Benzos Diazepam

[Pill Clinton]

I find Diazepam to be excellent. I am a veteran of Benzo's I was on an astronomical amount of Xanax8mg & Klonopin 4mg together for over 10 years. Before that I was on 6mgs of Klonopin and I think it was 30mg Temazepam. Temazepam is very hard to get where I'm from as well as Halcion. But when I was in a horrible Car Accident they gave me Dilaudid, Oxycodone & a small dose of Diazepam it changed my whole out look.
Diazepam is just as effective as a Opiate like Codeine, Tussionex or Tramadol.

 

[RT_4]

Very niche question. But i’ve been using valium and xanax for a little while now. Say I only took 10mg once a week of valium when needed, would the fact i’m spacing out my dosages and not using daily mean I could use it for longer term. A few months perhaps. I’m going through a pretty rough time with anxiety at the moment. Some tasks are too nerve racking but I need to get them done. So I take a benzo and problem solved. I will be using them recreationally as well but I just was wondering because I can’t seem to get any advice online and I don’t want to damage my brain. Does spacing out dosages make a difference. Like will it not alter my brain chemistry if im spacing out my dosages. Or should i really only keep it to a few weeks of usage. Really need some advice because my anxiety is getting bad, but I want to stay safe at the same time.

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

that's pretty tame. I wouldn't expect much anything really happening in given timeframe.

 

[RT_4]

that's pretty tame. I wouldn't expect much anything really happening in given timeframe.

yeah i guess that isn’t too bad. So what would happen if i used like once a week for like 6 months for example. Would i develop any kind of dependance? I really have very little knowledge. Sorry these questions are very niche, but I just want to be safe about these things aha

 

[Ballz_Trippington]

I would suspect that you would be at risk of becoming dependent taking diazepam every week for half a year...it'll become part of your routine and then your in for more than you bargained for....believe me I understand....I have an incredibly hard time falling asleep without them but if I could sleep like a normal human I would not touch any Benzodiazepines whatsoever....they are miraculous but also a double edged sword.
If you are able to manage without them you're better off and your future self will thank you.

 

[brokedownpalace10]

IME, at least with drugs that last in your system for a while, you will slowly start to get the beginnings of addiction which will make it very hard to keep to weekends. Even if you can keep to weekends, the bad effects/withdrawal will start to color your whole week.

Good news? That does take a long time. Months for sure. That can be addressed by taking months long breaks every 3-6 months.

I spent my entire 30's doing that. I was taking college courses associated with my job and I would party hearty on weekends for a semester or two and then get "on the wagon" for a semester or two and take a couple classes. Loved it, I called it the best of both worlds.

 

[Nas47]

This alter ur brain chemistry offcourse...even if u skip up doses...med.got very long actin' metabolits....and u became more proned to addiction

 

[PtahTek]

Use as needed and getting your meds from a legitimate pharmacy this in my opinion is sustainable.
Now when the doses start going up to cover any tolerance issues this may play out the devil in this saga.
But you already skip doses... I do this at times and it helps somewhat with control/impulsiveness and maybe a lot with tolerance building.
Not a doc of any kind just from my own experience(s).
Keep this mindset.
If there comes a time you need to drop anything do it in increments (taper off).
Best always

Really need some advice because my anxiety is getting bad, but I want to stay safe at the same time.

You have means to calm tf down. If it is at this stage take your med.
These are prescribed medications, correct?

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

i took between 10 and 20 mg of valium for a few years about once a week with zero negative side effects - no physical addictions at all - i did forget some things tho that happened during that time period that ppl remind me about....but nothing important tho

i feel like it did a lot of good for me - i'll give you an example of something that i noticed: prior to taking them, for whatever reason, i was getting a bit panicky during a drive to and from work, over an overpass exit from a highway that was really high up and then turned and then kinda came down - and that stopped happening after popping about the same amount as you're talking and in the same manner

i think once a week is definitely the way to go - for me anyway....i love valium - i think it's great

 

[Spinderella13]

Thank you. I know it will be some time before I feel withdrawal, probably. The gabapentin might help me out here the most. I suppose phenibut is also an option. I've never taken it, but there's plenty of good websites with it. Apparently it is pretty addicting and feels similar to benzos. If I feel I reach a point where I'm truly suffering then I might give it a try. At the moment gabapentin has been getting me by, and melatonin. Maybe the withdrawal won't be quite as bad as I think, it's really hard to say, I've never been through it before.

