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Did anyone else see that story on Sunday night about Xanax?

Lol I was just too tired tonight to try and set her straight! 8) She is always ringing me to warn me of some shit or other that's bad for you that she saw on Dr Oz (that douchebag has a lot to answer for!!). Either that or some scam where ppl call you at home (despite me not ever using my home phone) and try to scam you out of money that she saw on Today Tonight or A Current Affair.

She knows that I'm not stupid and try to keep myself well informed,but even when I try to tell her not to worry,she still puts blind faith in what they say on these retarded shows.My dad is also appalled that I never watch the news on tv.I've explained ad nauseum that the news is depressing as hell and I prefer to stay up to date by reading news sites daily and deciding what I want to know more about,rather than having a whole bunch of crap in my face.He believes that by not watching the news that "I don't have a clue what's happening in the world".

I love my parents to bits,but damn they can do my head in! Lol I've told them I'm taking their tv away if they don't start using it responsibly =D
 
Haha that must be a nightmare at times, I'd need a few valium after that too :p It sounds like you handle it well though, I'd fly into a frothing rage if someone started a serious discussion with me about something they saw on some daytime TV talk show or ACA/TT. My dad watches Dr. Phil sometimes, but I think he just gets a laugh out of it.

I agree about the news, even reading it online can be depressing sometimes, but at least you can pick and choose and try and get a more balanced point of view from multiple sources.
 
MissNervosa said:
I love my parents to bits,but damn they can do my head in! Lol I've told them I'm taking their tv away if they don't start using it responsibly =D
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hehe awesome.
we're lucky nowadays to have the option of endless sources of information. thoroughly agree that some kind of balance can be reached by getting your info from lots of different places. i can't handle when people talk about shit they've seen on aca/tt either...this is probably very obvious in my posts haha.

those shows are so fucking trashy and exploitative. not a reliable source of information!

don't know if anyone here remembers the satirical show 'frontline' from the 90s, but it was right on the money.

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Dunno said:
Where's your proof benzo's cause brain damage?
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Sorry, I thought this was common knowledge but here is a good article about it.

Brain Damage from Benzodiazepines: The Troubling Facts, Risks, and History of Minor Tranquilizers
Psychiatrists have long known that benzodiazepines can cause brain damage
Published on November 18, 2010 by Christopher Lane, Ph.D. in Side Effects
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/side-effects/201011/brain-damage-benzodiazepines-the-troubling-facts-risks-and-history-minor-tr

there is a lot more just google "benzodiazepines cause brain damage" like the following:

Cognitive Impairment and Long-Term Damage

The many papers published in the 1960s and early to mid 1970s on this subject were largely single dose therapeutic dose studies or low-dose studies for periods of a few weeks. They showed a range of deficits in cognitive function, psychomotor performance and short-term memory problems with no development of tolerance. It was not until the late 1970s and early 1980s (when therapeutic dose dependency was belatedly accepted), that cognitive function and other tests on long-term benzodiazepine users (up to 10 years) were studied both during use and in acute withdrawals. From the mid 1980s to mid 1990s there was an increasing number of studies looking at damage after long-term use and at follow-up periods after discontinuation of up to six years. Several of these studies involve CT scans of the brain looking for structural changes.

Summary

Benzodiazepines produce impairment of cognitive functioning and psychomotor performance e.g. reaction time, vigilance, arousal, judgement, reasoning, speed and accuracy of information processing, visual spatial ability, co-ordination, short-term and post drug long-term memory, 'blackouts' and learned tasks.

These effects are independent of abuse, dependency, non-dependency, normal, healthy, young or old subjects. Impairment increases with chronic use. Development of tolerance to these effects is very slow.

CT brain scans show a difference in ventricular cerebral spinal fluid space dimensions between benzodiazepine users and non-users, and also between high and low benzodiazepine users.

The functional brain damage causes increased morbidity, increased mortality and social deterioration.

Subjects are generally not aware of their reduced capacity or the fact that they are not functioning well in every day life.

In general much of the impairment is slowly reversible. Some aspects show improvement after six years, some are semi-permanent or permanent.
http://www.benzo.org.uk/vot4.htm

According to benzo.org.uk, there have been hundreds of studies done showing that benzos fuck you over very badly in the long term.
 
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I laughed so hard when they revealed the "black market price!!!!!" of Xanax. $100 a pill? $30,000 a bottle?
Sensationalist journalism at its finest.
 
Sonny Jim said:
Sorry, I thought this was common knowledge but here is a good article about it.

