dimensiontripping
Bluelighter
I have done 4-fa/mdma combos before but I have no done it with mdma/mda pills. This happened recently on saturday night so it is fresh in my mind. It ended up being too much and I was rather uncomfortable for most of the night.
24yr old, 5'6" 135lb Male. Don't need to list off a huge drug list, I'll just say I am experienced.
630pm - 9pm on my way home from work, I took 15mg of diazepam to lighten my mood after a long day at work and help with my pain management (the reason I take it about 1-2x a week at this dose). I had dinner with my girlfriend and my room-mate and another friend came over. We watched the sunset on our roof and can see the massive skyline that is about a few miles west of us glistening with evening light as it bounces off the steel and the glass of the city.
9pm - valium is very evident and we head out to a bar before we go to an event near midtown of the city. I really enjoy mixing valium with alcohol. It is one my favorite combinations of substances. I do not like alcohol much at all alone and valium alone can also just make me feel lethargic in a boring way.
1030pm - I take 70mg of 4-fa. This is a new batch I have not yet taken. I am very familiar with 4-fa and have taken it many times, always ends up being in combination with another substance at some point in the night. I like it as it gives mdma/mda a good amphetamine push and I dont end up lookling like a puddle on the floor.
1130pm - I am just finishing up a strong margarita and I take 120mg of MDMA and 60mg of MDA in one pill. The 4-fa does not feel that strong at this point but looking back, I do not think I waited long enough to feel the effects completely. We decide to head out to the party.
1215am - We get the event and immediately as I pay for my entry, I start to realize I am going to be rolling very hard. I dont feel rushes or anything, I actually feel just overwhelmed. At this point, I almost immediately have memory issues
1245am - I remember sitting down and being totally loaded. I am sweating way too hard for the current temperature inside the club. like embarrassing. Some pictures are taken of us three and I can totally mashed.
130am - I have to be escorted around the venue because the magenta lighting and the fog machines make me so confused. I would definitely be getting lost. The three of us (female is on 140mg of 4-fa and the male is on same dosage as me) decide to use the photobooth to take some pictures. It takes us over 10 minutes to operate this thing. I cannot think straight. But what is strange is that normally at this point of cognitive dissonance on just MDMA, my eyes are intensely rolling and my tactile sensation is highly increased but I do not feel either of these things. I start to realize I am beginning to hallucinate. I saw flying toasters, people that were not there, I was beginning to enter a completely different reality and was losing touch with where I was. I barely had any eye wiggling and I realized that the MDA was the strongest substance in my system at 60mg. The performers were losing their dimensionality and everything was flattening. I remember this happening on MDA before. The last time I took it before this was very early 2009.
200am - I have to get out of this place. My friend, who took the same dose as me, weighs exactly the same, seems to be ok and gets us out. It seems like it takes forever and is like a maze. I realize I had literally chewed a hole into my right cheek but I cant feel my face really.
215-300am - I decide I need to walk it off. I have a cigarette, which i normally do not have and it actually helps me a lot and restores my ability to think. I walk like 40 blocks with my girlfriend and just talk about a lot of things. We have have been dating for 5 years and we are not sure if we should continue dating but we actually saw eye to eye and we both have been thinking about how our future is going to unfold. This was by far the most beneficial part of the evening and it has had a lasting impact the days after. Time is compressing like crazy. Sidewalk lines are shifting, lights are doubling, I can barely see anything within a few feet of my face. my eyes are complete saucers.
345am - I get home and I am totally toast. Everything is starting to wear off. I take a shower with my girlfriend and what would normally be the sexy part of the evening turns into me pleasuring her but I dont have much positive body sensation. just total drainage. I go at her for about half hour and just have to give up. Cant keep it up, cant focus, not worth it. This is disappointing as most nights we indulge in amphetamines this is a staple portion of the evening.
430am - I take 2.5 grams of GHB and immediately go to bed. I fall asleep so fast, its shocking.
915am - I wake up because I have to work a really long day. I know, stupid. Its a sunday but I have work responsibilities. My eyes are still huge and I wake up fucked up and not rested at all. I think the only reason I made it through the day was because I still had amphetamines in my system. no appetite the entire day. I forced myself to eat a huge sandwich around 4pm.
