Dexedrine vs Adderall

[JTMarlin]

Adderall contains different SALTS of amphetamines, not just the sulphate form, and that's what makes it long-acting. I like Dexedrine because it's on amphetamine salt, and straight d-amphetamine. It's time-tested, patient-proven, and not marketed like candy towards kids like ADDerall. All Adderall did was create a new reason to start profiting off amphetamines again. Hell, I know a lot of people who would have never even tried amphetamines without the mass marketing of Adderall. Dexedrine was second to Ritalin before 1996. Now Adderall is number one, Dexedrine is still relatively unknown and better than Adderall, Ritalin is just a shitty alternative, and Desoxyn is unknown and desired.

The only thing taking Xanax (I'd go for Valium, but anyways) with those stimulants is going to is: A. increase your amphetamine tolerance B. create a worse, stronger, and physical addiction to benzos. C. Make everything right now even worse. Upper+Downer combos are a God-send temporarily, I know, but look at the long term problems before getting addicted to Xanax. I can get all the Dexedrine and Valium/Xanax I want from a doctor, but all it is going to do is hurt me in the future. Atleast you're eating 70mg a day of oral pharmaceutical amphetamines than snorting or smoking 200mg of illegal methamphetamine.

 

[vicodelicious]

In my opinion, Dexadrine is FAR superior than Adderall. Dex is purely d-amphetamine.

I get all shaky and nervous on Adderall, which is a mixture of amphetamine salts.

Not a big fan of amps, but Dexadrine all the way if you're going that route. Much more euphoric for me as well.

 

[JTMarlin]

Yeah, me too...Dexedrine lacks the l-amphetamine that is there solely to give you the jitters. or "PNS Stimulation". Most people I know who take it after taking Adderall for awhile say they feel cracked out on it. IMO, you should switch to it once you aren't getting the effects from Adderall anymore. But I would have skipped taking Adderall had I known about Dexedrine first.

 

[EllisD.yeahit'sme.]

yes indeedy, thankie for the advice JT.

but uh....heh...i kinda' know all about benzo addictions...noooo fun.

went to not one, but two rehabs within two months of the end of the first for benzo-related "accidents" on my part....no need to mention those.

yeah, it really would be nice to be able to get to sleep before 2a.m., as the mirtazapine doesn't help me get to sleep AT FUCKING ALL (grrr) and ambien never really kept me asleep....

....but what were we talking about?

ah yessum, tweak. twack. twizzle-twazzle.

heh. aaaaaanxious!

man.

i need some xanax.

buh. circular logic. dexedrine was the first (illicit) stimulant i tried, and had i tried adderall (boo this drug!) first, might not have gotten so outta' sync with my internal-stoner.

boooooo....need sleepy.

 

[Adam X]

The name brand Dexedrine tablets made by GSK are way better than the generic, at lease the ones made by Barr. I've done blind "taste tests" of each (with help) and 100% of the time I can point out the real Dexedrine from the generic shit. I have way more side effects with the generic, and they just feel weak.


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[Adam X]

The only difference is inactive ingredients, binders/fillers, and shape/size.

I disagree. Each company might have 5mg of dextroamphetamine sulfate but where did this come from? Who synthed it? From what starting materials? What about the fillers? What about contamination from other chemicals pressed in the same factory?

Even all things being equal, I don't like the generic dextroamphetamine tablets. I get more frequent and intense headaches, more dizziness and they take way longer to peak onset. I trust GSK becuase they've been making and selling Dexedrine since long before any of us were born.


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[StupidMoFo]

because of your current prescription you would have no problem getting xanax i bet.


I'm scripted xanax now, due to the large amount of dexedrine. - its a dream to take off the edge and some of the over-focousing.

I got a lecture on how xanax has the possibility of addiction etc. etc.
which was kinda amusing...seing as they have never even mentioned that word assoicated with my ADD meds lol.

