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Detailed explanations of different highs from different opiates.

Oxymorphone: When my friend hooked me up with the 10mg Opana IR's for the first time two years ago, I felt like I had been blown by an angel. Oxymorphone is probably my favorite opioid. The rush is better than heroin, the buzz is similar (but more euphoric) to oxycodone, and it is potent as fuck. I never thought it would be possible for an injected opioid to feel better than heroin, but IMO, oxymorphone is most definately superior. I also really like the high as well, it's pretty damn long lasting (even when injected), and like hydrocodone and oxycodone, it's a stimulating but a simultaneously calming experience. A fuckin' plus....by Znegative

I know you said you iv most of the time, but have you ever taken this orally? If so, what was that experience like for you? Also wondering about immediate release.

Thanks! By the way, sorry for the way I quoted you...haven't figured out how to quote only a portion of someone else's post.

I didn't take it oral, only IV, sniffed and rectally. The actual high should be the same no matter what ROA, my main problem with swallowing oxymorphone is that the oral absorption is so incredibly low, that it seems like a waste, Especially, if you're an IV drug user. You can sniff the opana and it's still strong as hell though
 
Okay, so this post on the different highs is not going to be subjective. I am going to report what I have gathered from others' reports on the differences in opiates, because my report would be different, as all reports are different. So I am attempting to put together a collective report of the differences in opiate highs.

Oxycodone- Oxycodone is usually regarded as being quite a euphoric opiate, and often considered quite stimulating compared to others. It is reported to last a bit longer than hydrocodone, but not substantially, and not nearly as long as morphine, for example.

Hydrocodone- Hydrocodone is usually regarded as an opiate slightly inferior in effects to oxycodone, however, there is a portion of the opiate-using populating who report hydrocodone to be especially enjoyable (more so than oxycodone) for reasons they cannot exactly articulate. Hydrocodone is usually considered less stimulating than oxycodone however this differs from user to user, and some consider hydrocodone to be quite a bit more stimulating than oxycodone. "Dreamy" is a word I have heard used more than once to describe the effects of hydrocodone. It seems users enjoy combining carisoprodol (Soma) with hydrocodone as there is an apparent synergy, however, while certainly existent the combination of carisoprodol and other opiates seems to be less reported. Often users will report enjoying using hydrocodone in the form of Tussionex especially, possibly due to the fact that Tussionex contains a sedating anti-histamine to potentiate the effects of the hydrocodone, and increase the nod.

Heroin/Morphine- I have combined these two due to the quite similar effects with some notable differences. Firstly, the rush of IV heroin is regarded to be far superior to the rush of IV morphine by a good number of users. The IV heroin rush is said to be one of the best opiate rushes often compared in intensity to hydromorphone's rush IV, however, some will say it is more intense, others will say it is less intense. IV morphine is said cause especially strong feelings of "pins and needles" due to a great deal of histamine being released throughout the entire body. After the rushes, the effects are said to differ, and heroin's effects are generally favored over morphine's, however, this varies. Both heroin and morphine, regardless of ROA, are said to be more sedating, heavier opiates than either oxycodone or hydrocodone. They are said to be much noddier. Some opiate-naive individuals may not like the effects of morphine as much as oxycodone and hydrocodone because morphine is more subtle in effect, and seasoned users are more likely to appreciate this.

Codeine- Codeine is metabolized into morphine and another metabolite(s)(?), both of which cause the effects of codeine. Some people cannot metabolize codeine properly because of biological differences, and so cannot enjoy codeine at all. Others can only metabolize poorly, and some can metabolize well. Codeine, however, is generally regarded as a "lesser" opiate. I suspect the cause for this is due to the fact that like morphine, codeine is more sedating and heavier at an equipotent dose, with less apparent euphoria, and seasoned users, who would appreciate such effects, would require more codeine than could be taken (due to ceiling dose) to have it hit them good, and it is simply not feasible. Some have reported very good experiences with codeine, though.

Fentanyl- Fentanyl is generally considered quite sedating and quite noddy. Some report it does not have as much euphoria as other opiates, but some like it very much. It is very strong, nonetheless, in its effects. Its effects, however, are not long-lived.