Brain Damage from Benzodiazepines: The Troubling Facts, Risks, and History of Minor Tranquilizers
Psychiatrists have long known that benzodiazepines can cause brain damage
Published on November 18, 2010 by Christopher Lane, Ph.D. in Side Effects
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/side-effects/201011/brain-damage-benzodiazepines-the-troubling-facts-risks-and-history-minor-tr

there is a lot more just google "benzodiazepines cause brain damage" like the following:

Cognitive Impairment and Long-Term Damage

The many papers published in the 1960s and early to mid 1970s on this subject were largely single dose therapeutic dose studies or low-dose studies for periods of a few weeks. They showed a range of deficits in cognitive function, psychomotor performance and short-term memory problems with no development of tolerance. It was not until the late 1970s and early 1980s (when therapeutic dose dependency was belatedly accepted), that cognitive function and other tests on long-term benzodiazepine users (up to 10 years) were studied both during use and in acute withdrawals. From the mid 1980s to mid 1990s there was an increasing number of studies looking at damage after long-term use and at follow-up periods after discontinuation of up to six years. Several of these studies involve CT scans of the brain looking for structural changes.

Summary

Benzodiazepines produce impairment of cognitive functioning and psychomotor performance e.g. reaction time, vigilance, arousal, judgement, reasoning, speed and accuracy of information processing, visual spatial ability, co-ordination, short-term and post drug long-term memory, 'blackouts' and learned tasks.

These effects are independent of abuse, dependency, non-dependency, normal, healthy, young or old subjects. Impairment increases with chronic use. Development of tolerance to these effects is very slow.

CT brain scans show a difference in ventricular cerebral spinal fluid space dimensions between benzodiazepine users and non-users, and also between high and low benzodiazepine users.

The functional brain damage causes increased morbidity, increased mortality and social deterioration.

Subjects are generally not aware of their reduced capacity or the fact that they are not functioning well in every day life.

In general much of the impairment is slowly reversible. Some aspects show improvement after six years, some are semi-permanent or permanent.
http://www.benzo.org.uk/vot4.htm

According to benzo.org.uk, there have been hundreds of studies done showing that benzos fuck you over very badly in the long term.
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gOod read...I know they fuck you up just didn't know they cause brain damage. will look for alternatives
 
Tripman said:
I dunno man, xanax was always thrown at me by doctors.
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haha, for some reason that doesnt surprise me. uve had two benzos that most people consider impossible to find. IME and from what ive heard from others it isnt thrown around like, say temazepam or oxazepam. i find its usually one of the last options. ive been prescribed many benzos over the years and id never known about authority scripts (unless dealing with opiates etc) untill alprazolam was brought up. no doctor wants to call in for an authority script if it can be avoided, in my experiance.
 
Crankinit said:
Yeah xanax can be nasty stuff, but that article is seriously overblown.

That said, I think clonazepam is worse by far. It just seems to trigger something that none of the other benzos do, for me it always leads to blackouts and compulsive drug taking in a way that say, valium, or xanax, don't.

Ok what the fuck is up with that woman? There's no way xanax alone led to that kind of degradation. There must have been something else going on in her life.
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Totally agree - Clonazepam comes on slow so you dont really notice you are wasted and then one does heaps of shit/binges etc. Xanax/Valium comes on fast and for whatever reason that stops me from doing bad shit. With Kpins its like: cant feel shit, need to take more and/or something else - and then it all hits and you are FUCKED.
 
Well it looks like the Xanax stories are taking effect around Sydney at least :X

I was advertising on a couple of different sites for a dexie/ adderall/amphetamines in general hook up (yes I'm that sad that I had to resort to advertising for a source) and have had 5 different people contact me in the last week.They all asked if I'm selling any benzos (WTF?) or if had a source could I pass it on to them,because " since that story on Xanax,doctors are just not prescribing it anymore".Five different people said the same thing!! One guy even said his doctor regularly prescribed him Xanax and since the story,his doctor has told him he has to taper off them.

Fuck the media :!
 
^ i don't know what websites you are using to try and find a 'source' (nor do i want to!) but please be careful, that seems like a pretty easy way to walk into a police sting. not worth it for rx meds, if you ask me.
 
spacejunk said:
^ i don't know what websites you are using to try and find a 'source' (nor do i want to!) but please be careful, that seems like a pretty easy way to walk into a police sting. not worth it for rx meds, if you ask me.
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This x 1000
 
spacejunk said:
^ i don't know what websites you are using to try and find a 'source' (nor do i want to!) but please be careful, that seems like a pretty easy way to walk into a police sting. not worth it for rx meds, if you ask me.
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I've only gotten responses from overseas online pharmacies anyway,so I think it's time to start asking around my friends again.Surely someone can get me speed,which would prob be better than pharms anyway *sigh* At least I'm prescribed Xanax,so that's one thing I don't have to stress about.
 
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