(Desoxypipradrol/10 mgs) First experience: Which way is Poland?!

[Chips]

I'm in the end of my first try of desoxypipradrol.
I took 3 mg in the morning 3 days ago.
I didn't get good high from it as some of you.

I had difficulties to handle task, especially to focus on them.
I could talk to myself for hours, always discussing about the same thing.
The second day, i felt some derealization of the world around me.

I was feeling my heart beat quite much, and felt as if i took too much stimulants with some chest pain.
Hopefully, i had some clonazepam to calm a bit and melatonin as sleep aids.

At least, i have felt some wave of euphoria. And following a medium clonazepam dose i was in a cleanly stimulated and peacefull state. I ended they day with a bike ride in my town at 4am. This looks like more what you guys are reporting...

So much trouble for so short high. But no others stims did give me this cleanly stimulated and peacefull state (could it be due to clonazepam ?).

Did i took too much as a first try ?
Is there others shorter stims that can give same clean headspace as i get for short time ?

 

[(zonk)]

What do any of you think about replacing the piperidine with Piperazine might turn out. Not that I think that would be a better stimulant or anything. Just that it's uber cheap and more available.


Also, before I even spend the tiny amount of loot for DPMPZ, I don't particularly like methylphenidate. It's a weak stim(at any dose) compared to 1 of my Adderall. MPH makes me irritable too. PCP/DXM are both much more stimulating than ritalin too. Does anyone else no where I'm coming from? Should I even bother if it's so close to MPH?

 

[Funchameleon]

questions

Hello,

Been reading this thread, 1st time poster now. I first ingested something around 10mg (oral) on friday, then slept about 5 hours dosed 10mg or a bit more (SNORTED).. Been up ever since and now I'm finally starting to lose ability to even concentrate reading anything due to sleep deprivation, so I thought I'll try some sleeping (without downers or anything ), first making a post though.....

Any idea when this sleep deprivation effect might come down, what have been your experiences? What does it feel if anything, when it finally starts to lose grip... like, being a little tired almost like I was earlier?

Eariler today I had some fucking crazy muscle twitches mostly in my chest, why do they keep appearing.. theyre going again so crazy I dunno if I'll have any success of sleeping, though apparently feeling a little tired too now and not just sleep-deprived (which is to the extent that there's tiny color bits dancing around these letters as I write)

What causes said twitches, how to get rid of em, any idea? They really are distracting in this extent, whatever you do... almost a little painful

There... while my concentration is still here.. just enough to keep me awake too, without a choice..

Thanks in advance

 

[SoulSeekerHS]

oh... Hope you caught some sleep by now.

But you know, you should have expected that from 20mg desoxy...

I would guess you could sleep after making that post tho. Should feel fine by now Let us know whats up.
If you STILL cant sleep, it might be time to try and get some downers. I am not a friend of counter-acting an upper with a downer, but by now I would think sleeping is much more important than any other concern right now. DONT OVER DOSE AGAIN THO! Dont think you will need more because of your state. I would actually think just a bit should knock you out just fine.

Ok, hope your well.
Bye

 

[Funchameleon]

Yeah just got 8 hours of sleep and woke up now.. which is how much I could force myself sleep (5+3 h) during 5 days before this. Was gonna try some melatonin before downers but didn't need that either..


lol @ my post there..

anyway, do you guys think magnesium oxide interacts with this? I took it because I read magnesium hydroxide can hasten an NDRI leaving your body (but could also make blood levels of said NDRI higher for some time)

Not sure if I noticed either... and most magnesium just helps with tolerance I guess which I wont be needing help with here :D


edit: God damn it! When is this stuff finally going to leave my system? My eyes are still dilated most of the time and yesterday it started to make them kind of irritated and photosensitive... haven't done anything that would dilate them since the second one of two 10(+2?)mg doses a week ago (except last night some melatonin, and I think the dilation started to end yesterday maybe) Now they're dilated and becoming irritated again, maybe I need to put some drops in them or something. Helped a lot to adjust screen brightness to zero.. guess I'll have to find those pilot sunglasses too.

Also, I had a minimal amount of caffeine from a soft drink and the comedown effects of desoxypipradol came right back, shaky and a racing heart and other general discomfort (don't normally get that even from a strong cup of coffee). Seems like the effects are going away (except that bpm is still elevated for an indefinite time) as fast as they came, though. Still, I think I'll postpone the use of some substances I planned on doing today.. Because a similar "boost" to anything slightly stimulating would just ruin it.