Buprenorphine- Most users of buprenorphine are opiate addicts, so this should be considered. Buperenorphine is often considered to be quite stimulating in its effects, however, the effect of buprenorphine largely depends on the dose and the state of the opiate addiction (wd's, maintenance etc.). It is quite long lasting, longer than morphine or heroin by general concensus.

Methadone- One thing most users will agree on is the strength of methadone, its sedating qualities, and its very long lasting effects. It is a very potent mu-agonist and can dull other opioids taken while taking methadone. Some regard it as quite euphoric, others do not seem to see such euphoria in the drug. A good deal of side-effects are reported with methadone compared to other opioids.

Butorphanol- Butorphanol's impression on people varies quite a bit. Some love its effects, and find it to be exquisitely euphoric (often when they have had it in clinical settings), and some report side-effects such as restlessness and nausea. It is a partial antagonist, and has some dissosciative properties possibly adding to the varied responses.

Hydromorphone- Most regard the rush of hydromorphone IV as wonderfully powerful and euphoric. Hydromorphone is not very long-lasting in effect, perhaps about as long as hydrocodone or slightly shorter based on others' reports. The rush that the drug provides is often considered its main asset. It has been described as so powerful that it often creates a bit of anxiety when occuring, that it is too large a dose. It's high after the rush is said to be quite nice, comparable perhaps in enjoyment factor to hydrocodone or oxycodone.

Well there it is, a crude, roughly put together summary of a few opioids which I have read and heard a lot about via individual reports. Again, this is really rough, and I am sure not very inclusive of a lot of these drugs' other properties.
 
I think I'm gonna move this over to Drug Culture...Seems more appropriate there.
Thanks! =D
Hydromoprhone is MEANT to be shot up.....
That's why I said unless injected =).
I'm tempted to close this thread, but I'll leave it open for a little while longer to see where it goes. It's just an incredibly subjective thing and so no one here can give you any real solid feedback.
I'm well aware that different drugs are going to affect different people in different ways. That's why I'm asking. I just wanted to see how other people's experiences differed from mine.
haha oh yes! My video game skills and analysis are 10 times better!!
Haha. I know it's crazy right?
Okay, so this post on the different highs is not going to be subjective. I am going to report what I have gathered from others' reports on the differences in opiates, because my report would be different, as all reports are different. So I am attempting to put together a collective report of the differences in opiate highs.
That's why I said:
I was wondering if you guys could give me detailed explanations of the *different* feelings you get off different opiates, and *your* preferred opiates. Thanks a lot!
=)
 
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Saying hydromorphone is MEANT to be shot up is not true. Sure it will produce a great rush, and the BA is 100% (as opposed to 30-60% with other ROA), but they wouldn't make the pills if oral had absolutely no effect. I've actually heard some people who prefer to sacrifice a bit of the rush for more of a high by using it rectaly, and supposedly it's still pretty badass. I've only experienced 2mg IM shots in the hospital, and they were effective. Dilaudid is a strong fucking drug.

I forget the exact number, but muvolution posted an equivalence chart between hydromorphone and oxycodone, and even taken orally 8mg of hydromorphone is equal to about 35mg of oxy.
 
Never understood how people could say Oxycodone is only "mildly" euphoric. Hell, I've NEVER had a more euphoric opiate and I've tried everything (except oxymorphone :| )

Heroin, Hydromorphone, so on and so forth down the list...

But it's totally true, different people get different reaction from different drugs.

I know what you mean about the euphoria from oxycodone but oxymorphone is much more euphoric for me. Its the only opiate ive done that beats it, if you ever get to try it youll know what I mean :)
 
Yes, I prefer morphine and heroin personally to oxy. I don't know they just offer that sense of empathy that oxy doesn't really give me (though hydrocodone does-weird). Opana is like a "super oxycodone " in my oppinion, when IV'd the rush is stronger than smack, but it has more of a speedy buzz overall.

I just wish I didn't need to inject large quantities of illicit drugs to feel empathy.
 
I think I'm gonna move this over to Drug Culture...Seems more appropriate there.

I'm just going to leave the rest of the thread unread from your post on... the posts are wonderful, and I don't want to miss opiates again.
 
oxycodone - the drug i use most frequently. surprisingly exhilarating, and gives me a real energy boost on top of the euphoria. as the high wears down, i get sleepier and get some nods.
oxymorphone - my DOC. heavy, nodding euphoria with awesome waves of bliss as someone described perfectly earlier.
hydromorphone - hardest for me to come by. an unreal rush of euphoria with the least amount of legs on it.
 
