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Did I create a Kratom full spectrum isolate?

GeisterxFahrer

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What I did was I took about 5 grams of 15x powder, doused it with 8mL/50mg 7hydroxymitragynine isolate, then poured a 2mL full spectrum tincture with the claim of 200 grams of leaf per 2mL. I had to add a little more alcohol to it. Anyway, I shook it it and yada yada, I dried out the powder again and poured the brownish yellow alcohol into a pyrex dish and let it evap. The 5mg of powder dried but I am wondering if the alcohol kept all the alkaloids and made the powder useles. Anyway, once the dish was dry, I scraped up everything with a razor and it formed a powder with crystals in it. Everytime I have ordered a supposed full spectrum extract from a vendor, it never had crystals in it. I am wondering if that is the 7OHM dried up in the mix, or the alkaloids from the 200g of the 2mL FST dried up as well, because in the alcohol, there as no powder when I poured it into the pyrex (filtered out the powder and placed in a separate dish). What do you think this extract I made is? I have been told (but can not confirm) that certain pure Kratom alkaloids will turn into crystals, especially 7OHM. I got around 350mg of this extract which, to me, seems like it pulled some alkaloids from the powder since I used 200 grams worth of FSE and 50mg of 7hydroxy isolate. How potent do you think this extract is? I have not put it on powdered leaf so it is still in pure extract form. Any ideas on dosing?

According to a source, "An average leaf weighs about 1.7 grams fresh [and] 0.43 grams dried. Twenty leaves contain approximately 17 mg of mitragynine". If that is the case,then 8.6 grams of dried leaf would contain about 17mg of Mitragynine. And also according to the same source, Mitragynine accounts for about 1/2 of all alkaloids present. So on this assumption we can guesstimate that 8.6 grams of dried leaf has not only 17mg of Mitragynine, but 34mg of alkaloid content total. (200/8.6)(17mg)= approximately 395.35mg of Mitragynine in the 200 grams of dried leaf supposedly used in this FST, but this we can assume that 790.7mg of alkaloids are present total in 200grams of dried leaf. I do not know what % of that alkaloidal content is actualy 7OHM but I know I had around 50mg isolate in there. What do you guys think? Is this a TRUE full spectrum isolate of pure alkaoids?

Apparently it is pure alkaloids, and just did a rail and there was no burn whatsoever, tastes like it smells, I just did it as a test though because I know that at least 7OH is more active orally.
 
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honestly from what it sounds kratom is not going to be able to provide what your looking for, plain leaf is the way to go and maybe on occasional extract but just some uei or fst (10-12drops) , keep it low, all those extracts put together may be a nice experience but be ready for your tolerance to sky rocket to K, and plain leaf will do nothing for quite some time , not worth it to me but to each their own...
 
Yup, the extracts will skyrocket your K tolerance. I fell in love with UEI about 11 months back. It gave me an incredible and long lasting high equivalent to at least 80 - 100mg of Hydrocodone, but lasted damn near all day.

After about 4 months UEI didn't make me high anymore - it made me sick. No high accompanied with nausea and headaches. It sucked.

The good news is that tolerance will diminish. After a 3 month break I tried once again, and was delighted to find that 1 heaping tsp of UEI got me nodding hard again.
 
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