And LonelyDude, please leave me alone, lol... If I was a drug seeker I would turn to the streets, but I won't, and I would have made up excuses to raise my dose much higher. I admit having some addictive tendencies but you're going off what, the fact that I wanted to try MDMA once when there's no harmful interaction between a drug that I already quit? Like I'd said I'm a fast metabolizer. And even if I was a regular one, it will be out of my system. Let's talk celexa just for reference. It has a 36 hour half life, but 99% of it is out of your system in 7 days. Ami has a 24 hour half life. It will have been minimum 6 days since my last dose of Ami.

You're generally just being rude at this point.

this might be something you won't want to try just because you are maybe trying to get off of benzos but a good synthetic benzo that you can order legally in the United States is FLUBROMAZOLAM and there's others similar to it depending on whether your preference is Xanax Klonopin or Valium I myself preferred ALPRAZOLAM (zanax). It's synthetic but it has very similar effects and it's actually pretty strong so you need to be careful but it's maybe an option since your doctor cut you off cold turkey if you wanted to maybe wean yourself off using the synthetic there's a bunch of information you can get about it if you just Google it on the internet and then there's a lot of good Distributors for it also I hope you're not offended by my answer I'm not trying to promote you staying on drugs or anything just I know how very hard it is to kick benzos cold turkey I use Xanax for probably three and a half years straight at about 9 10 mg a day and it was absolutely ruthless having to go cold turkey and it's also a lot more dangerous than people presume that's why I don't understand doctors cutting people off of benzos especially cold turkey because they know the risks and they still do it anyways it's total bullshit

 

[Spinderella13]

^Yes the batch matters with Mulungu. Like kratom. I believe what kratom is to opiates mulungu is to benzos. But batch matters and when I found a good batch I bought a lot. It takes a good handful simmered for a bit to work. But it is undeniable and we will hear more in the future about this.

so do you have to go on the dark web I'm curious or like is it legal to buy the MULUNGU BARK in the United States? Because I myself have struggled with benzos for years and years and I forget who mentioned it but it did take me probably 3 years of doing them and having to stop because of jails and prisons and stuff before I really noticed bad withdrawals but the last maybe 5 years I get horrible withdrawal from Xanax , actually the first maybe three four years I used I used Klonopin and I didn't really notice withdrawals I don't know if it was from it being Klonopin or just cuz it was in the beginning of my benzo addiction. Anyways basically I'm just curious about the bark because I've never really heard of it synthetic fences that you can buy on just regular internet in the United States like FLUBROMAZOLAM would be my first turn to but I'm serious about the bark

 

[Hex13]

At that dose and the short time you've been on it, youll just return to your anxiety.
Find a new doctor and get on a decent dose of klonopin. Valium is weak

 

[Hex13]

Definately no serious withdrawal at those doses and time.

 

[JackARoe]

so do you have to go on the dark web I'm curious or like is it legal to buy the MULUNGU BARK in the United States?
I'm serious about the bark

Yes it is legal. I have not had it in 10 years. I use to use it to come down from psychedelics before I found etizolam. But the bark has to come from a reputable herbal shop. Once I found a good source (long gone) I use to buy it buy the pounds. A handful simmered for 20 minutes felt like 5-10 mgs of valium to me. Much more than say valerian root. Valerian is strong too, but it makes me depressed the next day. Mulungu was a quick relaxing tea. But I also had some from vendors that did nothing. I would start a dialog with a vendor and ask. I really do think we will hear more about it in time, Forget flubromazelam. lol Sounds like a bad hole.


I remember this thread. I hope Mac is doing well.

 

[BourbonMac]

I was put back on it after being hospitalized for basically admitting I was suicidal to my audiologist 2 months ago. I didn't seem to have much of a withdrawal, but I take Gabapentin which likely is why, and also dabbled in valerian root and passion flower extract. I wouldn't want to go on a different benzo, Valium is weak but I'd rather take the one that's easier to come off. At the moment, I won't be coming off of it any time soon given the state of things.

A new doctor isn't an easy option with my current insurance. I'm sure he'd be willing to try me on klonopin, but it sounds more addictive to me. I really don't wanna be on the stuff at all but the benefits outweigh the risks for me right now.

 

[Keif' Richards]

I'm not going to lecture you OP, but I'm in the camp of believers that Benzodiazepines are short-term therapy except in statistically rare situations.

Please believe me when I say that this is not meant to be condescending or rude or anything like that. I just want you to hear my opinion. It's an opinion, yes, but it's an opinion formed from years of research and experience.

In your last post, I read "I'm not quitting anytime soon, given the current state of things" or something very similar. Basically, every person that I have ever known who takes Benzodiazepines would say the same thing. They would quit, but they can't because it's just too stressful. Meanwhile, the ups and downs of the Benzodiazepines reinforce this feeling of anxiety. I've yet to meet someone who says they don't regret chronic Benzodiazepine usage who is really being honest about their situation.