I don't personally see a lot of potential here, for recreational use at least. The doses which avoid lingering unpleasant effects are, I suppose, around 1-5mg but it still was pretty average in terms of being recreational with the two ~10mg doses I did on friday and.. wait, I thought the last one was on saturday but it was sunday now that I think about it. Goddamn sleeplessness leaves some confusing memories. :D

 

[kratt]

Hey, hamhurricance!

After you course of taking desoxy on daily basis for months..
any withdrawal symptoms when you dropped?

 

[stevein7]

My first post...



Like all the other stuff discussed, 2-dpmp has to be dosed properly.

first time round I took a tiny amount (eyeballed) and it was fine.

Second time I deliberately took much more and missed 4 nights sleep, felt not too terrible but at work my power of speech felt retarded and I was struggling to remain composed. I told people I was on painkillers as I had strained my back, so no real problem. However, at home I was OK ish.

Third time I took a tiny amount, smallest of all, (all of these doses eyeballed) and it was great for work, everything. My job is pretty intellectual, and focussed on speaking, and I felt much better than usual.

with correct dosing this stuff is fine and should not be discriminated against, all I have read about it indicates it is pretty healthy as far as stims go and deserves better.

Its long lasting effects are a plus point, 1 dose in the morning lets me sleep at night, the fact that tiny doses are effective are a plus point: its ridiculously cheap.

I see a gram of this stuff lasting me years, unless it deteriorates, I plan on doing a few specks once a week. Mondays.

My next step is buy a .001g scale.

It slightly surpresses appetite, and as a person with a long history of fighting the flab, I appreciate that.

So, for the cautious, the reponsible and the controlled, this can be a very positive addition to your lifestyle, to others, any substance is going to wreck them.



How was that for the first post?

 

[Coolio]

I wonder if mine is degraded. I tried 5mg and it didn't even last 8 hours...

 

[stevein7]

Maybe, maybe its you, but if I read between the lines, you can get the effect with a higher dose?

I suppose its an individual thing. Quoting from earlier on, someone seems to get a big buzz out of 4-5mg.....


just popped my my cherry on this one. ~4mg (50mg +/- 5mg dissolved in water to permit accurate dosing). i don't feel the urge to blather on and on about this one except the temptation to dose it as soon as it arrives in the post overwhelms common sense and a dose at 2:30pm is guaranteed to result in no sleep until after midnight.

just a good clean, long lasting effect. (although bear in mind this was dosed with 150mg of mebicar and 80mg of verapamil both of which reduce the chances of hypertension, tachycardia, anxiety and stupidity).

trying to sleep is weird, getting this weird sensation on my skin where it is in contact with the bed, but oddly when upright and in an equally static position this effect does not occur. mild incidence of hayfeverishness at around 10 hours after dosing which probably is just from the indoor dust and is not uncommon. drugs which cause sleeplessness usually have some, usually selective histamine 3 activity and i guess in this case it is slightly unselective as the word 'histamine' gets a few hits on this thread.

will be going out for the early morning predawn ride that i couldn't get myself up for during the two days between running out of mdpv and the arrival of the 2dpmp in a couple of hours, probably preceded by a 5mg dose.

now that i am in that post 8 hours part i'm starting to notice my particular variety of 'psychosis' symptoms mainly consisting of obsessing about the state of my physical health, although at this point not bad as i sometimes get and i did find during my first run on mdpv that hydration helped a lot. paraesthesia and intensified sense of smell doesn't help though. basically i just feel like i want to go on a big long ride on my bike and come home and have a bath and actually wash myself properly rather than the not so thorough efforts of late.

assuming i don't have an ongoing problem of sleeplessness, which i can't be sure about until i've dosed at the time of day i would normally be dosing (3am just before my predawn ride) - the lack of needing to think about redosing the drug and the long smooth effect is very preferable. the effectiveness at treating ADD symptoms is unquestionable.

edit: as it turned out i did fall asleep before 3am, probably almost exactly 12 hours after dosing. now to find something non-rambling to do while the rest of the world wakes up and such things as vacuuming become socially acceptable.

I 'd be interested as to its effeccts with mdpv,mephedrone, MDPPP and others. I'd guess that the background hum of a little ,subtle 2-dpmp may be a positive addition. Obviously the risk factor is climbing and smart dosing is of the essence.

 

[Coolio]

I don't know, I haven't tried a larger dose yet. I used to eyeball it years ago; now I'm weighing it.

