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Detoxing off Rikodeine

TeeCee

TeeCee

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Hi,

I'm currently in a psych hospital detoxing off rikodeine. Over the last two months I've had about 80 bottles. This experience, detoxing of this stuff, has been one of the worst experiences of my life. I'm just over the worst - 3 days of absolute hell, climbing the walls, couldn't eat, involuntary limb movements, couldn't work out whether to lay down or stand up, diarrhoea, crying for hours on end, the works. I'm now just left with depression, and the urge to just go and top myself. Just wondering if anyone else has had this experience.

TeeCee
 
wowsers, sorry to hear that man, sounds like typical opiate withdrawls

I was drinking close to a litre a week at one point, but did a bit of research into sorbitol, and it's really bad for you in high doses so been cutting back using cannabutter for pain instead

good luck dude, you're past the worst of it :)
 
Yeah, it is just typical opiate withdrawals you are experiencing.

Not something to be treated lightly, but let this be a lesson to others.

All the best with your recover. You will feel better in 10-14 days.

Nab
 
Thanks for your replies everyone.

Things are getting easier now; not perfect, but better than that hellish weekend by a mile.

I'm booked into the Victorian Addiction Centre on the 1st of October. It's basically a 28 day rehab. Going to stay here in the clinic until it's time to go in. Best to be safe. I'm quite depressed and having suicidal impulses... which is really no surprise to me. Going to look at some med changes next week - I have bipolar disorder - so that might help too.
 
Thanks psytaco, things are slowly getting better. My body ain't right yet. Still no appetite whatsoever, forcing food down. Diarrhoea still constant. headaches, only sleeping 4-5 hours a night etc.

Something else that I experienced when the withdrawals peaked was I was seeing cats out the corner of my eyes. I kept turning to look and obviously there were no cats there. Strange shit happens!

Yeah I also want to say to everyone who gets on this stuff, be careful. It can obviously be really addictive. I expected some kind of withdrawal but what I got was just out of control. Never want to go through it again. Though being a drug addict I can't rely on pain memories to stop myself from using again.
 
Stick to your plan TeeCee, you have already come so far and things will only keep getting better. I hope that things improve rapidly for you. Keep posting messages if it helps to talk it out, and ease your depression at all. There are many of us that have gone through withdrawal symptoms from drugs of different kinds, I'm sure that some can identify with exactly what you are going through.

BT :)
 
heya Teecee,

it sure sounds like a difficult detox, espically if it has been triggered by a stay in a psychiatric services unit; which at the best of times is dificult.
Detoxes are alwyas hard, lasting anywhere between 3-9days, but the good news is that things change; how shit you are feeling now should lighten up tomorrow. things get eaiser over time.

make sure you stay in touch with a good drug and alcohol counsellor over the next few days and check in with the psychiatrist now and again. If your still experiencing ongoing auditory, visual or olfactory (smell) hallucinations then contact them sooner rahter than later.

opiate like substance withdrawals are usually characterised by a week or so of interrupte sleep- ive seen many an opiate user bust cause they couldnt hack the sleeplessness. But it does get better
 
Yeah I asked my psychiatrist here in the hospital about suboxone, and her opinion is that the valium, largactic and catapres is enough. I have access to 20mg of valium every two hours if I need it. Though others reckon suboxone would be better. Others think I should have been put on methadone. I dunno.

I'm trying to get into the Victorian Addiction Centre (VAC) earlier. On a cancellation list. I'm ready to go now. I've been told it's pretty strict. No laptops, no Ipods, they take your phone away and you have to ask to use it, no magazines etc. Full on. Will see what it's like.
 
heya Teecee, it really depends on what your hoping to use the suboxone for; at the clinic i work in it is one option of a range of maintenance therapies (which include, buphrenorphine and methadone)

my guess is that if you are on largactil than you have the need of some major tranqillising, espeically those three put together. If you dont mind me asking have you had a diagnosis or description of what the psychiatrist is treating as your mental health issue?

sounds like your psychiatrist is making some interesting decisions; to put you on large amounts of benzo's, i would suggest that you get a AOD consultation liason opinion if youre still in hospital.
 
