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diazepam

Hey guys,

I have actually been going through a high anxiety period where I have also been through a few panic attacks here and there due to massive stress. I was just given some diazepam tablets, I hardly dont use them, only if I feel a little bit weird then I only have half (2.5mg). Just curious on the matter, diazepam (valium) does not effect your exercise does it? I mean I have been playing soccer nearly my whole life and still do, if I lets say had some valium early in the day and have it in my blood that wont effect me training or playing soccer in the day or night right? Just curious.

By the way panadol is ok to take with Diazepam, I know this as I was told by the pharmacy.
 
paracetamol is fine i think, however I read in a book on analgesics recently that salicates (including ibuprofen and aspirin aka acetylsalicylic acid) have a potentiating effect on the benzodiazepines. (I'll edit this tommorow to supply a reference and more info.)

Careful with the CNS depressants kids.

:)M:)
 
I dont want this to sound dumb but I would like to know just incase:

I have been going through some high anxiety that does bring upon bad symptoms like short of breath and tightness in the chest, cramps etc.

So lets say I was to go out this weekend on Saturday night, if I do feel a little uncomfortable inside the venue due to sound or ppl or watever the case maybe if I was to have 1 or half a diazepam would that still calm me down in this kind of atmosphere or not?

Just curious, as I want to push myself so I dont end up not going out coz of this uncontrollable anxiety that I am working on and I am getting better obviously.

Hope ppl can let me know, thanks.
 
Interestingly enough, after 2mg of DOI, even at the drop off period, after the terrirying 15 hour ordeal, anxiety was still present at very uncomfortable levels. 30mg dose of Valium knocked SWIM out for about an hour. Then SWIM proceeded to wake up with terribly anxiety and tremors. SWIM had to get rid of this excess tension or he would have to go to the hospital. 2 hours and a bike ride like never before later, SWIM's body was wrecked. Tired and exhausted SWIM could finally rest a bit. A drink later SWIM felt somewhat relaxed and 26 hours after initial ingestion of DOI SWIM found some sleep.

There are somethings that even Diazepam won't relieve...
 
I found a 8 x 5mg diazepams under my bed when I was cleaning my house after few shots of absinthe and decided to take them all as it was my first time taking any benzos for close to 2 months I think and I ended up very "wonky" and was having trouble walking and simply passed out on my bed and woke up very groggy.......

Wasn't fun.
 
Should keep the benzos in smaller dosages... fairly dull if taken for no reason, but when taken (carefully) with other things or for comedowns, they certainly are very useful.
 
bigtones76 said:
Well, as other poster's have commented, Valium does nothing for you when snorted.
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Damn. I wish I had consulted this thread 20 minutes ago before I crushed up two 5mg valium and snorted them.

So it will have NO effect at all? :(

(not feeling much yet)
 
Heh. Well it might do something, because some will drip down your throat and get into your stomach the normal way.

BT :)
 
To me, valium is like pot without the euphoria... but if it's relaxed muscles, lowered eyelids and a carefree afternoon that's required....

You may find diazepam is somewhat first pass dependant; i.e. it has to pass through your liver first, but as BT said, swallowing is possibly a good thing ;)
 
Has anyone got any comparison of the hypnotic effects of this Benzo. compared to say Rohypnol(Flunitrazepam (sp))? (I only have experience with Rohypnol not Valium)
 
BigTrancer said:
Heh. Well it might do something, because some will drip down your throat and get into your stomach the normal way.

BT :)
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LOL. I started snorting back and swallowing desperately to try and achieve just that :D Didn't do shit. I think the glass of wine I drank with it had more effect.

Oh well, a (relatively inexpensive) lesson learned. :)
 
i had to use valium for almost 2 years.Was useing that to ween off muralax,the bigger bang brother of val.Was on four 5mg of val a day,maybe more some days till it was one,then none.Valium is just such a good drug but a BITCH to get off if ur hooked.Hard things and strees become a breeze with a pack of vals in the bag,but should never be used as a tool to get by.
Its great for relaxing and sleep but once u start using to much or big doses at once,u dont realise it but like bt explained the effect of it,the coming days are sometimes so crap that u know that having a val will fix u up again.thats when it gets bad and your dipendent.
all that can be said is take it EASY with benzos.Such a horrible habit to break.
thats my little rammble.

PLH

Chaos:)
 
Any house that has people with non-addictive personalities should have valium.... They can be so handy, especially towards the end of a pill. Get good sleep, wake up feeling good, and too relaxed to bother getting argumentative or anxious... (1/2 usually does it for me).

On the other hand, if you are the over indulgent type keep your distance... Stick to 5htp or a cup of tea!
 
