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Detailed explanations of different highs from different opiates.
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tricomb
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in order:
Hydromorphone- holy grail, unparalleled euphoria, unparalleled rush, potent, effective pain killer, beautiful nod.
Oxymorphone- euphoric, unique clearheaded high, waves of bliss.
Heroin- potent, euphoric, very rushy, heavy nod
Oxycodone- stimulating, mildly euphoric, great for productivity.
Morphine- great analgesia, very reliable, moderate euphoria.
Buprenorphine- very potent, long lasting high, good nods.
Fentanyl- unparalleled potency, great analgesic, but too sedating to be used recreationally.
useless opiates: Tramadol, Codeine. (to some degree, also hydrocodone, shitty analgesic, but pretty intoxicating)
Hydromorphone- holy grail, unparalleled euphoria, unparalleled rush, potent, effective pain killer, beautiful nod.
Oxymorphone- euphoric, unique clearheaded high, waves of bliss.
Heroin- potent, euphoric, very rushy, heavy nod
Oxycodone- stimulating, mildly euphoric, great for productivity.
Morphine- great analgesia, very reliable, moderate euphoria.
Buprenorphine- very potent, long lasting high, good nods.
Fentanyl- unparalleled potency, great analgesic, but too sedating to be used recreationally.
useless opiates: Tramadol, Codeine. (to some degree, also hydrocodone, shitty analgesic, but pretty intoxicating)
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macd610
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I've tried a number of the things on Tricomb's list, except for heroin, buprenorphine, and oxymorphone.
Oxycodone ir has done the best for me...for pain relief, it's great. I am on the same page with you both...it seems to perk me up and make me feel much more social. Gives me a sense that I'm "ok", if that makes sense?
Anyway, Hydromorphone made me pretty nasty, felt badly, little to NO pain relief ...(I realize this is a weird reaction to have to it,seems most who have tried it LOVE it lol).
SO Oxycodone is #1 for me...followed by Fentanyl, but not for purposes of this thread-just good pain control.
Oxycodone ir has done the best for me...for pain relief, it's great. I am on the same page with you both...it seems to perk me up and make me feel much more social. Gives me a sense that I'm "ok", if that makes sense?
Anyway, Hydromorphone made me pretty nasty, felt badly, little to NO pain relief ...(I realize this is a weird reaction to have to it,seems most who have tried it LOVE it lol).
SO Oxycodone is #1 for me...followed by Fentanyl, but not for purposes of this thread-just good pain control.
I don't really like hydromorphone that much either, unless it's injected, but I try to stay away from needles.
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Morphine - My favorite because of the intensity, the strong euphoria, and the long duration of analgesia
Oxycodone - Strong rush, strong euphoria, however doesn't last very long though
Hydrocodone - My first Opiate love, you never lose passion for this drug because every opiate user usually started off with few pills for surgery or whatever. I still love this drug in large amounts, such as 100-200mg. Great body high, good euphoria, and just very potent if taken in large doses. The downside is the acetaminophen which can harm your liver and kidneys in large doses. That can be bypassed using the Cold Water Extraction (CWE) method to remove the acetaminophen.
Propoxyphene - I loved this one just as much as hydrocodone, probably a tad bit more intense then Hydrocodone pill for pill but hydrocodone can easily defeat that with large doses. Also contains acetaminophen
Tramadol - Great potentiator and if taken in large doses it can be very strong and LONG lasting. I was pretty surprised because this isn't a narcotic or controlled substance. Not much euphoria as real opiates though IMO.
Buprenorphine (Suboxone w/ Naloxone too) - Last but not last by prescription opiate dependance medication. Very long high, strong, but can build a tolerance VERY fast
Hope that helps
Oxycodone - Strong rush, strong euphoria, however doesn't last very long though
Hydrocodone - My first Opiate love, you never lose passion for this drug because every opiate user usually started off with few pills for surgery or whatever. I still love this drug in large amounts, such as 100-200mg. Great body high, good euphoria, and just very potent if taken in large doses. The downside is the acetaminophen which can harm your liver and kidneys in large doses. That can be bypassed using the Cold Water Extraction (CWE) method to remove the acetaminophen.
Propoxyphene - I loved this one just as much as hydrocodone, probably a tad bit more intense then Hydrocodone pill for pill but hydrocodone can easily defeat that with large doses. Also contains acetaminophen
Tramadol - Great potentiator and if taken in large doses it can be very strong and LONG lasting. I was pretty surprised because this isn't a narcotic or controlled substance. Not much euphoria as real opiates though IMO.
