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did my drug use fry my brain?

alright i have one last question, sorry for being a pain in the ass i just got kinda worried.

so anyway my buddy is bugging about plans for 4/20 and im wondering if i can even smoke, so do you guys have recommendations on how long to abstain from marijuana usage? thanks again.

marijuana is never gonna hurt you, it gets you high but its very benign. I highly doubt that MJ is part of your problem at all. However it is a psychotropic substance, so it could trigger some kind of memory of your feelings on LSA some people incorrectly associate these flashbacks as the LSA or more commonly LSD reactivating in your body or something...this is completely inaccurate. It is simply a memory of that feeling which you are now familiar with. So ya lessons aside...smoke if you want, if you think you are not ready then dont. Other than possibly triggering some slight hallucinations, the MJ should not effect you any differently than it normally would.
 
I think you're gonna be fine, although what's odd is I started noticing more floaters in my vision after lsa use but i also spend too much time indoors staring at a computer screen so maybe that's the problem, have you been spending a lot more time indoors because of winter? or just because? I know I had the sensitivity to light issue but since i started going outside more because it got warmer that's pretty much gone, maybe both of us have these visual issues because we come from the same generation so we try legal highs sit inside on the internet increasing our optic nerves sensitivity and then psychosomatically blame those problems on the legal highs? just a hunch, but i don't think you have anything to worry about lay off the drugs for a while if you're worried, or stop doing them, or try safer ones? There's lots of possibilities but i don't think you've fried your brain since you're posting understandable comments on the internet, but maybe if there is a next time avoid LSA, i liked it the first 2 times i did it but the couple times after that taught me it doesn't like to be consumed, if you're gonna do psychedelics stick to the more time tested ones.
Also, abstain from marijuana as long as YOU feel you should, if you feel like you should never smoke it again don't, if you feel like you'll be fine to smoke it then do, certainly don't do it just to please your friends on the holidays though, theres a 4/20 every year.


I have been spending a fair amount of time indoors, however the last couple days i've been going outside because its been nice out. Ever since, my visuals have died a fair amount. I've been kinda been out of it though, like I've been staring of into space and starting my sentences with words that i dont intend to say. Im probably just being ocd though since im just now really noticing it. thanks again.
 
Yoi are very new to psychs i take it?


yeah lsa was my first real psychedelic. I shouldn't have done it a second time because i started to have a bad trip the first time, and i pretty much ignored my state of mind. i think i might lay off them for awhile, i dont think i can really handle them.
 
A little over 2 months ago I got a legit case of SS from mixing tramadol with excessive amounts of alcohol, weed, and nicotine. I haven't drank a drink, smoked a cigarette, or popped a pill since then. I spent hours in tremors expecting death to come to me any second, and I was too delirious to figure out how to use my phone to call 9-11. The next 2 days I spent shitting pale lumps 4x a day and pissing stinky cloudy urine. If I don't run at least 2 miles before bed, I am unable to sleep due to panic attacks. Even though I'm sure it's just anxiety ruling my body at this point in recovery, the mere idea of ingesting chemicals 2 months ago causes me to second guess myself every time I tell myself "it's just anxiety."


My advice:

eat healthy.

run every morning and every night.

if you really want to smoke the herb, grab a different strain than the one you tripped on and do a single toke right before a good long run, it's the only way you'll be able to enjoy it without thinking about your bad trip.

quit it with the psychedelics, you can't handle them anymore, and that's a good thing.

and last but not least, talk to a doctor or therapist about getting CBT therapy for your anxiety and quit the prozac. SSRI's are POISON
 
There hasent been enough research on long term effects of drug usage on certain drugs, but what I can say is that I experienced seretonin syndrome a few years ago when I would dose on dxm 2-3 times weekly. I was also on an ssri at the time but like you, had stopped it before I would dose in advance, unfortunetly I have had the following effects that I believed are caused from seretonin syndrome : Dizziness after immediately getting up (kind of like blacking out, I think), also I see floaters more frequently or had more than ever following my case of seretonin syndrome, and overall I just felt it had a negative effect on my health in an unexplainable way. It has gotten better with time but I think I am stilling feeling the effects. BUT then again- who really knows! I still use other drugs heavily, mostly prescription pills that fuck with your transmitters, psychedelics,cannabis, and occasionally dissasociatives or some MDMA.
 
I find the effects of DXM to resemble descriptions of serotonin syndrome symptoms, only milder: hypertension, hyperthermia, feeling of overload in some weird way and a few other similarities. There is serotonergic action with DXM but I don't think it's useful to involve the term serotonin syndrome since that designates something far more serious.

Your symptoms sound more HPPD-like, being more sensitive to visual distortion and floaters and also photosensitivity... and if I were you I wouldn't worry about having a fried brain since it's a blunt and not very meaningful idea to begin with. While I find it unsophisticated, that doesn't mean you shouldn't regard these symptoms and such bad experiences as potentially harmful. HPPD is notoriously hard to treat and highly unpredictable as far as gauging the chance you will get it or how fast you will lose such symptoms if ever. Learning how to deal and accept it is one major part of it I think, and another is laying off the drugs in a broad sense.
 
You guys are probably right i highly doubt i did any damage. most of the symptoms of my eyes hurting and whatnot have cleared up. the one thing im still worried about is the fact that i still get visuals at night (mostly objects shifting in the dark). It kinda feaks me out im not gonna lie. i talked to a friend who a huge psychonaut and he said that its probably not hppd and that it should go away, but im starting to think it may be permenant considering its been over two weeks, any thought?

since childhood your eyes have played tricks on you in the dark, its just a flaw in human perception
 
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