Diablo Legal Pills (Yes another thread like this...)

[misteee]

a serious question about BZP,

piperazines in alot of street pills marketed as ecstasy, as most of you know. unsure of the doesages along with the cutting agents and binding products, what is a legal pill (in few countries) containing BZP like??
i mean i am well aware of the effects the average shit pill on our australian streets containing (some form of piperazine) giving one, the shakes, vomiting, heart palipations etc....
does a party pill containing BZP do the same?? might sound silly but, in theory for this shit to have smashed the streets world wide, some of it must be similar to mdma?? yes i have consumed mdma and i am very well aware of mdma, just havent consumed BZP

thanks guys, been thinking bout this all day at work so ya's should let me know

 

[xtc123]

from what I know misteee, it's just a light alternate that comes with bad effects, im guessing BZP is worse.

 

[thestudent14]

I think this is best described with a report I once saw Ekstasis do on Hells Kitchen' pills.

From Ekstasis http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=20051

Stupidly I did not test these pills before eating. I trusted a friend who had eaten one who I thought knew the taste and feeling of pierazines pretty well as he had been to hospital before from intentionally taking piperazines and getting a massively high heart rate. He also said he had tested but he is new to testing pills and only had Marquis & Mandelin.

I chewed one pill up on an empty stomach. Becuase my friend was on these I was not tasting for piperazines. I tasted the sweet/fizzing then after ages a very mild bitter sassafras type taste and thought they were speed bombs with maybe a tiny bit of MDxx. I quickly swalled a 2nd pill before realising my tongue was really numb and there was the really vile taste that was not like MDxx in my mouth. I couldn't wash the taste away.

2 girls I was with had each eaten one pill around 10mins before me. After maybe 20mins I felt nausious. I've never felt nausia like this on pills before. I had to go to the bathroom. There was wave after wave of burning intense nausia that felt like I had been poisoned. Each wave of burning nausia made my head feel hot and sweat then subside a little. It was nausia like the time I had eaten too many Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds and got really sick. This was not like any pill I have had in my years of experience. I am generally a hard head when it comes to pills. A friend came an rubbed my shoulder in the bathroom and this helped me relax and the nausia die down a little. On the rushes of intence nausia my hands got pins and needles or a tingling like when you hit your elbow or funny bone. My hands then siezed up like claws.

Earlier on I talked to my friend after I realised the taste could well be piperazine and he now came and saw me in the bathroom and quite sick. He offered to get me some Xanax to wich I said yes as I had done my research and knew benzos are the best thing to get rid of the nasty piperazine effects. I had to get him to break it up for me and for the 2 girls I was with. I had 0.5mg and they had around 0.25mg each. This really helped calm the nausia. I noticed before leaving the club I would see things sometimes out of the corner of my eye. I also noticed the girls I was with had this or other trippy effects. My vision was quite blurred and I was very smashed. My memory was not good and this was far more smashed and scary than any pill I had had before. Any negative thoughts and anxiety would bring some nausious feeling back.

After talking with the girls they decided they just wanted to be home in bed. We got a taxi home. I forgot things and didn't feel well but was so thankful my friend had had the xanax on him.

After getting home I took another .5mg of Xanax then later another .5mg or more. I was surprised that I needed so much Xanax to even barely make me sleepy. I would normally sleep for 14 hrs with a smaller dose. I awoke after only 7 hrs and felt jittery/speedy. Over the next day and a half I forced myself to sleep and recover. Two days later I felt okay again.


CONCLUSION: FROM TESTING AND EATING THESE PILLS THEY SEEM TO CONTAIN A FARILY STRONG DOSE OF PIPERAZINES. BE WARNED PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM PIPERAZINES (USUALLY IN COMBINATION WITH MDXX) AND MANY HAVE BEEN HOSPITALISED. THE EFFECTS OF PIPERAZINES CAN BE VERY UNPLEASANT AND DANGEROUS! MY RECCOMENDATION IS DO NOT EAT!!

In short, Pipes suck!
They can mimic MDMA euphoria but come with terrible side affects, I've only had a pipes pill once, had a sweet time for about an hour. After that I had a vicious head ache, sweats and all the rest. I found it quite barable, but I pity the fool who has two at the same time.

Minor doses it can be okay provided you don't mind feeling sick and sore aswell as euphoric haha.

 

[misteee]

thanks ts14, was very curious about the whole concept of pipz, i mean i consider myself extremely lucky to have not been stung with a pipe pill, i always test and taste b4 consumption plus i gave up on the adelaide pill scene quite some time ago now

 

[weallmissmdma]

My prework out drink contains argine alpha ketoglurate, creatine, beta alanine, caffeine, 1 3 dimethyamlymamine (dmma) and shizandrol. 3 scoops of this shit will have you charging for 12 hours... honestly cannot tell the difference between it and speed... doesnt give the caffeine jitters just makes you feel relaxed and really chargy. Never tried the dmma on its own but...

The prework out drink is rated one of the best but very very soon dmma will be illegal in australia... so that means ive got to stock up on the prework out drink.... its also about 10x cheaper then diable pills LOL!

 

[belarki]

^ Pretty sure I know the supplement you're talking about, there are a couple on the market at the moment with very similar ingredients. Does yours list the mg amounts of active ingredients (such as caffeine)? or just note it as a total figure for a "proprietary blend"?

The supplier of the more widely available product also had a much-touted diet pill available here that's just been pulled from shelves locally because it apparently had yohimbe as an unlisted ingredient.

Anyway I digress In my expereince there's a huge difference between DMAA-containing products and speed. Maybe those products just don't agree with me well but they tend to make me jittery, anxious, sweaty and nauseous. I've tried a good half dozen of them along with pure DMAA over the years.