into my gut the better. Fiber is key to my health and actually acts as a very potent anti-oxidant. I also take a fairly big supplement dose of vitamins, fish oils, choline, herbs or whatever else catches my fancy.

My new fascination is a "green juice" that my friends make out of kale, celery, burdock, dandelions, and some other stuff. The juice is separated from the fibrous walls so you can ingest way more without all of the bulk. Kale is very high in protein for a leafy green. It is our theory that the green juice has a high concentration of protein and nitrogen. Maybe it is possible that our bodies can take this nitrogen and synthesize its own protein.... Nutrition is a burgeoning field that is far from settled.

So my new projects include growing kale as a protein source. Soon I will have some experimental spirulina bio-reactors running as well. If you don't know about spirulina I would suggest getting into it. Amazing stuff.

In conclusion, you truly are what you eat. If your health or mind is weak, look to your diet and I promise you will find answers.
 
just a side note - meat is not inherently bad for you, it's just bad in relation to how much you have to eat to be full : how much fat, saturated fat, and cholestrol exist in meat.

ice cream is not unhealthy for you, but eating ice cream until you get full is unhealthy.

even arnold schwarzenegger thinks that americans eat way too much meat.
 
Mehm said:
In my teen years I was addicted to fast food. I ate it at least once a day. When I was about 20 I started doing meth and my health/mental state was very fucked. Soon after I read a peta pamphlet and became vegan. I also pretty much stopped the speed (haven't used it in many years now thank god). Not eating meat 3 times a day made me feel much healthier than I was before. This was despite my still crappy diet of grains, humus, and fake meat.

For the next two years I was vegan and learned a lot about diet and nutrition. I also went from feeling great to feeling less healthy and more hungry. I then added organic type meats and eggs back into my diet and felt full again. Still, probably not enough fiber or thought about my diet.

Now I never buy factory farmed animal products, only local grass ranged and finished beef occasionally. I also get my eggs locally at the farmers market. Any other animal products (except occasional fish) I eat are strictly on a "freegan" basis or very rarely as an ingredient in pastries.

For me, raw food with a little bit of quality meat and eggs is the best. The more veggies, fruit, and greens I can cram into my gut the better. Fiber is key to my health and actually acts as a very potent anti-oxidant. I also take a fairly big supplement dose of vitamins, fish oils, choline, herbs or whatever else catches my fancy.

My new fascination is a "green juice" that my friends make out of kale, celery, burdock, dandelions, and some other stuff. The juice is separated from the fibrous walls so you can ingest way more without all of the bulk. Kale is very high in protein for a leafy green. It is our theory that the green juice has a high concentration of protein and nitrogen. Maybe it is possible that our bodies can take this nitrogen and synthesize its own protein.... Nutrition is a burgeoning field that is far from settled.

So my new projects include growing kale as a protein source. Soon I will have some experimental spirulina bio-reactors running as well. If you don't know about spirulina I would suggest getting into it. Amazing stuff.

In conclusion, you truly are what you eat. If your health or mind is weak, look to your diet and I promise you will find answers.
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how do you make the green juice/shake thing?
 
^^in Be Love's own words

WHAT IS LIQUID LOVE GREEN JUICE???
LIQUID LOVE GREEN JUICE IS a FRESH SQUEEZED VEGETABLE JUICE, pressed using a
GREEN STAR JUICER.
The green star slowly presses the cells releasing the essential nutrients including enzymes, amino acids (protein), carbohydrates, minerals, vitamins, anti-oxidants, a trace of essential fatty acids, phyto-nutrients (chlorophyll, flavonoids...) and pure plant water into a highly assimilable elixir. Consuming nutrients in this form maximizes their availability and results in near 100% absorption.
WHERE DO THE INGREDIENTS COME FROM???
Most of the ingredients I get at the local San Luis Obispo county farmers markets, at least with in a day or two of being harvested it is pressed. The roots are coming from an organic farm in Hawaii. This freshness allows us to keep the vital Qi and Vibratory (energy) qualities of the vegetable intact. The juice is so potent that the process of healing begins immediately when consumed.
ARE THE INGREDIENTS CERTIFIED ORGANIC?
This is a great question! The local farmers I purchase from are ALWAYS pesticide & fertilizer free and sometimes certified. I have relationships with certain local farms that I know their practices have integrity. When I can not get the ingredients locally, then YES, I ALWAYS PURCHASE FROM CERTIFIED ORGANIC FARMS!!!
WHAT EXACTLY IS IN THE JUICE???
LIQUID LOVE is made up of CUCUMBER, CELERY, KALE, DANDELION, PARSLEY, CILANTRO, BURDOCK ROOT, TURMERIC, GINGER, LEMON and cayenne.
WHAT ARE THE GREEN JUICE BENEFITS???
Drinking raw live juices daily, eliminating unhealthy stresses and habits, living a balanced lifestyle, and eating a healthy diet promotes optimal heath and the potential to reverse or avert disease. Typically, the more juice you consume, providing ample nutrition for rebuilding and detoxification, the more you are able to heal and the more resistant you are to disease and degeneration. The deep nutrition derived from the juice is reflected in all levels of the body. Soon, after drinking it daily, people notice thier skin, hair and complexion improving, their digestion harmonizing, elimination is easy and regular, no more acid reflux, hair gets lustier and fuller, congestion clears, and energy improves. Ongoing drinking of juice over time produces deeper results; lessening and elimination of inflammation that cause pains and ache, weight loss or weight gain (as the digestion system is healed and the ability to eliminate waste improves one's weight will adjust as needed) muscle spasms & cramps end, and a quieting of the nervous system and mind, allergies clear, improved overall performance, balancing of hormones, better sleep, improved immune system and an extended long healthy life. I really could go on here. Many books are written about the healing power of juice!