Overall, I totally overshot what my dose should have been. I was not present enough emotionally or physically for it to be fun with friends and the side effects from the MDA visual and hallucinations were way too much. Not even patterns, im talking like psychosis style sight seeings. Not something I enjoy.
I love the 4-fa mdma combo but I normally take about 80mg of 4-fa with a medium dose MDMA pill that is verified. This time, I gauged what I thought would be a strong but good dose and over did it. I recommend combining 4-fa and mdma but not this. This was way too much and out of the 50+ times I have taken MDMA and its equivalents over the past 10 or so years, I hardly ever over do it. The products I got I can verify are nearly completely pure. MDA is REALLY STRONG. BE CAREFUL. Next time, I would dose 50mg of 4-fa, wait 90 minutes and then do a 100mg MDMA/50mg MDMA or simply a 150mg MDMA pill. I would forget the diazepam and even the 1 alcoholic drink.
The one great thing after this mess was I barely had any comedown to speak of. I was tired and still a bit on drugs the next day, but the following day, monday, I was pretty much fine and just tired. I was really lazy but no deep depression or terrible zaps. I attribute this to the purity of the product I took. Normally I take some type of empathogen once a month but I feel like I need to wait atleast 8 weeks after this for my mind to settle and not to lost magic/cause damage.
Be safe and be careful with MDA dosage. I learned the hard way. In the end, I did not even enjoy it that much. I think I will stick to 4-fa + mdma or just take MDA alone and see what that is like sometime.
On a side note - My girlfriend took 70mg 4-fa 3x spaced out by 2.5 hours each. She felt great but the next day - she was blacking out when she stood up multiple times. Was too weak to walk up stairs and slept basically the entire day. She was extremely dizzy. She is just as experienced with 4-fa as I am and I found this EXTREMELY alarming. I found some other people online who had this reaction but it seemed unusual. Anyone have any experience with this? Clearly we both overdid it and normally we are very good about dosing. I think I am not used to the purity of the product we received and was over zealous with the MDA dosage.
24yr old, 5'6" 135lb Male. Don't need to list off a huge drug list, I'll just say I am experienced.
630pm - 9pm on my way home from work, I took 15mg of diazepam to lighten my mood after a long day at work and help with my pain management (the reason I take it about 1-2x a week at this dose). I had dinner with my girlfriend and my room-mate and another friend came over. We watched the sunset on our roof and can see the massive skyline that is about a few miles west of us glistening with evening light as it bounces off the steel and the glass of the city.
9pm - valium is very evident and we head out to a bar before we go to an event near midtown of the city. I really enjoy mixing valium with alcohol. It is one my favorite combinations of substances. I do not like alcohol much at all alone and valium alone can also just make me feel lethargic in a boring way.
1030pm - I take 70mg of 4-fa. This is a new batch I have not yet taken. I am very familiar with 4-fa and have taken it many times, always ends up being in combination with another substance at some point in the night. I like it as it gives mdma/mda a good amphetamine push and I dont end up lookling like a puddle on the floor.
1130pm - I am just finishing up a strong margarita and I take 120mg of MDMA and 60mg of MDA in one pill. The 4-fa does not feel that strong at this point but looking back, I do not think I waited long enough to feel the effects completely. We decide to head out to the party.
1215am - We get the event and immediately as I pay for my entry, I start to realize I am going to be rolling very hard. I dont feel rushes or anything, I actually feel just overwhelmed. At this point, I almost immediately have memory issues
1245am - I remember sitting down and being totally loaded. I am sweating way too hard for the current temperature inside the club. like embarrassing. Some pictures are taken of us three and I can totally mashed.