Buprenorphine (Suboxone w/ Naloxone too) - Last but not last by prescription opiate dependance medication. Very long high, strong, but can build a tolerance VERY fast
Hope that helps
I'm seeing that most peoples experiences tend to be similar. I always figured that different opiates would affect different people differently. I guess it does, just not too drastically. All my friends are stoners. I don't hang out with a lot of constant opiate users, so I wasn't too sure. Thanks for all the input! =)
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Wait! Wait! Wait! Don't dis hydrocodone too much!
I have had IV diludid, morphine, Demerol, and some others I don't remember. But of course these were in the hospital. Yes, they all were by far the best ever for pain. Diludid instantly too away all pain I felt for a long time. It was awesome!
Hydrocodone is great! It takes away my pain (most of the time). I still get euphoria from my perscribed dose and I have used it for 18 months straight. I have no hangover in the morning. I'm a chatter box and it appears to help me focus on work.
I have had IV diludid, morphine, Demerol, and some others I don't remember. But of course these were in the hospital. Yes, they all were by far the best ever for pain. Diludid instantly too away all pain I felt for a long time. It was awesome!
Hydrocodone is great! It takes away my pain (most of the time). I still get euphoria from my perscribed dose and I have used it for 18 months straight. I have no hangover in the morning. I'm a chatter box and it appears to help me focus on work.
Hydromoprhone is MEANT to be shot up.....
Tricomb's list is spot on....and oxycodone can be insufflated or ingested to reach it's peak effects....i find it VERY euphoric and stimulating....i have never shot up any of these except heroin and DAMN the rush is unparalleled.....brought me to my knees saying "this is better than MDMA, this is WAY better than MDMA" .....somethign i thought i would never say
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Never understood how people could say Oxycodone is only "mildly" euphoric. Hell, I've NEVER had a more euphoric opiate and I've tried everything (except oxymorphone 
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Heroin, Hydromorphone, so on and so forth down the list...
But it's totally true, different people get different reaction from different drugs.
)Heroin, Hydromorphone, so on and so forth down the list...
But it's totally true, different people get different reaction from different drugs.
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For what it's worth, as a newbie here, I think that'd be cool
I've never ventured over there before, and I need to broaden my horizons!
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For what it's worth, as a newbie here, I think that'd be cool
Go forth and discover the various islands of bluelight my good man.
verso
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I'm tempted to close this thread, but I'll leave it open for a little while longer to see where it goes. It's just an incredibly subjective thing and so no one here can give you any real solid feedback.
In my opinion, I think that oxymorphone is more dreamy and euphoric than anything else, even more so than heroin. I would prefer to dose oxymorphone than heroin and oxymorphone is my drug of choice; but others would say that I'm crazy and heroin is by far the more dreamy and euphoric one. I often hear that oxycodone is more stimulating, and I would tend to agree, but others would disagree...
In my opinion, I think that oxymorphone is more dreamy and euphoric than anything else, even more so than heroin. I would prefer to dose oxymorphone than heroin and oxymorphone is my drug of choice; but others would say that I'm crazy and heroin is by far the more dreamy and euphoric one. I often hear that oxycodone is more stimulating, and I would tend to agree, but others would disagree...
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Verso,
May I P.M. you? I need info on Opana ir...esp the switch to said from oxycodone ir , and I DID get great feedback from the thread I started in O.D. about it...but like most (I'm assuming) I dont want to post personal details-that ARE on topic-with everyone.
I'm not crazy, just looking for people I can relate to & gain knowledge from.
I'm in the midst of a (what I consider to be) a life altering decision, and I would like to have a REAL conversation, even if its via pm or email.
Sorry if I seem too forward, but I am beginning to freak a bit, as my appt. is coming up soon.
Thanks.
May I P.M. you? I need info on Opana ir...esp the switch to said from oxycodone ir , and I DID get great feedback from the thread I started in O.D. about it...but like most (I'm assuming) I dont want to post personal details-that ARE on topic-with everyone.
I'm not crazy, just looking for people I can relate to & gain knowledge from.
I'm in the midst of a (what I consider to be) a life altering decision, and I would like to have a REAL conversation, even if its via pm or email.
Sorry if I seem too forward, but I am beginning to freak a bit, as my appt. is coming up soon.
Thanks.
Znegative
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Methadone: Methadone is a weird opioid in my oppinion, in that it is VERY potent, but the ammount I've always needed to get high has always been wayyyy larger than what is necessairy to keep me comfortable and out of withdrawals. The high, is very similar to heroin IMO, possibly more so than any other opioid I have tried, but it's a lot more sedating which I personally find to be annoying. Furthermore, tolerance builds insanely fast to methadone which is also a pain in the ass. I've kind of come to the conclusion that this drug is really best just for maintenance or detox. Getting high off of it is too difficult and dangerous, and the tolerance buildup is a real bitch.
