yea well a relief of anxiety is a "high" to me
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Benzos Diazepam Withdrawal
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yea well a relief of anxiety is a "high" to me
Eveleivibe
Ex-Bluelighter
Crampz n magic - sorry to hear of your suffering but you should be proud of yourselves that you're sticking with it n it's good to see you're getting lots of support.
Evey x
Evey x
When I was seeing a psychiatrist for my anxiety and getting prescribed xanax for it I mentioned to him that I tried to limit the amount I was taking by waiting until I was really anxious to dose. His reply was that I should be taking the xanax first thing in the morning to prevent the anxiety from even starting, and then to take the other 2-3 pills every 4-6 hours after that to keep the anxiety suppressed.
He was the first doctor that I went to for my anxiety and the one that started me on xanax without ever discussing dependence or addiction to it, or if I ever wanted to taper off of it. He would just write the script after a 5 minute visit, and all he would ask was if I was taking medicine regularly, how it was working for me, and if there were any major changes to report.
After 3 or 4 years of getting xanax from him I switched to another doctor to taper me off of xanax by using valium, and then after continuing my taper with my school psychiatrist since I had gone away to school, I had to go back to the first doctor again after returning home and not being able to see the other psychiatrist that had switched me to the valium since he didn't take my insurance.
I tried to finish my taper since I was down to between 0.25mg and 0.5mg of valium, but then I couldn't get off of it and my anxiety got worse since I had no scheduled routine in place after finishing college and returning home so I had the doctor up my valium dose to 5mg a day. Then after a few months I was back up to 10mg a day, and after a little more than a year on that dose I went down to 7.5mg a day where I stayed until I went to the detox in the beginning of the summer, and got off of benzos for good then.
That sounds like a pretty solid benzo taper. 10 days in between each 2.5mg step is about right. When you get to the end taking 2.5 every other day for another 10 days can be helpful.
chrisone87
Bluelighter
benzo wds always suck. do what you gotta do to feel better.
MagickalKat777
Bluelight Crew
I decided to hold out... I will make my next 1.25mg cut on Thursday.
I really wish I could sleep though. I have been falling asleep around 12 or 1, sometimes later, then not waking up til between 9 and 11PM no matter what is going on around me.
It doesn't help that my next cut is off of my night dose as well.
I really wish I could sleep though. I have been falling asleep around 12 or 1, sometimes later, then not waking up til between 9 and 11PM no matter what is going on around me.
It doesn't help that my next cut is off of my night dose as well.
Periactin works wonders!
MagickalKat777
Bluelight Crew
I'm extremely sensitive to mAChR inhibitors. I've never had that one but I can't imagine it being any better than hydroxyzine, DPH, or cyclizine, all of which I'm hypersensitive to. I have trazodone but that's been known to be a trigger for hypomania for me even though I don't exhibit bipolar traits when I'm sober plus when it doesn't work I end up with a crappy mCPP buzz on top of my insomnia.
hmmm.. I cut down to 10mg a few days ago and I just noticed that my fingers sometimes shake pretty violently. Also, I am verging on feeling suicidally depressed.
Does anyone know whether this is strictly due to benzo withdrawal? Or could it be from not drinking too? Or a combination of factors? Or is it nothing to do with neurochemistry and its because my life is a fucking mess ( I actually laughed when i wrote the last bit, because it is so very true).
Does anyone know whether this is strictly due to benzo withdrawal? Or could it be from not drinking too? Or a combination of factors? Or is it nothing to do with neurochemistry and its because my life is a fucking mess ( I actually laughed when i wrote the last bit, because it is so very true).
MagickalKat777
Bluelight Crew
All of the above contribute. Just hang in there. This too shall pass! That's what I keep telling myself and it is keeping me going...
Eveleivibe
Ex-Bluelighter
Sorry I really don't know but I assume it may be a bit of both. Sorry the withdrawals are bad for you at mo. hope you feel better soon xxx
I always had hand tremors while I was on benzos (obv would go away when I took a higher dose, but I never noticed them before I started taking it). How are they shaking? Like for me it was mostly just that when I held my hand out and opened my hand up tight so my fingers were pointed out, they would move a little bit as if they were vibrating badly or something. It was only when I had a really bad xanax habit and would be between doses that my hands would shake a lot, so much so that I couldn't even pour myself a drink, and forget it when I was in my chemistry lab at school and needed to pour out an accurate dose. This was during my taper, and my lab partner quickly learned that he was going to be the one doing all of the accurate dosing from then on.