My doctor won't prescribe benzos because of addiction but she had no problem switching me from adderall sr 10mg x 3 morning and x 2 lunch and offered me 2x 15mg dexedrine morning 1 x 15mg afternoon. After I've obviously lost alot of weight in a short amount of time, she called it normal 8). I'm going to continually complain about my lack of sleep until they give me some sort of benzo alternative or something. They're trying to give me anti depressants to help the anxiety and sleeping issues.

 

[nopain]

making the switch

If you don't then you have no worries. Anyways, yes, it is better in almost every way. It's like Adderall, without the racing heart, jitters, etc...basically, it only effects the peripheral nervous system. The name brand tablets and capsules are better than the generics...don't even go for generic, besides, if you don't have insurance I think it costs less for brand name Dexedrine than generic Adderall. A combination of tablets and capsules is what you will want. If you take, say 40mg of Adderall tablets you'll want 2x15mg Dexedrine Spansules and 2x5mg tablets.

JT- If I am making the switch to Dexedrine and I am currently prescribed 40mg of Adderall 20mg in the am and 20mg in early afternoon, how would I take the combo you speak about? Would you take a 15mg Spansule and a 5mg tablet in the am and then early afternoon take the others or would you take both 15mg Spansules in the morning and supplement with the 5mg tablets 1 in am and 1 in early afternoon? In other words how would you take this combo if you were switching?

Thanks for you insight and help.

 

[JTMarlin]

I would take a 15mg+5mg tablet in the morning, like you said. You can mix and match if you want. Take a 15mg+2x5mg tablets in the morning and another 15mg later on. Or, like you said, take the 30mg in Spansules in the morning and the 10mg when that's wearing off. I like the tablets to supplement the Spansules because they even out the peaking plasma levels. You might even want to try 2x10mg Spansules daily and 4x5mg tablets daily. I sure wish GSK would come back out with 10mg brand name Dexedrine tabs, since it's kind of annoying having to get 150+ pills in a month. But they're cheap in brand form, so it's still cheaper than Adderall will be...even 60 10mg Spansules and 120 5mg tablets. As long as you have no problem taking the little orange triangles I'd go with the 10mg x 2 daily+5mg x 4 daily, since you can take 1x10mg and 2x5mg twice a day, in the morning and afternoon.

 

[ADDerall]

Damn, I need to take a few adderall's just to stay focused on this thread! I've heard this come up a lot (difference between generic and name brand). I have always understood that the generics must be the same active ingredients etc. I've been to many different drug stores, and most have their own supply for generics. Once you take it, it's the same shit.

Adderall XR is the time released version, which there is no generic for.

Adderall (sometimes referred to as Adderall IR) is the instant release pill which there are generics for.

I've found it difficult at times to effectively use the search engine, because there are some really well-informed people out there, but Adderall is commonly misspelled (along with it’s abbreviations for time release).

If I may add to the original thread (asking doc to switch to Dexedrine) I would just switch doctors. Go to a new one that’s covered under your insurance, and tell them you are new to the area, and are taking Dexedrine for ADHD. Tell him/her your history, and the mild success you had with Adderall, and that your previous doctor switched you to Dexedrine about 6-months ago and it’s changed your life. That is what happened, right?

 

[nopain]

I live in a small town and don't think that is an option. There are only 3 pdocs. Two of them are in the same practice. The other one I could try but I have a good relationship with my doc and I think he would understand and realizes I am not a drug seeker or abuser. I never had to call him mid RX to get more meds etc. Is my thinking off base here? Thanks for the advice though. Seems like in a bigger town that would be the way to go if your doc is Rx adverse or you don't have a very good patient-doc relationship.

 

[EllisD.yeahit'sme.]

because of your current prescription you would have no problem getting xanax i bet.

you were right! went friday and got the 2mg xr's once a day.

is there any possibilility to get these prescribed for more than once a day? they really seem to wear off after awhile....much shorter than 12 hrs...

 

[Synapse999]

you were right! went friday and got the 2mg xr's once a day.

is there any possibilility to get these prescribed for more than once a day? they really seem to wear off after awhile....much shorter than 12 hrs...

