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Benzos Diazepam

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oh, I did something wrong, didn't wnat to double post, sorry.
@kongoman, I made a mistake: I took clotiapine like being trazodone, but after searching that Eutimia you said, I noticed that I was wrong. I didn't knew it, I will have a look on it if you say that it works for sleep and it's not too dirty.
Thanks for sharing it, mate👍
Recommend you to start with 10mg.
 
I'd recommend Temazepam over Diazepam for sleep. Diazepam is great, but its long half-life makes it unsuitable for frequent use if you want to avoid an addiction. Temazepam has a much shorter half-life and you have less of a hang over in the morning.
I can take a lot ob benzos and no hang over. Just today I got 40x5mg diazepam. Im happy! From my doctor. I manipulated him haha
 
Hahaha wondering your technique for this! I wish my dr wasn’t such a tight ass
I had bad anxiety and went to emwrgency room and they gave me diazepam.
After I went to my doctor and told him that I had anxiety and told him that when in emergency room gave me a diazepam it gave me a very good relief hahaha
 
clonazepam 0.25 is equal to about 10mg diazepam...account this and acustumize ur dose of diazepam to it....if properly find to right ammount u need to change clonaz to diesel u shoud not have some problems....only two-three times had been used clonaz.....too strong for me....one of the worst benzo to be hooked on imo
 
Nas47 i felt the same regarding Clonazepam, I imagine it to be a very difficult benzo to get off, not that any of them are easy but Clon does give you a slap, well it did me. I'm trying to sort my own 30mg diaz trouble out atm, i tried Clon and it had me laid out @ 2mg, it reminded me of Nitrazepam a little, only i used to enjoy 'moggies' as i felt they were a bit more euphoric and slightly less sedating.

O/P, there is a really good chart in the EADD forum (waking up in a wakefield skip) that was posted by 'Bleaney', it outlines the effects of many benzo's and is definitely worth a look.

As Nas47 has said, if you are going to move over to diaz then you will need to work out your equivalent dose Clon/diaz and go from there.

I wish you well mate, and please report back how you are getting on.
Good luck and take care.
 
One of the problems with switching from clonazepam to another benzo is that you'll need to pay at least 2.5 - 4 times as much to get the equivalent dose from most others, as you'll need to pay for that many more pills, whether it's diaz, xanax or w/e.

Obviously this becomes more of an issue if your clonazepam dose gets as high as 2mg. At that stage it would work out very expensive to switch to diazepam, as you'd have to pay for so many more pills.

I know I ended up on clonaz because it seemed to be by far the least faked benzo in the UK. But with the combination of these financial reasons, as well as issues with being able to consistently find other types of benzos that are completely legit, it seems extra difficult and problematic to switch to another type of benzo.

Yes Diaz is probably going to more 'benign' and etizolam definitely is, but with the duration of etiz being about half or a 3rd that of clonaz, along with potentially needing 2-4 pills to cover just a half or 3rd of the time that clonaz covers, you'd need pretty deep pockets and a good regular supply to switch to etiz, as you'd potentially be getting through a huge amount of pills.

It seems that the best thing for anyone to do, whose on a higher dose of clonaz to do is probably to taper down the clonaz, as low as possible to 0.5 or ideally 0.25. And then at that point switch to diaz or etiz, so that at least it's not going to break the bank.

I don't think it's actually 4 times stronger than diaz, but I havent had the opportunity to complete my 'field tests' on this. I suspect it's going to be roughly more like 3 times stronger. I did discover that 20mg of diaz felt badly underdosed in comparison to 2mg of clon, but I havent had the opportunity to work up any further as of yet.
 
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I miss having the brand name Valium 10 mg, with the V shaped hole in the middle. 1 of them felt like 3 of the blue 10mg apo diazepam tabs.
 
I had bad anxiety and went to emwrgency room and they gave me diazepam.
After I went to my doctor and told him that I had anxiety and told him that when in emergency room gave me a diazepam it gave me a very good relief hahaha
Be warned in DETOX they kinda overdosed me 5 days, it lasted 3 weeks.

They where ment for alohol WD, don t really help, but prevent seizures,
And are excellent for two things.
Resetting your sleep rythm [you black out at 20 mg ime] and cover lack of THC.

Its not like any other benzo besides Chlordiazepoxide. So warm and lasting, like Temazepam.
But that has ultra short duration.
 
pro-diazepam is freely available in canada and reasonably cheap. it’s a prodrug to diazepam
Pro-diazepam? Please explain..interesting.

On the side not klonopin to me isn't much..if it's not a 2mg pill I don't even really want it. Obviously I have the kindling tolerance effect because I only pick up about 20 or less of these 2mg pills..to me I have to pop one, break the other in half sublingual and snort a small half or quarter..I KNOW I KNOW DON'T SNORT YOUR PILLS KIDS but I'm an adult and will fuck myself in my own way AND a snort of klonopin hits a thousand times better and faster otherwise I could drop four 2mg pills and then be sedated..I do not do this daily only a crutch for a stim comedown, windowpane or molly come down..

But same goes for Valium I love it sublingually it seems to numb the bottom of the tounge a bit sorta like methadone.. and YEAH if I have one or 2 Valium, fuck you, at least half of that will be snorted and then boom goodbye tolerance issue. Luckily I do not get terrible rebound or WD effects (probably because its not as consistent Asa real prescription prescribed to me,..I'd be popping all day. The only time I ever felt shakes n shit from benzos was hard-core teen drinking nights with about 5-8mg Xanax blackouts...that shit took its toll on me.

I really do wish the anti benzo bandwagon would end(and opioids bs too) because if I was prescribed 1mg Xanax or 10mg Valium or klonopin...I would not be out seeking opiates as much. This I know 100%.
 
Good point!!^^ I stand corrected. I indeed would be seeking other substances if I went blackout mode which is easy to do if I have quantity. Especially when I was younger..

Now days it's more therapeutic dosing..like 2mg bar or even a 10mg valium I KNOW will take the edge off but as far as a buzz or being high, no. I've noticed responsible dosing or using it sparingly very much does stop me from sayyyy a nightcap of Norco or oxy that I don't even need...I'd say it cuts both ways and obviously addictive so yeah if I had a script it essentially means slippery slope if not taking as prescribed.

I understand why doctors hesitate but after digging yourself out of your own grave an umpteenth amount of times and realize you don't want to dose as high but rather as prescribed, there should be something available for anxiety/panic disorder.
 
Yep you in the hot seat now we need answers lol @username_required

Avizafone (aka “pro-diazepam”) is unscheduled in canada and can be purchased online without a prescription or license as long as it is “not for human consumption”. Avizafone is converted into Diazepam after you ingest it (by red blood cells I believe) and therefore the effects are identical. The potency is somewhat lower by weight and depends on the route of administration but I think it’s somewhere around half the potency of regular Diazepam.
 
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