I'm not judging you or pretending like I know your whole story or all of the answers, but I am catching you at a good time, when you are in the very early stages of usage. Benzodiazepines are not a chronic treatment for anxiety. They never were. The piper will have to be paid at some point. It only gets more difficult with time.

Your experience is what I would expect given the time you've been on Diazepam (Valium) and the relatively low dosage that you're taking. If anyone were to ask me what to expect, I would say mild insomnia, maybe some temperature intolerance like sweating and some increased anxiety, but nothing that would leave you non-functional or in the nightmare-league of withdrawal that I'm sure you've heard of.

 

[Hex13]

I've been on a semi-large dose of benzodiazapines for 18 years. I don't regret it, though at this point I realize I will have to be on them the rest of my life - or return to chronic alcoholism. The problem explodes when your in a situation and are forced to stop them - jail, loss of doctor - or cut off by doctor, stolen/lost pill bottle, etc. It is a long lasting extreme withdrawal, the worst for me being the extreme Panic.
I don't mind being on Klonopin and temazepam the rest of my life along with the Soma, but I must admit after 18 years of alcoholism (recovering) combined with the benzo use, at 36 years old now - my short term memory is impaired and demensia if I survive that long is one worry I do have.
Its about Quality of life................
I think you should give another benzo a try. Klonopin has a long half life, and I prefer it to xanax, or anything else. They'll start you likely on a ridiculously low dose but work up as needed. I'm on 2 mg tid and Im doing good, I used to be on much more with the booze and other drugs.
If anxiety is your main issue I'd also recommend Paxil, though no other ssri.
Restoril/Temazepam Is a sedative hypnotic benzo for insomnia thats easy to get even if your prescribed another benzo.
You can take it in the day rather than at night if your like me benzo's wake me up rather that put me down.
If any advice is needed hit me up.
And why cant you find a new doctor?
I can help you out with advice on medical assistance/insurance/social services.
pm me if you want.
....Just be careful if you use alcohol because medicinally it is just like a benzo and to become a 24/7 drunk is not that hard and after a year of that the hangovers stop and the delirium tremens begin.
Research this shit on wikipedia

 

[Hex13]

BTW Lyrica kicks Gabapentin's ass.
If insurance doesnt cover it, GOOD RX , it will cost about 25 bux for the max dose 300mg tid.
Claim neuropathy from an injury. Easy as cake to get.

 

[JackARoe]

I was put back on it after being hospitalized for basically admitting I was suicidal to my audiologist 2 months ago.

Yeah man I read some of the posts on tinnitus. I know some members are suffering from it and I have suffered from it at times. Here is what I learned. First off I have not thought of tinnitus in years. But at one point I did think I would go crazy. But here is the catch to remember. It may sound esoteric but it is what helped me. When a person closes his eyes there is not a complete blackness either. There is always static. Same with hearing. I have whistles and gurgles and ringing if I put my focus on it. The white noise concept uses focus as a healer. There is luxurious silence behind the noise. There is luxurious blackness behind the static. But as long as we are in a body there is static and interference.

I am willing to bet Mac if I ask you 3 years from now you will have focused past the tinnitus. Say it is not as relevant. Because life will consume you and your focus will go beyond the static. I think everyone has tinnitus. There is not a word for the visual interference when we close our eyes I don't believe. (maybe CEV) But close your eyes and there is certainly not perfect darkness yet that does not bother us as much.

DMT: next time you take a decent hit. (20 mgs zoots me) you may notice there is no more ringing as your consciousness flies right past the static. Pay attention next time. And feel better about this.

I don't say this stuff lightly. I have been corrected a few times and had lengthy conversations with my friend Chris Timothy. I may have too much of an esoteric view. Maybe there is a drug or something that gets rid of tinnitus. But the white noise concept almost shows it is a focus thing. And we all have it. I did go through a period where I felt like I had to get out of life as the ringing is too much. That was about 25 years ago. So I did totally get past it and tinnitus does not bother me at all and it is for sure there when I look for it.

 

[BK38]

Like really, is there anything I can take to prevent withdrawal? I'm scared. It's not been 48 hours yet and that's the half life, and I do have some kava capsules but I don't think that will get me through this, I don't even have that many. I just can't see how this isn't malpractice. And yeah, I have gabapentin as well, but that doesn't do anything to me because I've been taking it for almost 2 years at 600mg a day. I'm not trying to run my whole script out dealing with this shit. So frustrated

Buy some phenibut and use that instead，or drink alcohol, then you can taper