Well, yeah....those are extended release. 8-12 hours would be a long ass time to last..
when i had those i crushed em up and swallowed them ;p


To get more per day, you go with the non-extended release.
Those only last like 4 hours....but you can take them multiple times a day.
Thats what i do.......i like the non-xr for that reason..and you get larger amount of pills.


But....if you want something to last more then 12 hours....you basically just gotta stick with those 2mg xr. and plan your day/time when you take them.
They will wear off, and you will get edgey from that..but thats just a given regardless.


They really can't reccomend giving you two of those doses a day...since thats considered like 24/7 xanax high. Which would be unbearably addictive and you would become tolerant quick.




Either ask for like .5mg xanax... which is prescribed 1 4 times a day.
like 120 pills a month.


or stick with the 2mg XR.

the .5 hits quicker and a bit stronger then the 2mg i think. but thats becaues the 2mg...is a slow release all day... e,g .25 .25 .25
So way i see it, by end of day...or at least for you...you become tolerant before 12 hours from the continous automated release.



the XR is less addictive though, since its so easy to start popping those instant release every couple hours.

 

[The Opioid Receptor]

Sorry, but by law, If you say something is 10mgs of something, then it better be 10 mgs. it doesn't matter if its an asprin, advil, benzo, or a stimulant.. There is still 10mgs of that ingredient in there.

Now some binders will effect the drugs. and because you are not allowed to copy another company, you may have to use a slightly different binder that may make a drug not seem quit as strong, but by law there can only be a 2% difference in the effectiveness..

This has been one of the problems with generic oxycotins, the drug is so pure that it has a very high effect rate. So manufaturers have to find a way to make a time release binder that doesn't make a 40mg oxy as effective as a 20... This was why purdue did not use a wax binder like they did with MScontin cause it's so easy to copy, even though the way kills the drugs effectiveness.. there is still 30mgs of morphine in a mscontin 30. So why is it so ineffective? It's the wax binder that causes the drug to pass excess amounts through the body with out getting disolved.

So how do they tell if it's effective? They test it with people just like the original drug company does. So it doesn't matter if someone has been making it for 40 years, verses someone who has made it 5 years. They test it with people who have been using the Original drug for years..

But in defense. It's a 2% average. So if one person says its just as effective and the other said hey it's only a little less the 4%, then that's 2%. But the truth of the matter is that most people who think there less effective usually by into the name brand is better.

 

[Koops]

Are You Fucking Crazy???

ARE YOU INSANE???

Why couldn't you break the adderal 4 different salts sustained release by crushing the tabs.

After that you could dissolve the crush to water(maybe warm/hot) to make sure any the different salts aren't in a solid form so you would have all the amphetamine cations in a water solution(Basically you would have all the amphetamine in a liquid form, which gets absorbed much faster and causing greater crush than a dexedrine tab/any other tab.).

If this works all the amphetamine would hit you simultainly you would experience rush similar to dexedrine(or eaven better), that everyone (owning adderal) seems to dream about.

Somebody do it and tell me does it work?

If one thing is sure it's that the solution containing all the amphetamine/Adderall WILL TASTE SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE ENJOYABLE! Just the words of warnings kids! Now go do it but be safe.

WHAT THE FUCK??? THESE MEDS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR 'FUN' LIKE THIS, OR FOR EXPERIMENTATION; WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?! YOU HAVE KIDS HERE AND HONEST ADULTS TRYING TO DISCUSS MEDICINE IN A SAFE WAY AND HERE YOU ARE PROMOTING AND GIVING SUGGESTIONS FOR 'RECREATIONAL' STIMULANT USE! YOU'RE A DANGER TO THIS WHOLE WEBSITE, YOU DAMN, INSANE, WHACK-JOB - THESE ARE PEOPLE'S LIVES HERE!!! SOME OF US REALLY DO HAVE A PROBLEM THAT WE NEED TO TAKE THESE MEDS FOR AND HERE YOU ARE, MAKING US LOOK BAD - LIKE DRUGGIES ! YOU'RE AN IRRESPONSIBLE IDIOT AND YOUR COMMENTS SHOULD HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THIS WEBSITE. THE MODERATORS ARE DOING A SHITTY JOB OF CONTROLLING WHAT KINDS OF COMMENTS ARE ALLOWED TO BE POSTED. SOMEONE COULD FUCKING *DIE* WITH ADVICE LIKE YOURS!!! YOU'RE REALLY AND TRULY DISGUSTING.

