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Stimulants Dexedrine (or Adderall) extraction - Dual solvent recrystallization?

atrollappears

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Has any one tried the method detailed in section 19 of the amphetamine faq ( http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-197113.html ) on adderall or dexedrine IR tabs? Would it be practical?

Is there any other method that would reduce the volume of powder required to snort (because it's really not practical and I'm certain that after 3 or so pills absorption drops very steeply)? How would an acetone wash work?

Thanks.
 
I'm going to try this with some 98% Isopropyl Alc. with Acetone as a secondary solvent. I'll let you know how it goes, but I think it'll work.
 
I think adderall might have 'gakks' that will inhibit crystallization. Plus the mixed salts might not crystalize similarly. sulfates of amphetamine are very insoluble in alcohol, particularly isopropanol, so you won't extract much. An acetone wash won't remove most of the fillers.

It will probably still work to snort even mass amounts of powder, the sinuses have a large surface area, though it will be unpleasant and unhealthy to snort all those binders. You might be able to use a water extraction, boil down the water either to dryness or til it's concentrated enought to put in the fridge for recrystallization. I will be a PITA.

Best would be to get dexedrine spansules, crush/sieve the beads. Purer amphetamine than most street shit. Or just buy some real speed.
 
I think in ethanol it's soluble 1gram-500ml of ethanol, isopropyl is even less soluble.I don't think even an isopropanol wash will remove the inactives in dexedrine or dextrostat pills.Many of the inactives are insoluble in water, so thats your best bet.

Is insuffalated amphetamine really worth all the trouble? Don't they have street meth/amphetamine where you live?
 
I have not; I merely micron filtered dex-amp IR tabs by itself; and the effects were not pleasurable / euphoric to me like IV d-methamp is. Therefore such an extraction - in my eyes - is a waste of time. I prefer the oral ROA for dex-amp IR tabs. :)

If you're doing this to avoid harmful inactive ingredients, then good for you and I hope it works well!
 
I think in ethanol it's soluble 1gram-500ml of ethanol, isopropyl is even less soluble.I don't think even an isopropanol wash will remove the inactives in dexedrine or dextrostat pills.Many of the inactives are insoluble in water, so thats your best bet.

Is insuffalated amphetamine really worth all the trouble? Don't they have street meth/amphetamine where you live?
Well, I don't really want to do meth, and amphetamine isn't around outside of pharmaceuticals.

I'm going to attempt the method described in the 5th and 7th posts on this page: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/367402-Adderall-Questions-Thread/page2
The guy says it's as effective as insufflating the pure powder. Will report back if anyone is interested, but otherwise the guy in the thread did a pretty extensive writeup.

Captain.Heroin:
Yes, I'd agree that oral is definitely best for the tabs. Insufflating the crushed IR powder is pretty useless, I think the majority of people do it just because they like snorting things. And the purpose of this is to both increase efficiency and to avoid harmful ingredients.

Thanks, everyone, for your help.
 
Amphetamine is almost as toxic as methamphetamine anyway, meth is a little more toxic (at least neurotoxicity wise) but other than that I dont think it is harder on the body than an equivalent dose of amphetamine...
i've thought about this/schemed about this type of thing many times, its just not practical IMO unlesss you're extracting whole scripts at a time and are IVing amphetamine.
the only thing i'd bother doing is dissolving the dex/adderall in water, filtering off the insolubles (which is most of the powder), and leaving the water under a heat lamp for a day or so as to let the water evaporate off.
 
Any reason why you don't want to do methamphetamine? Just wondering, nothing against you at all for not wanting to use it. :)

Having poured over studies on (meth)amphetamine neurotoxicity for at least several days worth of my life, I've decided that methamphetamine looks too neurotoxic for me to want to use it on a regular basis at this point in my life. I would take an opportunity to consume it orally or insufflate it, but only to know what it's like and to be able to say I did it. Maybe when my striatum has fewer years ahead of it :)

LSDMDMA&10171567 said:
Amphetamine is almost as toxic as methamphetamine anyway, meth is a little more toxic (at least neurotoxicity wise) but other than that I dont think it is harder on the body than an equivalent dose of amphetamine...