 

[kken]

i combined 10mg desoxypipradrol and 10mg of mdpv (30 mins after desoxy. adding this didnt alter bpm at all) damn did it make me super duper hyper-sexual. way more than mdpv alone. had a great time no bad come downs or anything. Very good mind high for looong time. Orgasm feels blissful. Strong appetite suppression for 1-2h then back to baseline


MDPPP (50mg) + desoxypipradrol (10mg) = not so good experience for me. really raised my bp for very long time + uncomfortable feeling for about 1-2h. High was crap compared to mdpv+desoxy
then again i get high bpm from mdppp alone but that goes away very fast. When combined it didnt go away . Caution needed if mdppp works like that for you!
no sexual impact from this combo. Except maybe little increased libido. Orgasm felt normal. Strong appetite supression from this combo that lasted as long as desoxy was in my system


next test with desoxypipradrol 10mg and 70mg butylone then later with methylone. Im guessing this doesnt mix well with butylone but we'll see



added note as harm reduction: ALWAYS make sure you have used both substances at least a few times so you know how much to dose. Lower the amount of both substances by half at least for the first time. Preferably 1/4

 

[kken]

plasma half-life of this substance seems to increase exponentially compared to the dose

10mg for me is best for 24h hour session and then i can go sleep
15mg and i cant sleep for 50-90 hours


decided not to test with butylone or methylone as there is some evidence of possible increase in neurotoxicity

 

[alphabetalactone]

Desoxy is the devils drug, I posted my experience in the dark side forum. Was hallucinating for days on end after taking 300mg. Was very dumb but I wasn't myself after the first line.

 

[SoulSeekerHS]

after taking 300mg.

*sigh* oh dear...
Dont take it personal, but people have to learn some fucking restraint. There is just no excuse for taking 300mg of a substance you should know not to exceed 10mg with if you want it to be pleasurable... Even the 30mg starting dose was a guaranteed disaster.

Well, glad you are here to tell the tale.

PS: 10mg will probably be to much allready. Read this thread from the beginning if you plan on using this substance. start with 2mg, DONT REDOSE. wait a full day, go to 4mg if you didnt think it "worked" with 2mg, DONT REDOSE. Wait another day (Atleast) and try 5-6mg, LEAVE IT AT THAT if you didnt think 5-6mg was something you like. And be assured: IF you decide to take 10mg or more, plan ahead. Have the next days cleared up, as there is a good chance you will need them to ride this one out...

I attached some images for comparison if you are stupid enough (I was...) to eyeball this substance. These are not pictures of desoxy, so even take those with a few grains of salt ;-)

 

[alphabetalactone]

*sigh* oh dear...
Dont take it personal, but people have to learn some fucking restraint. There is just no excuse for taking 300mg of a substance you should know not to exceed 10mg with if you want it to be pleasurable... Even the 30mg starting dose was a guaranteed disaster.

Well, glad you are here to tell the tale.

PS: 10mg will probably be to much allready. Read this thread from the beginning if you plan on using this substance. start with 2mg, DONT REDOSE. wait a full day, go to 4mg if you didnt think it "worked" with 2mg, DONT REDOSE. Wait another day (Atleast) and try 5-6mg, LEAVE IT AT THAT if you didnt think 5-6mg was something you like. And be assured: IF you decide to take 10mg or more, plan ahead. Have the next days cleared up, as there is a good chance you will need them to ride this one out...

I attached some images for comparison if you are stupid enough (I was...) to eyeball this substance. These are not pictures of desoxy, so even take those with a few grains of salt ;-)

no probs mate, believe me i learnt a very valuable lesson from those few days of insanity. Im a case subject of what not to do with this stuff.

 

[Refluxer]

Is Desoxypipradrol currently legal in the UK?

 

[Coolio]

Same here. I luckily had mine stored away by a friend for a couple years while I was on the other side of the country. I am running real low now that I have it back though...

 

[Vacuumhed]

What is the recreational value of this substance, if there is any? How does it compare to say damphetamine in focus/motivational enhancement?

 

[Xorkoth]

I find it fairly recreational... not to the extent of the most popular stimulants. Focus and motivation of d-amp is better in my experience, but desoxy has some very nice qualities. It's definitely harder to dose right and get the effects you desire, however. And of course the duration is pretty unique and plays heavily its effects and usefulness as a recreational substance.

 

[Vacuumhed]

I find it fairly recreational... not to the extent of the most popular stimulants. Focus and motivation of d-amp is better in my experience, but desoxy has some very nice qualities. It's definitely harder to dose right and get the effects you desire, however. And of course the duration is pretty unique and plays heavily its effects and usefulness as a recreational substance.

Sounds like this would make me hyperboy, should avoid. My self control is lacking enough to make me chase a high even when knowing something is not gonna make me feel as good as drug x. oh man, I don't wanna reexperience that horrible insomnia I once had.

Ever used it as a mixer though?

Thanks for sharing.