130am - I have to be escorted around the venue because the magenta lighting and the fog machines make me so confused. I would definitely be getting lost. The three of us (female is on 140mg of 4-fa and the male is on same dosage as me) decide to use the photobooth to take some pictures. It takes us over 10 minutes to operate this thing. I cannot think straight. But what is strange is that normally at this point of cognitive dissonance on just MDMA, my eyes are intensely rolling and my tactile sensation is highly increased but I do not feel either of these things. I start to realize I am beginning to hallucinate. I saw flying toasters, people that were not there, I was beginning to enter a completely different reality and was losing touch with where I was. I barely had any eye wiggling and I realized that the MDA was the strongest substance in my system at 60mg. The performers were losing their dimensionality and everything was flattening. I remember this happening on MDA before. The last time I took it before this was very early 2009.
200am - I have to get out of this place. My friend, who took the same dose as me, weighs exactly the same, seems to be ok and gets us out. It seems like it takes forever and is like a maze. I realize I had literally chewed a hole into my right cheek but I cant feel my face really.
215-300am - I decide I need to walk it off. I have a cigarette, which i normally do not have and it actually helps me a lot and restores my ability to think. I walk like 40 blocks with my girlfriend and just talk about a lot of things. We have have been dating for 5 years and we are not sure if we should continue dating but we actually saw eye to eye and we both have been thinking about how our future is going to unfold. This was by far the most beneficial part of the evening and it has had a lasting impact the days after. Time is compressing like crazy. Sidewalk lines are shifting, lights are doubling, I can barely see anything within a few feet of my face. my eyes are complete saucers.
345am - I get home and I am totally toast. Everything is starting to wear off. I take a shower with my girlfriend and what would normally be the sexy part of the evening turns into me pleasuring her but I dont have much positive body sensation. just total drainage. I go at her for about half hour and just have to give up. Cant keep it up, cant focus, not worth it. This is disappointing as most nights we indulge in amphetamines this is a staple portion of the evening.
430am - I take 2.5 grams of GHB and immediately go to bed. I fall asleep so fast, its shocking.
915am - I wake up because I have to work a really long day. I know, stupid. Its a sunday but I have work responsibilities. My eyes are still huge and I wake up fucked up and not rested at all. I think the only reason I made it through the day was because I still had amphetamines in my system. no appetite the entire day. I forced myself to eat a huge sandwich around 4pm.
Overall, I totally overshot what my dose should have been. I was not present enough emotionally or physically for it to be fun with friends and the side effects from the MDA visual and hallucinations were way too much. Not even patterns, im talking like psychosis style sight seeings. Not something I enjoy.
I love the 4-fa mdma combo but I normally take about 80mg of 4-fa with a medium dose MDMA pill that is verified. This time, I gauged what I thought would be a strong but good dose and over did it. I recommend combining 4-fa and mdma but not this. This was way too much and out of the 50+ times I have taken MDMA and its equivalents over the past 10 or so years, I hardly ever over do it. The products I got I can verify are nearly completely pure. MDA is REALLY STRONG. BE CAREFUL. Next time, I would dose 50mg of 4-fa, wait 90 minutes and then do a 100mg MDMA/50mg MDMA or simply a 150mg MDMA pill. I would forget the diazepam and even the 1 alcoholic drink.
The one great thing after this mess was I barely had any comedown to speak of. I was tired and still a bit on drugs the next day, but the following day, monday, I was pretty much fine and just tired. I was really lazy but no deep depression or terrible zaps. I attribute this to the purity of the product I took. Normally I take some type of empathogen once a month but I feel like I need to wait atleast 8 weeks after this for my mind to settle and not to lost magic/cause damage.
Be safe and be careful with MDA dosage. I learned the hard way. In the end, I did not even enjoy it that much. I think I will stick to 4-fa + mdma or just take MDA alone and see what that is like sometime.
On a side note - My girlfriend took 70mg 4-fa 3x spaced out by 2.5 hours each. She felt great but the next day - she was blacking out when she stood up multiple times. Was too weak to walk up stairs and slept basically the entire day. She was extremely dizzy. She is just as experienced with 4-fa as I am and I found this EXTREMELY alarming. I found some other people online who had this reaction but it seemed unusual. Anyone have any experience with this? Clearly we both overdid it and normally we are very good about dosing. I think I am not used to the purity of the product we received and was over zealous with the MDA dosage.