Well if you inject enough of it into a rat, yes, you're going to get a lot of DA depletion with either chemical. But it seems that the threshold for meth neurotoxicity is much lower, and its toxicity is also much more widespread. (For example, neurotoxic doses of meth impair object recognition, while neither amphetamine nor pCA do.)

the only thing i'd bother doing is dissolving the dex/adderall in water, filtering off the insolubles (which is most of the powder), and leaving the water under a heat lamp for a day or so as to let the water evaporate off.

That's what I'm going to do, but maybe just insufflate the filtered liquid.
 
what about crushing the pill putting in i few drops of coke soda pop, it breaks down the binder in second
 
I get named brand adderal 30xr capsules with the beads, I kno how to crush them and stuff due to injesting in my nose, I have ived heroin blow before and kno the proper steps in prepping that for in injection, I'm 34 been around the block a few times so kno most of my shit, I WOULD HIGHLY APPRECIATE THE HOW TO PREP for THE PROCESS!! It's been day's looking for the method. No luck I'm just abbout to crush up the 30mg xr and cigarette filter it twice. Any help is appreciated
 
amphetamine extraction from adderall

.I'm not sure how to do the xr extraction as I've never tried it but here is how to extract amphetamine hcl from adderall ir.
Depending on your knowledge, perhaps you can use this as a starting point and go from there




Amphetamine hydrochloride, which is Amphetamine in its powdered form, is primarily produced from the Elements of the Periodic Table, which by some chance/luck spill into each other at the right time under the right conditions, somehow/someway in different glass peaces ending in the finished Amphetamine Salt (We mad scientist call this a act of God)...... Amphetamine is a chiral compound. The racemic mixture can be divided into its optical antipodes: levo- and dextro-amphetamine. Amphetamine is the parent compound of its own structural class, comprising a broad range of psychoactive derivatives, e.g., MDMA (Ecstasy) and the N-methylated form, methamphetamine. Amphetamine is a homologue of phenethylamine.

List of supplys/chemicals needed for Amphetamine Salt Extraction From Adderall IR-

-Adderall IR Pills

-Sodium Bicarbonate:Local Store, Chemical Supply.

-Ammonium Hydroxide (Pure ammonia solution 27%):Chemical Supply Store.

-Potassium salt:Chemical Supply Store

-Petroleum Ether:Chemical Supply Store

-Hydrochloric Acid (High% for best results/easiest procedure):Chemical Supply Store.

-PH papers (Litmus or Phenaphthazine-base/acidic needed):Chemical Supply Store, Pharmacy.

-Distilled Water

-Filter Papers (Lab grade prefered):Chemical Supply Store.

-(1)4"to 6" Glass Vial with chemical type Poly-Seal screw on top (For use as shaker vial and reaction vessel):Chemical Supply Store

-(1)Large glass or porcelain watch-glass (8"to 12" for ether evaporation)

-(1)Boiling Flask-Florence Flasks (Flask, boiling, flat bottom, 250ml, borosilicate glass works best):Chemical Supply Store

-(1)Cork Or Rubber Stoppers for Boiling Flasks

-(6)Pyrex Lab Glass Beakers:Chemical Supply Store.

-(2)Standard Precision Glass Eyedroppers (for use with hydroxide and also HCl solutions,make sure to mark each dropper)

-(1)Large (3 to 5cc) glass or polyethylene precision dropper (for use with ether):drug store, chemical supply or surgical supply.

-(1)Large Boiling Pot for making the FIZZLE.



Procedure #1-Amphetamine Free-basing-

Step 1-add pulverized Adderall IR pills+baking-soda add 1" of water(high) placed inside of jar. Mix around good.

Step 2-Check ph, remember you want closest to 7.2 and no more then 7.7 (Add either more Adderall or baking-soda depending on ph).

