DHEA, GHB & bodybuilding

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I just had some dhea for the 1st time and I was wondering about an erowid report I just read where they said body builders where taking high doses to replace steroids and GHB.
What exactly does it mean to replace GHB, like as the fat burner during workouts and sleep, or something else?
Anyways I cannot really get the answer quickly with google, is it just nonsense?
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hi,

i think this would be better suited for Steroid Discussion.

hope someone can answer you there.
 
It probably only revolves around the fat burner, or more so if it builds muscle mass then it will reduce fat.
I never have taken G, but I do take gabapentin every day, I kind of would like to try it I guess or I find it fascinating.
 
Taken dhea and ghb and wellllll ahhhh it most 110% does not replace the effects of each other. (scratching head, stupid look on my face trying to connect dots that never will)

Dhea is an analog for testosterone and estrogen and so on but never seen, read, or heard of anyone having good/great/worth mentioning results with DHEA.
 
This is not related at all to the fatburning or bodybuilding aspect

THIS IS ABOUT GETTING LOADED, plastered blasted fucked mashed smashed tore-up etc.

I once recently was using black cohosh(possible estrogen booster) as a hypnotic is why I found this interesting.

reading some pubmed stuff about SIGMA helping NMDA excitotoxcity, maybe this is some how a clue as to how megnesium, could be "natural benzo" if DHEA is made in colesterol.
(should this maybe be moved to ADD?)
 
DJHENRU said:
This is not related at all to the fatburning or bodybuilding aspect

THIS IS ABOUT GETTING LOADED, plastered blasted fucked mashed smashed tore-up etc.
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You've come to the wrong place then.

GHB had supposed anabolic benefits in the early 90's, though it was proven that GH does indeed get elevated while you're knocked out on it. Problem here is, GH alone is completely and utterly useless without nutrients and heavy lifting.

DHEA is pretty much a health food store rip off for those who are too big of pussies to run real gear, but insist on not staying natty. I can assure you, there are no mind altering benefits in DHEA.
 
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Well I was more meaning to take it for memory, anyways it was cheap
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Way better options out there.


I wouldn't be surprised if some of that shit converted directly to estrogen.

As far as using black cohosh as a hypnotic, what the fuck? That's for postmenopausal women bro. Get yourself a case of Budweisers and call it a night.
 
I duno I ate 60 50 mg tabs in like 6 days at 4 dollars I guess it didnt do shit.
I dont really care much about muscle mass, Im already the skinniest person I know.
I do however care about having a good metabolism.

I duno I got one pimple and my voice may have once or twice seemed.
but yeah I dont want to drink alcohol I already have gabapentin, I eat lots of valarian etc.

I just found black cohosh usefull on Poppyseed tea once or twice helped the hypnotic nod oddly(I guess opiods change hormone levels as well and black cohosh effect opiod receptors.)

Im sorry alcohol just is fucking nasty seeming, I became a pretty fucking hardcore alcoholic a few years ago, so I avoid it.
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DJHENRU said:
I duno I ate 60 50 mg tabs in like 6 days at 4 dollars I guess it didnt do shit.
I dont really care much about muscle mass, Im already the skinniest person I know.
I do however care about having a good metabolism.

I duno I got one pimple and my voice may have once or twice seemed.
but yeah I dont want to drink alcohol I already have gabapentin, I eat lots of valarian etc.

I just found black cohosh usefull on Poppyseed tea once or twice helped the hypnotic nod oddly(I guess opiods change hormone levels as well and black cohosh effect opiod receptors.)

Im sorry alcohol just is fucking nasty seeming, I became a pretty fucking hardcore alcoholic a few years ago, so I avoid it.
PLUR
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If you just want a metabolic boost, eat small frequent meals, keep your BF% low, and lay off all CNS depressants including opiates, benzos, barbs, and natural shit. I know that coke and meth speed the metabolism up but not in a good way.
 
Hey DJ, I did the GHB/Gear and bodybuilding route back in 2002-2003 and it definitely worked well in helping me get that extra rem sleep so my body could heal from workouts faster. I also kept alot of the mass in my chest and shoulders I gained when I was on daily GHB dosing. Even when I was dieting bigtime and even doing heavy coke later on in that year. The GHB dosing daily helped me to keep alot of my mass instead of just losing everything cause I wasn't eating hardly anything.

Its great stuff for those applications. But for me I got addicted to it big time. Even though some people say it isn't addicting. For me I was heavily addicted to that awesome feeling and the absolute amazing sleep I could get with Gina!! I wish today I could just use it for sleep because it really is a miracle substance for the best and deepest sleeps I have ever had. I was a big-time Gina fanatic!! Its good stuff and its actually good for your body, I had a natropath doctor at a drug rehab I went to in Arizona tell me that it is good for us!!! Don't believe what the government tells you, its all BS propaganda just like everything else.
 
I think it also produces an 'opposing' hormone (for want of a better word), prolactin, cancelling out any fat burning or anabolic effects. Really it is just about getting high IMO.

However I believe humans in general have an innate desire to get high, and if you can safely use an alternative to alcohol it could indirectly help you with your bodybuilding. GHB is a poor choice though, because the difference between a dose that gives a high and the dose that kills you is so narrow.

There are better alternatives. If you want to gain extra muscle or lose some more fat concentrate on the basic fundamental belt and braces approaches that have been shown to work in the real world.

Sorry I haven't read about all this in years so I'm a bit rusty.
 
DJHENRU said:
I just had some dhea for the 1st time and I was wondering about an erowid report I just read where they said body builders where taking high doses to replace steroids and GHB.
What exactly does it mean to replace GHB, like as the fat burner during workouts and sleep, or something else?
Anyways I cannot really get the answer quickly with google, is it just nonsense?
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GHB was a popular drug with the body building community because it helped growth hormones/recovery time (allegedly) and also help regulate sleep cycles and improve sleep quality.
 
DJHENRU said:
This is not related at all to the fatburning or bodybuilding aspect

THIS IS ABOUT GETTING LOADED, plastered blasted fucked mashed smashed tore-up etc.
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DJHENRU said:
I duno I ate 60 50 mg tabs in like 6 days
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Disgusting.

Make another thread if you wish to discuss DHEA and GHB. Keep your get loaded attitude with no regard for you health the fuck out of here.
 
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