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detox from Tramadol/Ultram?????

I've had a few regimes of tramadol & suffered some withdrawal at the end of each. Low energy, restless arms & legs mostly, inability to sleep. Like pbayne said, it randomly lights up my nerves & drives me to distraction. It takes 2-3 days of feeling like crap & then I'm past it. For me it requires taking it regularly for a month or more before I'm physically addicted. Psychologically it happens pretty quickly, however. My body just seems to like it.
 
freescale said:
I've had a few regimes of tramadol & suffered some withdrawal at the end of each. Low energy, restless arms & legs mostly, inability to sleep. Like pbayne said, it randomly lights up my nerves & drives me to distraction. It takes 2-3 days of feeling like crap & then I'm past it. For me it requires taking it regularly for a month or more before I'm physically addicted. Psychologically it happens pretty quickly, however. My body just seems to like it.
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Those aren't terrible withdrawal symptoms. The "real" non fully synthetics, like codeine, morphine, oxycodone, heroin, etc. produce really bad flu-like symptoms including vomiting, teary eyes, runny noes, real bad coughs, really painful muscles, diarrhea etc. etc. I can sort of deal with low energy, restless legs & inability to sleep. Those are less physical.
 
Those aren't terrible withdrawal symptoms.
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No, compared to your major opiates it's pretty minor. But it's still a real effect that needs to be managed when it happens.
 
Oh shit I just took another one (total of 100mg, my eyes are so dilated). My back feels awesome now, I think I should see a doctor about my back though it really does bother me, and if I can get better opiates then fuck this. I don't get much from codeine, and when I do its usually because I take a benedryl with it, that just puts me to sleep lol. When should I worry about withdrawal?
 
It's takes at least a month or two of regular use to get physically addicted to tramadol. I have gone through 200 of the 100mg tramadol (20 grams) in the past three months (taking between 100-400mg a day at least three days a week) and experienced very mild WD symptoms - hard to sleep, legs ache and are mildly restless, stomach discomfort. Nothing worse than a mild cold. This is the first time I have ever experienced WD symptoms from opiates so I really don't have much to compare it too.

Before I quit taking it, I took smaller and smaller doses. No more than 50mg a day for the last week of use. Everyone is different, and for me the WD was fairly painless. To help ease the discomfort I used loperamide and ibuprofen in daytime and ambien to sleep.
 
Like most opiates it takes a couple months before you start feeling some sort of physical withdrawal symptoms but they are mild to moderate. Nothing terrible. It takes awhile before you start feeling the more severe symptoms. (well, severe but not like the traditional opiate severity). The worse symptoms I suffered from after 4 or so months (I was taking hydrocodone also) were RLS, stomach discomfort, muscle pains/tensions, insomnia & anxiety.

Like I said, I was also taking hydrocodone so that may have contributed to the symptoms. I was only taking the Tramadol because at the time I couldn't find anything other than hydros. I needed both for the pain. I didn't actually feel any sort of opiate effects until I took a moderate dose of hydrocodone. They had synergy.
 
Tramadol is a partial agonist drug, with a low ceiling compared to pure agonist drugs like morphine. It does not effect Kappa and Delta receptors, and only effects Mu weakly. It is not thought to relieve pain with its weak opioid activity. Its main action is to inhibit reuptake of norepinephrine and serotonin.
 
Just textbooks. "Pharmacology for Nurses", Adams and Holland. "A Primer of Drug Action", by Robert Julien. Julien has a paperback, non technical version of his book you should be able to find in most bookstores for about 20 bucks. Its a great book that covers most psychoactive drugs. Guys an anesthesiologist out in Oregon. Its like his 9th edition. He doesn't play politics w/h drugs like so many do. He'll tell what will fuck you up in the end, but will openly acknowledge if there wasn't positive effects too, nobody would be doing them.
 
Actually Tramadol is the only thing i'll take to get high, i even tried h but i found tramadol to be 100x times better I know call me crazy, but its so long lasting for me all day, until i go to sleep,. and sleep is great on them.The sad thing is that i create a huge tolerance in a matter of 2 weeks or less depending on my take, so i have been up there (20 a day) just like yourself. Thats when i stop COLD TURKEY and suffer for 3-5 days, mostly the 1st 3days are like a scenario from Freddy's nightmare on elm street, just horrible no way to describe the pain but you already know that. I dont take anything else maybe some advil for pain, drink lots of water getorade, eat healthy. Thats all i can give you man hang in there. Once my tolerance is LOW i go back at it again and enjoy myself for a week or two....You win some u lose some, you want joy? but then you cant suffer? it doesnt go that way, must suffer to get JOY! SO HANG IN THERE! You can order them online, if you need more info on how to order them if it gets really bad let me know ill help ya out, they are really easy to get and ship fast.
 
Use effexor (VENLAFAXINE) (try 3 or 4 times / 24 H 75mg), after you need to detox to effexor but it is much much more easy by decreasing daily the dosage

Don't exceed 400mg / day

Maybe use your half daily dose of tramadol at first + 2 times 75 mg EFFEXOR
After some weeks you should be only under Effexor

But as all anti depressant you will certainly have side effects...

Ask your doctor
 
Project Will said:
I experienced very mild WD symptoms - hard to sleep, legs ache and are mildly restless.
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Oh wow! Good for you, because when I stopped my 50 to 100 mg tram habit a day after 4 month, the restless leg thingy drove me absolutely insane. Touching the bedsheets was unbearable. The contact of the skin with any kind of fabric was like atrocious. Cotton, which I normally love, would feel like silk or viscose, which for some obscure reason, I cannot stand at all :X I could not sleep at all.

The second time I decided to get off of the tram, I took klonopin, and it's been a much smoother ride. As long as you don't take the klo for more than a couple of days, it should be OK. Otherwiser, frankly, the last thing you wanna do is exchange a mild opiate/SNRI addiction for a benzo one. Been there, done that...8)
 
kailinu said:
Oh wow! Good for you, because when I stopped my 50 to 100 mg tram habit a day after 4 month, the restless leg thingy drove me absolutely insane. Touching the bedsheets was unbearable. The contact of the skin with any kind of fabric was like atrocious. Cotton, which I normally love, would feel like silk or viscose, which for some obscure reason, I cannot stand at all :X I could not sleep at all.

The second time I decided to get off of the tram, I took klonopin, and it's been a much smoother ride. As long as you don't take the klo for more than a couple of days, it should be OK. Otherwiser, frankly, the last thing you wanna do is exchange a mild opiate/SNRI addiction for a benzo one. Been there, done that...8)
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Good lord it would not be worth trading a Tramadol addiction for a benzodiazepine addiction, hell no. Your right there. I wouldn't trade a heroin addiction for it...no addiction is worse than benzodiazepines.
 
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