Hydrocodone:There has literally only been one time in my life that I've had access to hydro, as well as a low enough tolerance to make taking it worthwhile at the same time, that being said, that one experience was really nice. I'll probably get shit for this, but if hydrocodone was more potent, I would prefer it to oxy. The buzz is very warm and stimulating, and it lasts a long time. I also found, strangely enough, that even when taken orally, hydrocodone sort of has a rush. Of course it takes a while to kick in, but it seems once it does, I feel like it peaks rather quickly.
Oxycodone: I'm one of the few idiots who's first opiate was heroin, and in fact, I had never seen an OxyContin pill until I had already been shooting dope for three years, and even to this day-I've only messed around with OxyContin or Oxy IR about 5 times. Oxy is a good opiate, but I personally feel that it's a little bit overhyped. As an IV drug user, I found both OxyContin and roxicodone huge dissapointments, as there is no rush whatsoever to speak of when injected. I'll just get that dope taste and then be immediately high. The actual buzz though, is very nice and stimulating, I just feel like its way to expensive of a drug for what it delivers.
Oxymorphone: When my friend hooked me up with the 10mg Opana IR's for the first time two years ago, I felt like I had been blown by an angel. Oxymorphone is probably my favorite opioid. The rush is better than heroin, the buzz is similar (but more euphoric) to oxycodone, and it is potent as fuck. I never thought it would be possible for an injected opioid to feel better than heroin, but IMO, oxymorphone is most definately superior. I also really like the high as well, it's pretty damn long lasting (even when injected), and like hydrocodone and oxycodone, it's a stimulating but a simultaneously calming experience. A fuckin' plus.
Heroin:The first opiate I tried. Heroin has it all as far as I'm concerned. The rush is incredible, the high even better. People talk of MDMA as being a very empathetic drug, but IMO, heroin is much more so. The high just makes me feel so comfortable and compassionate towards myself and others. I can litterally be in a room with my most hated enemy, and if I'm on smack, I'll find something beautiful about the individual. Dope also gives a more "natural" feeling high IMO, compared to the pharmaceuticals. It's definately more sedating than the Thebaine derivatives, but I still get a nice energy from it as long as I measure out my shots well. Heroin also gives me some very strange audio and sometimes even visual hallucinations if I'm nodding out. Sometimes I'll find myself talking to ghosts, but it's never a frightening experience, just another little oddity that I actually enjoy.
Buprenorphine:Buprenorphine as a recreational opioid is limited, in a similar way as methadone is. It's incredibly potent and has a long half life, meaning tolerance builds up fast as hell. However, if you aren't tolerant or addicted physically to strong opiates, buprenorphine can provide a very nice high, one that is better than methadone IMO. It feels a lot like hydrocodone or oxy to me, but even a little more stimulating. Due to the long half life, a suboxone high can be felt the next day, which is pretty awsome-even methadone could never do that for me. When injected, the rush is nothing to write home about, but the effects seem a bit cleaner-however, I've found plugging to be almost identicle in onset, but the duration is longer. As a maintenance drug, I also love bupe, because at a low dosage, I am consistantly able to get a nice high from it up, two times a day (I take half a milligram in the morning, and another half in the evening, sublingually). On a low maintenance dosage, suboxone/subutex acts even more as a stimulant to me, which is especially helpful, as there is no maintenance drugs for speed or cocaine.
Fentanyl: I've only tried fentanyl about five times, but I honestly do not like this drug, potent or not-that does not necessarily make it better. IME, fentanyl feels more like a VERY strong benzodiazepine rather than an opioid. The high is incredibly short lived, and the euphoria is pretty lame compared to oxycodone, oxymorphone or heroin. There is just something very cold about this narcotic, and it's way to sedating for my taste.
I've done other opiates/opioids as well but the rest of them have pretty much just sucked, so I don't want to waste time writing about them (I'm thinking about codeine, propoxyphene, and tramadol).
Hydrocodone:There has literally only been one time in my life that I've had access to hydro, as well as a low enough tolerance to make taking it worthwhile at the same time, that being said, that one experience was really nice. I'll probably get shit for this, but if hydrocodone was more potent, I would prefer it to oxy. The buzz is very warm and stimulating, and it lasts a long time. I also found, strangely enough, that even when taken orally, hydrocodone sort of has a rush. Of course it takes a while to kick in, but it seems once it does, I feel like it peaks rather quickly.