 

[Koops]

My doctor won't prescribe benzos because of addiction but she had no problem switching me from adderall sr 10mg x 3 morning and x 2 lunch and offered me 2x 15mg dexedrine morning 1 x 15mg afternoon. After I've obviously lost alot of weight in a short amount of time, she called it normal 8). I'm going to continually complain about my lack of sleep until they give me some sort of benzo alternative or something. They're trying to give me anti depressants to help the anxiety and sleeping issues.

Um, maybe you should change docs... No one should be forcing you to take meds that don't make you feel 'right' and they should listen to you when you complain. You know your body more than docs do, and you know better than anybody whether you feel like you should or not. CHANGE DOCS! That's all I can say for now. You shouldn't be constantly complaining of something to your doctor so that they can LISTEN to you - that's insane. I repeat: CHANGE DOCTORS!!! ASAP! The one that you're seeing sounds like a fucking idiot, no different than all the other 'med-happy' and 'biased towards certain meds' docs who are a disgrace to the medical community.

Sorry, but I've worked with many docs and some just plain SUCK and don't give a shit, and feel like what 'they' are saying is far more important than what anybody else does; their egos are more important.

 

[StupidMoFo]

Thanks for adding information to an old thread 8)

 

[ebola?]

FWIW:

subjectively, dexedrine feels to me like meth + a tiny amount of caffeine. Adderall feels like meth + a significant amount of caffeine. Both are shorter acting than meth, obviously.

ebola

 

[asplinteredfawn]

"Dextrostat" 10mg is the way to go. I'm prescribed 40mg a day. I've taking the generic and "Dextrostat" and also the "Dexedrine" 15mg spancels. Both name brand and generic. I prefer the Barr labs only because they contain less inactive ingredients that are water soluble. I inject my d-amphetamine often and it's easier when you can just filter the suspension to a solution and then do a wash. But I agree, orally the Barr tablets are weaker but not by much. Plus if you want the non generic tablets you usually have to wait a week unless you preorder. At least for me, in my area pharmacies rarely hold onto "Dextrostat" or "Dexedrine" only the generic I don't have health insurance so it doesn't matter to me it's only a few dollars difference. Except for one pharmacy in a hospital I found always has as many as I need, for awhile I was getting 6X10mg a day. I'm almost back up to that much again. Next time I get my RX refilled I may get my script early and hold out for the name brands and see if that will help me with my tolerance problem. The thing is that usually by the time I get my script I've been out for a week or so. But it's also kind of good because the first pills of every script are oh so sexy. I also take Xanax 3mg a day, but I don't really take it 3mg a day. If I'm having a hard time coming down I'll take a couple, but Xanax doesn't really effect me very much and if you let your self get into the habit it's an awful drug (I know from personal experience), plus it nullifies your tweak for the next day. Khat works well for when you run out of your dexies or adderall also.
When it comes down to the whole Adderall XR, Adderall, Dexedrine SR or Dextrostat I definitely prefer Dextrostat. But my favorite is taking a 20mg Adderall IR plus 2 10mg Dextrostats then complimenting it with 5 or 6 more Dextrostats throughout the day. I wish they made a pill that was like Loracet but D-amphetamine. What I mean is a stable dose of L-amphetamine unrelated to the dose of D-amphetamine in a pill. Perhaps 2.5mg of (d,l-)amphetamine no mater how much (d-)amphetamine is in the tablet.

 

[got beans?]

30 xr in the morning.
30 ir in the evening.
5 ir desoxyn as needed.

it's so gross.

my doccy is basically to the point of prescribing hotrails.

lol

know what u mean though, i used to get 30ir 4x a day