Im currently on Buprenorphine 6mg daily,id say thast its true with this drug thatn less is more as i do seem to feel quite euphoric after iv snorted around 2mg,i do tend to try and stick to taking about 4/5mg a day because if i have any more than that then i seem to not feel as euphoric as id like to feel.
 
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Fentanyl has a high lipid solubility and reaches more areas of the brain. Heroin (which I've never tried) also has a high lipid solublility; not sure how they compare.

Unlike what others have said I didn't find fentanyl (100mg IV) that sedating compared to 2mg IV morphine or 30-60mg oral codeine or 5-7.5mg oral hydrocodone especially. It wasn't short acting and I actually liked the slight cold feeling.

Oxycodone sort of makes me giddy and overly optimistic in sort of a stupid way but is an effective painkiller and MUCH better than hydrocodone.

Propoxyphene is mediocre but you can get a moderately high dose if you chew it up for an hour or snort it.

I find that combined with butalbital, opiates(even tramadol) tend to reduce my consciousness but this may be less true of fentanyl.

I'd like to try acetorphine, desomorphine, normorphine, and more potent fentanyls.
 
Strangely enough, when I broke my nose last year and went to the hospital for concussion and multiple nasal/facial fractures, they gave me iv dilaudid (my only IV experience to date) and it was a verrryyyy odd feeling. Like a cold warmth that spread from my arm and reached my chest then a full wave of pain relief both mentally and physically came over me, but i felt very little euphoria in the typical sense. And other than heroin which i have never tried, oxymorphone was definitely the most powerful and intense euphoria and body high I have felt on any opiate. Only second to that is high doses of oxycodone snorted. First post here btw, long time lurker!
 
My explanation for oxycodone : I can catch a nod from it, having cool dreams etc while being awake, but I can stop nodding whenever I want or need to. The good part about the stimulating opioids.
Same goes for tramadol.

Codeine in high doses is actually more sedating than oxy or tramadol IME. I think I would love morphine. =D
Also love mixing oxy or tramadol with codeine to increase euphoria & sedation. Don't take oxy anymore though.

I usually mix tramadol+codeine with a benzo when I have all 3 (I always have tramadol & benzos), but I wouldn't recommend it. Especially if you don't have tolerance you should not attempt this. I used to do it with oxy too, that's even more dangerous, even with tolerance. But it was sweet. <3
 
in order:

Hydromorphone- holy grail, unparalleled euphoria, unparalleled rush, potent, effective pain killer, beautiful nod.
Oxymorphone- euphoric, unique clearheaded high, waves of bliss.
Heroin- potent, euphoric, very rushy, heavy nod
Oxycodone- stimulating, mildly euphoric, great for productivity.
Morphine- great analgesia, very reliable, moderate euphoria.
Buprenorphine- very potent, long lasting high, good nods.
Fentanyl- unparalleled potency, great analgesic, but too sedating to be used recreationally.

useless opiates: Tramadol, Codeine. (to some degree, also hydrocodone, shitty analgesic, but pretty intoxicating)

I'd have to agree with that for the most part as well. Although, hydrocodone can be pretty euphoric and even relaxing at times I have found when enough is taken (though it always comes with that damn itch, which can pleasant in itself when my girl is scratching my head for me haha), but it is certainly not one I would choose over another, unless that other was codeine. Tramadol on the other hand I have had some nice experiences with, I have found mixing it with oxycodone and joint can produce a very nice buzz that just makes the days seem that much more brighter.

Though I have a question or two, while I definitely agree whole-heartedly that Oxymorphone is just pure bliss, I have come across some ole Mother H that felt just as exquisite. But this hydromorphone, can you give me a couple examples of what they might be? Pill names I mean, I'm not sure if I have come across those yet or not.
And one more question to anyone in general, and if this has been asked already I apologize, please just point me in the right direction, but how would a combination of standard Percocet 512s, let's say 6 of them, 50 mgs demerol, and 30 mgs of Adderal XR go? would this be a good one or no?
 
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