THE POWER TO HEAL YOURSELF IS REALLY WITHIN YOU!!!
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fuck paying $500 for a juicer.

I'll just keep eating my grains and beans.
 
yeah..and it takes about an hour to juice a gallon. That's probably why she charges $60 per.

however, she just bought a $5,000 one that does it 10 times faster. hopefully with me providing my own kale the price will come down some, lol. It is REALLY good juice though!
 
Looking at that Juicer though, it looks like a pile of shit. I bet you can juice these fruits and veggies with some primitive mortal and pestle type device for free and get a good workout at the same time...

edit: or something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Z-Star-Z-510-...r_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=kitchen&qid=1278163950&sr=1-5

This sounds like a great way to get a shit-load of nutrients and vitamins, etc... but with the price of produce, I'd probably be able to make one glass of juice a week.
 
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Yeah, you don't need any sort of expensive juicer to do juicing... you can just blend stuff up in a cheap blender and then strain it. I honestly find that easier than a juicer.

Organic produce is expensive but I can't tolerate anything else, so I just adjust the rest of my life accordingly. I agree strongly with everything Mehm said. You are what you eat. Food comes first, before ANYTHING else.... it amazes me how many people put other stuff first, and will eat shitty food in order to party, buy stuff, etc.

I make an organic smoothie every morning and I consider it my multivitamin! Good fat, some carbs, lots of fiber, enzymes, vitamins = yum!!! :)
 
I forgot to add that for breakfast I've been making a blended juice alternative:

-8 oz 100% juice (usually blueberry, pomegranate, or cherry)
-handful of berries, a banana, and/or strawberry
-no sugar greek yogurt (20g protein)
-3 ice cubes
-teaspoon flaxseed
-teaspoon psyllium husk
-teaspoon crushed salvia hispanica

tastes great, and has bunch of protein, omega 3, and fiber. good for pre-workout when combined with a small bowl of oatmeal too.
 
nice find on the manual juicer. I'm definitely going to talk to my home girl about it and see what she thinks. She has built quite a large and thriving business with the greenstar so I doubt it's a "pile of shit" ;)
 
I choose the Diet of Good Taste.

I will not eat putrid Thai food with rotten fish sauce.

I will eat raw salmon for breakfast every day given that it is Tokyo-fresh.

I will not eat goats or any of their products.

However, Elk happens to be my favourite meat.

Ideally, I'd be hunting and fishing everything I eat, but I currently don't know how to do either and lack access to good spots for that.

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Recently, I've been getting into identifying edible wild plants. It is a great hobby :).
 
Jamshyd said:
Recently, I've been getting into identifying edible wild plants. It is a great hobby :).
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Do you research with books, the Internet, or just trial and error? Just curious.

Also, are you aware those "helicopters" from trees are edible? Well, the seed inside the "helicopter" is. My mom was quite alarmed when she saw me eat one... Thought it was Vegan nonsense when I said they're actually edible, lol. (Also, what are they called, if you know? I know I know, but I cannot think for the life of me right now.)
 
This is a really interesting thread with some great posts. It really goes to show that there is no one "best" diet and it really depends on the person. Recently I have been putting some effort into figuring out what is best for me.

I went vegetarian about ten years ago (I'm 24 now). This was originally purely for moral reasons with health not really being much of a factor. Before going vegetarian and for the first 5+ years of being vegetarian I ate pretty badly.. a lot of wheat and dairy and fake meat like boca and morningstar, was very picky with vegetables and didn't eat a lot of them.

The last few years I've gotten more into eating healthy, learned a lot about cooking and gradually forced myself to learn to love vegetables. I started eating fish again about 2 years ago before going to Japan for a few months to make that experience easier. At the beginning of this year I decided to stop eating dairy and lasted a few months, now I'll eat a little but try to avoid it as much as possible. My diet now is mostly grains (mainly rice and quinoa), vegetables and fruits, nuts and seeds, and fish a couple times a week. I'll also usually eat an egg for breakfast like 4 or 5 days a week.

Figuring out what works for you is definitely a long continuous process, and I'd be curious to hear about how others went about figuring out which foods affect you in what way. It can be difficult to tell when you are constantly putting so many different things into your body and there are so many factors that can affect overall health. For example, I've been gluten-free for a month and I definitely notice a difference but at the same time that is about the time that I've been brewing kombucha and drinking a cup or two daily, running daily, and cutting back majorly on weed after being a huge pothead for like 8 years. I guess recently I've come to realize that good health really does come before everything else. Im really only beginning to figure out what means good health for me though and would love any advice about approaches to doing that.
 
I was vegetarian from age 13-20 just because I thought I was being cool (I was), and because meat sort of turned my stomach. Stopped caring about that for several years, then went vegan for a better reason - to stop animal cruelty.
 
My diet mainly consists of dried fruits, nuts, seeds, nice wholemeal bread, vegies, and some fish. I don't eat any animal flesh except for the occaisional piece of salmon; just following my instinct really. I'm not a fan of defining myself as a vegetarian; people always assume that it means I am completely opposed to meat-eating of all kinds. I'm not; I'm just opposed to myself eating meat...

Good stuff to eat: banana's, blackcurrants, espresso, brazil nuts, "health bars", leafy greens, lentils, chickpeas, citrus fruits....tastes nice and is healthy.
 
^ Eeeeew!

Continuing on the same Diet of Contradictions:

Okra is a monstrosity that somehow made it into human diet.

Yet I will take your gumbo any time ;).
 
just had grilled okra for the first time last night (soaked in Texas Pete for 30 min before it went on). i like it better than the slimier steamed kind. i'd still say pickled okra is my favorite though.

(goat cheese is pretty bomb too)
 
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