PS just cause someone is a psychiatrist doesnt mean that they are god!! you have the right to refuse treatment unless under a mental health order, you also have the right if that is the case to a second opinion at a mental health tribunal.

I woulod encourage you to have as much imput into your treatment as you can- that includes participating in maintaining you Mental health and giving honest feedback about the affects of psychotropic medications both good and bad
 
Largactyl for opiate withdrawal.. psycho psychiatrists.. some psycs like some weird drugs.. prolly just the valium and catapress.. fuck the anti-psychotics off.. those will make you feel worse if anything
 
Hey guys,

Yeah, i'm on a shitload of meds. Was just talking to a nurse about it, and she reckons I need to get a second opinion too.

At the moment I'm on: Lamictal 300mg, effexor 450mg, seroquel, 300mg, abilify 5mg, lithium 700mg, 15mg (I think, just started it) of avanza, the catapres, and valium and largactil as PRNs.

That's a lot of drugs!

I'm not uninformed when it comes to meds; I do my research. But, yeah, need to review it. Will have to do it after I get out of VAC.

My diagnosis is Bipolar 1, with the occasional psychotic episode. Been a rollercoaster since about 17. Lots of very good times, and very bad times. I don't have any manic episodes now, just the depressions. Been suicidal more days than I can count. Probably half a year in total. Wouldn't wish it upon anyone, though for some reason I wouldn't have my life any other way. Feel like I've really lived, and I'm just 32.

Anyhow, that's it for now.

Cheers.
 
TeeCee,

Like man others here man, I feel your pain - that's a metric shitload of rikodeine.

I have just been clean for 1 week and 1 day, from using 2kg of poppy seeds nearly daily, plus rikodeine and codiene products for nearly a year.

It really does get better man. You have to hit rock bottom and before you can use that bottom to push off and lift yourself. Once the depression lifts everything starts falling back into place.

I'd go easy on the valium - 20mg every two hours with fucken skyrocket your tolerance and for me it hasn't helped sleep issues - though I must admit I fucked up and used a fair bit of my valium while I was still using.

Good luck dude. All the best.
 
Thanks Bludda.

Well I'm home now. Just got back today. Fucking weird and sad leaving the hospital. Leaving the comfort zone, and all the great people in there that I had created bonds with. Some amazing people that have taught me a lot, and given me something to go on. There was one guy who I owe a lot to. A wise old man. He talked me through my withdrawal, and gave me some hope again. I'll never forget that.

Right now though I'm feeling depressed. Lonely, I guess. There's only mum and dad here, and the cats. When I was using rikodeine I enjoyed the solitude. Now it sucks. I do have a counselling session tomorrow to look forward to. And I'm staying with a friend for a few days from friday. And another friend has offered to come and stay after that. So I have plans. Next thursday I go to the Victorian Addiction Centre for a 28 day rehab. Checked out the place the other day went I met up with a doctor for an appointment there. It looks pretty good, and any anxiety I had about going there has lessened. I already know someone there, which will help, and I met some of the other patients, and they were pretty cool too.

It's a big time in my life. A lot of uncertainty and doubt. But faith and hope are poking through from time to time. I'm agnostic, but questioning what I believe in. Not into Christian faith. The natural world appeals to me at present. It's simple. And the idea of intention. I'll process it.

My dreams are worse than a horror movie at the moment. I wake up, covered in sweat, so happy that it was just a dream. Things are adjusting in my head, I know that. I'll give this one time.

Thanks for reading.
 
^^ Don't discount the meds your on when considering your dreams/sweaty sleeping. 450mg of effexor would destroy most normal people's sleeping patterns! 225mg had me waking several times a night drenched in sweat for years.

I hope things begin looking up for you soon :)
 
Thanks belarki,

Yeah it's possible it's the meds. I know seroquel can be the basis of some pretty crazy dreams too. Though I have the sense it's withdrawal related. But, who knows.
 
an anticonvulsant + SNRI + antipsychotics + mood stabilizer + TeCA....and it goes on!

good god!!! how on earth does your doc know what is working and what isn't?

all the best of luck to ya man - you've come a long way...be proud and keep posting hey!
 
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