Step 3-Taking care not to break the jar or burn your hands, place the loosely capped flat bottom Boiling Flask in a shallow hot water bath and bring the water to a low boil.

Step 4-Let stand for a few minutes (2-4 approximately) until all milkiness has given way to the formation of particles or chunks.

Step 5-Continue the water bath while tilting the jar at a 45 degree angle and slowly rotating or swirling the jar in such a way as to cause the chunks of partially melted base to form or a few larger pieces.

Step 6-(Note-before Adderall Free-Base can be removed from the jar and rinsed, the jar and contents must be thoroughly cooled. Care must be taken not to break the jar by exposure to rapid, radical changes of temperature.)

Step 7-place chunks in a filter paper rinse with water about 4 times changing filter after second rinse.


Procedure #2-Ether Extraction-

Step 1-Using the large dropper, add about 1 1/2 inches of ether to the vial containing the free-base suspension. Cap tightly and shake furiously for at least one minute. The particles of free-base will dissolve into the ether. If not, continue shaking until it appears that no more particles are dissolving. Let the vial stand until there is no more bubbling effect, and the ether has formed a definite layer above the basing solution. Open away from eyes. Use the smallest amount of ether possible to absorb the free-base in the vial. If there are still remaining particles of free-base in the vial which did not dissolve, it is an indication that a little more ether is necessary to dissolve the total volume of base. (Note-This can be corrected as in Step-4 below).

Step 2-Using the large dropper, carefully draw off the ether from the vial. Holding the dropper up to a light source, you should be able to see if there is a layer of basing solution under the ether/base column in the dropper. Make certain not to leave even one drop of basing solution in the dropper.

Step 3-Carefully hold the dropper upright over the center of the large watch glass and slowly squirt the ether/base solution onto the glass. Repeat until there is no more ether in the vial.

Step 4-If you get near the point at which no ether remains in the vial and there are remaining particles of free-base in the vial, add a little more ether (1/4 to 1/2 inch) and shake furiously until all the particles dissolve, then repeat steps 2 and 3.

Step 5-Let the watch glass stand until the ether thoroughly evaporates. Some people like to help this process along by gently blowing on the surface to speed evaporation. When the center of the watch glass doesn't feel cold to the touch from underneath, the free-base is ready to be scraped off with a razor blade and smoked. If the ether is not allowed to evaporate thoroughly, the free-base will ignite when torched/smoked.


Procedure #3-Amphetamine-Base reverse-engineered back to a chemical hydrochloride state-

Step 1-Dissolve Amphetamine-Base in hydrochloric acid and water.

Step 2-Add potassium salt, which causes undesirable substances to separate from the mixture.

Step 3-Ammonia is added to the remaining solution, powder Amphetamine precipitates out, and is then removed and dried. (95% + YIELDS AMP HCI)

(Note-While the active ingredient in powder Amphetamine -- Amphetamine alkaloid -- does not differ from that in Amphetamine-Base, the salt that is added during this process renders Amphetamine hydrochloride unsmokable. However, the salt renders the Amphetamine hci: i.e., readily dissolvable in water)
 
Having poured over studies on (meth)amphetamine neurotoxicity for at least several days worth of my life, I've decided that methamphetamine looks too neurotoxic for me to want to use it on a regular basis at this point in my life. I would take an opportunity to consume it orally or insufflate it, but only to know what it's like and to be able to say I did it. Maybe when my striatum has fewer years ahead of it :)\
Could you provide me a few references showing that N-methylamphetamine is that significantly more neurotoxic then amphetamine. Their pharmacology is almost identical expect for amphetamine binding better to NET(noradrenaline transporter) and meth binding better to the SERT(serotonin transporter) but both drugs have comparable affinity for the DAT(dopamine transporter)
 
I don't know what pop is but I'm very interested in breaking down the adderall ir. I get 60# 20mg per month and have had no success in my only technique. Which is adding water and heating.
 
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