How much and how often do you drink?
Yeah thats exactly it, when I hold my hand out and spread my fingers slightly, they sometimes start shaking very noticeably, not like a tiny tremor, it is extremely noticeable.
I was drinking very heavily, but that was about 5 weeks ago (maybe 2 bottles of wine a day and that went on for a few months but previously to that, like years ago it was a bottle of vodka everyday).
I was drinking very heavily, but that was about 5 weeks ago (maybe 2 bottles of wine a day and that went on for a few months but previously to that, like years ago it was a bottle of vodka everyday).
^ The booze has got to go man. Maybe take a bit more valium for a few days after you stop drinking, and then start to go back down. I'm a lot less anxious and depressed since I stopped other drugs. I actually never drank after my benzo detox because I never want to have to face a hangover without any benzos since I know how horrible my anxiety would be.
^ I've stopped drinking, I haven't had a drink in maybe 5 weeks? but since previously to that it was extremely heavy drinking I wondered whether it could still be affecting me. That is something I have thought about though - it is christmas coming up etc and I have no idea how I'm going to handle that without drinking, but I also know the effects of benzo tapering would make the 'hangover' that much worse!
But since this shaking started 3 days after my last cut (i.e saturday), would it be an idea to hold for a lil longer than until saturday to cut anotrher 1.25mg?
But since this shaking started 3 days after my last cut (i.e saturday), would it be an idea to hold for a lil longer than until saturday to cut anotrher 1.25mg?
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MagickalKat777
Bluelight Crew
Hang in there man. I'm worried about the holidays too. Its going to take all of my strength to make it through the holidays but I'm seeing January coming up and I can't wait til I can jump off these pills and experience sobriety for the first time in 9 years so I'm going to keep fighting.
I've heard suggestions that if you're having a rough time with your taper, you can do a booster every other day if needed to try to minimize the withdrawal. If you're that miserable, it might be worth considering adding like an extra quarter of a pill or so every other day.
Just try to stay positive and stick with it. Hold your dose for a bit if you have to. I switched my schedule to 10 days instead of 7 and its making a big difference in tolerability having those extra 3 days without adding too much extra time to my taper. I couldn't handle the insomnia anymore.
I've heard suggestions that if you're having a rough time with your taper, you can do a booster every other day if needed to try to minimize the withdrawal. If you're that miserable, it might be worth considering adding like an extra quarter of a pill or so every other day.
Just try to stay positive and stick with it. Hold your dose for a bit if you have to. I switched my schedule to 10 days instead of 7 and its making a big difference in tolerability having those extra 3 days without adding too much extra time to my taper. I couldn't handle the insomnia anymore.
^^ thanks! that might be a good idea actually, ill see how it goes! It is definately unnerving to see my hand fucking spasming like that! I also hate the psychological 'restlessness' that seems to kick in a couple of hours before i am due to take the next dose but it seems to come in waves, my mood is all over the place.
Good to hear holding your dose is working better for you, that insomnia you described sounds intolerable... I picked up some diphenhydramine today to help with sleep but I'm really having second thoughts about using it.
I think I agree about sobriety, but to be fair, I dont think I even really remember what it is like to be sober so its going to be a new experience for me (that sounds awful). How much are you on at the moment?
Good to hear holding your dose is working better for you, that insomnia you described sounds intolerable... I picked up some diphenhydramine today to help with sleep but I'm really having second thoughts about using it.
I think I agree about sobriety, but to be fair, I dont think I even really remember what it is like to be sober so its going to be a new experience for me (that sounds awful). How much are you on at the moment?
MagickalKat777
Bluelight Crew
lol you and me both. I haven't been sober a single day since 2004 if you count benzos... and I don't think I've gone more than a month with no alcohol since I started drinking at 17.
I'm holding at 10mg right now. Next 1.25mg cut is coming on the 24th.
I'm holding at 10mg right now. Next 1.25mg cut is coming on the 24th.
well, you are not alone, I am on the same dose and just looking at my lil benzo supply, we are planning on making the next cut on the same day! I want to make the next 1 a week afterwards because I have busy stuff to do beginning/mid december and i wont be making any cuts for a couple of weeks then, so I want to get down to 7.5mg for a week or so before the busy few weeks start.