If you use diazepam infrequently.. which it seems you do because you dont seem to know much about it, i would say 20mg would be enough to put you to sleep quite easily, it would be pointless having much more, although i've read of experiences where people have had up to 60mg or more.
you could probably find some information or experiences on erowid.org
personally i've fallen asleep from 10mg before.
and like everyone else said, benzos such as diazepam are highly addictive, so make sure if you're using recreationally its VERY infrequent. my own mother was addicted to diazepam a few years ago and was an a rehab hospital in another state for 6 weeks. i had to live with my grandparents. she was in the same ward as people in rehab for heroin addictions... rehab is a major life disturbance. dont get addicted to benzos.
-dreamzzz
 
dreamzzz; I have at times in the past used large amounts of Valium for short periods. But I disagree completely with your statement that 10-20mg is required to put a non-regular user to sleep.

These days I rarely take the stuff, but even with extreme hypertension, and/ or anxiety, I find a single 2.5mg dose (5mg max) is more than enough to quieten things down and put this 6'3" 92kg dude to sleep. I admit that I don't resort to this means very often, but I don't think you should imply that 10-20mg is an optimum or ideal dose for getting to sleep. It's much too high for an irregular user IMO.
 
OT: Other than for pain, why is a doctor likely to prescribe valium?

If you have trouble sleeping is that likely?
 
^dosage varies WILDLY for benzos because tolerance climbs so easily. Like PD - 2.5mg does me fine. But I have seen people neck 20 or 30 pills and stay standing (VERY dysfunctional people, mind you, but an indication of where you can end up... )

Valium is extremely long lasting - half-life is about 24hrs, so if you take some at night, be careful driving etc even the next day. Check out www.benzo.org.uk for some lovely detailed info.

The other problem with dropping too much Prince Valium & other benzos are the memory blackouts - and getting up to dumb shit which you can't remember ;)


Benzo's are highly associated with increased risk of heroin overdose, so imagine combination with other opiates probably isn't that great either (such as codeine in Panadeine etc); some recent research:

DIETZE, P., JOLLEY, D., FRY, C. & BAMMER, G. (2005) Transient changes in behaviour lead to heroin overdose: results from a case-crossover study of non-fatal overdose. Addiction, 100, 636-642.


ABSTRACT

Background and aims Heroin overdose is a serious consequence of heroin use and one of the leading causes of premature death and illness in Australia. Despite considerable research effort little is known about the effects of transient changes in heroin user behaviour and the links to overdose. This research is the first to use a suitable methodology to allow such ephemeral changes and their effects on non-fatal heroin overdose to be examined.

Methods A case-crossover design was used in which non-fatal heroin overdose survivors' recall of risk behaviours in the 12 hours prior to overdose (hazard period) was compared to their recall of risk behaviours in the 12 hours prior to a selected non-overdose heroin injection (control period).

Results A total of 155 participants were able to provide valid details of hazard and control periods. A doseresponse relationship was observed between the self-reported amount of heroin used and likelihood of overdose (e.g. > AUD50, OR 12.97, 95% CI 2.5466.31). The use of benzodiazepines (OR 28, 95% CI 3.81205.79) or alcohol (OR 2.88, 95% CI 1.296.43), during the hazard period was related to overdose risk , but the effect of alcohol was attenuated by the effect of benzodiazepines. Shifting from private to public locations between control and hazard periods was also related to increased risk of overdose (OR 3.63, 95% CI 1.667.93).

Conclusions We demonstrate the value of a new methodology to explore heroin overdose, as well as discussing its limitations and ways to overcome them in future. In terms of our findings, overdose prevention messages need to highlight the impact of these transient changes in behaviour and to emphasize the risks of using higher doses of heroin as well as continuing to emphasize the risks of combining heroin with other central nervous system (CNS) depressants. Safer environments for heroin use, such as injecting rooms, may also reduce the chances of overdose.

BTW - I think I read a recent thread in Other Drugs that you can mix crushed valium with milk & then plug - the fats in the milk help the valium be absorbed??
 
Winterborn said:
OT: Other than for pain, why is a doctor likely to prescribe valium?

If you have trouble sleeping is that likely?
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Benzo's are not prescribed for pain. They are not painkillers.

Benzodiazepines are prescribed for anxiety and sleep, although if a sleeping pill is all you're after you'll probably get temazepam, which has little recreational value but is useful on a comedown.

Other benzos such as diazepam or oxazepam are prescribed for anxiety. They are not usually recommended to be used every day because of the high risk of addiction. Benzos are really addictive and the effects of benzo addiction can be extremely dangerous, moreso than opiate addiction.

Usually if you go in and say you have long term anxiety problems you'll be given an SSRI. Benzos, because of the risks associated with addiction, are usually only given out on a short term basis with the recommendation that they are only used as required. Situations where a person is prescribed a benzodiazepine might include short term issues such as anxiety relating to severe turmoil. I know one person who was given a valium script because they were trying to quit heroin. Other things might include work related stress and so on.
 
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