Oxycodone: I'm one of the few idiots who's first opiate was heroin, and in fact, I had never seen an OxyContin pill until I had already been shooting dope for three years, and even to this day-I've only messed around with OxyContin or Oxy IR about 5 times. Oxy is a good opiate, but I personally feel that it's a little bit overhyped. As an IV drug user, I found both OxyContin and roxicodone huge dissapointments, as there is no rush whatsoever to speak of when injected. I'll just get that dope taste and then be immediately high. The actual buzz though, is very nice and stimulating, I just feel like its way to expensive of a drug for what it delivers.
Oxymorphone: When my friend hooked me up with the 10mg Opana IR's for the first time two years ago, I felt like I had been blown by an angel. Oxymorphone is probably my favorite opioid. The rush is better than heroin, the buzz is similar (but more euphoric) to oxycodone, and it is potent as fuck. I never thought it would be possible for an injected opioid to feel better than heroin, but IMO, oxymorphone is most definately superior. I also really like the high as well, it's pretty damn long lasting (even when injected), and like hydrocodone and oxycodone, it's a stimulating but a simultaneously calming experience. A fuckin' plus.
Heroin:The first opiate I tried. Heroin has it all as far as I'm concerned. The rush is incredible, the high even better. People talk of MDMA as being a very empathetic drug, but IMO, heroin is much more so. The high just makes me feel so comfortable and compassionate towards myself and others. I can litterally be in a room with my most hated enemy, and if I'm on smack, I'll find something beautiful about the individual. Dope also gives a more "natural" feeling high IMO, compared to the pharmaceuticals. It's definately more sedating than the Thebaine derivatives, but I still get a nice energy from it as long as I measure out my shots well. Heroin also gives me some very strange audio and sometimes even visual hallucinations if I'm nodding out. Sometimes I'll find myself talking to ghosts, but it's never a frightening experience, just another little oddity that I actually enjoy.
Buprenorphine:Buprenorphine as a recreational opioid is limited, in a similar way as methadone is. It's incredibly potent and has a long half life, meaning tolerance builds up fast as hell. However, if you aren't tolerant or addicted physically to strong opiates, buprenorphine can provide a very nice high, one that is better than methadone IMO. It feels a lot like hydrocodone or oxy to me, but even a little more stimulating. Due to the long half life, a suboxone high can be felt the next day, which is pretty awsome-even methadone could never do that for me. When injected, the rush is nothing to write home about, but the effects seem a bit cleaner-however, I've found plugging to be almost identicle in onset, but the duration is longer. As a maintenance drug, I also love bupe, because at a low dosage, I am consistantly able to get a nice high from it up, two times a day (I take half a milligram in the morning, and another half in the evening, sublingually). On a low maintenance dosage, suboxone/subutex acts even more as a stimulant to me, which is especially helpful, as there is no maintenance drugs for speed or cocaine.
Fentanyl: I've only tried fentanyl about five times, but I honestly do not like this drug, potent or not-that does not necessarily make it better. IME, fentanyl feels more like a VERY strong benzodiazepine rather than an opioid. The high is incredibly short lived, and the euphoria is pretty lame compared to oxycodone, oxymorphone or heroin. There is just something very cold about this narcotic, and it's way to sedating for my taste.
I've done other opiates/opioids as well but the rest of them have pretty much just sucked, so I don't want to waste time writing about them (I'm thinking about codeine, propoxyphene, and tramadol).
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Yes of course you can PM me! We'll see how many more thoughtful responses this thread generates. My man Znegative just posted some real good stuff ^
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Oxymorphone: When my friend hooked me up with the 10mg Opana IR's for the first time two years ago, I felt like I had been blown by an angel. Oxymorphone is probably my favorite opioid. The rush is better than heroin, the buzz is similar (but more euphoric) to oxycodone, and it is potent as fuck. I never thought it would be possible for an injected opioid to feel better than heroin, but IMO, oxymorphone is most definately superior. I also really like the high as well, it's pretty damn long lasting (even when injected), and like hydrocodone and oxycodone, it's a stimulating but a simultaneously calming experience. A fuckin' plus....by Znegative
I know you said you iv most of the time, but have you ever taken this orally? If so, what was that experience like for you? Also wondering about immediate release.
Thanks! By the way, sorry for the way I quoted you...haven't figured out how to quote only a portion of someone else's post.
I know you said you iv most of the time, but have you ever taken this orally? If so, what was that experience like for you? Also wondering about immediate release.
Thanks! By the way, sorry for the way I quoted you...haven't figured out how to quote only a portion of someone else's post.
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Not that it makes any difference, but I'm a female lol. I'm not offended or anything ...I've realized my name sounds sort of masculine
