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(Desoxypipradrol/10 mgs) First experience: Which way is Poland?!

In addition, I do not think we have very much time left to us. Whether that is 10 years, 20, or a century it doesn't really matter. We need to work on things RIGHT NOW as we see it. We (I) have to accept what I feel and believe in my heart is correct and I have to help people understand these realizations as well (RIGHT NOW).

Your view (syntelman) may lead to a paralysis and stagnation in action, an existentialism if you will.

Bottom line, stimulant use (ceteris paribus) decreases your ability to realize the aspect of LOVE in reality that is essential for saving yourself, others, and the planet as a whole.

Like you correctly pointed out, its just my view, and others very well don't share it (this thread makes that obvious). But, I have to believe I can help others (if not only myself).
 
MDPVagrant said:
Watch out for some degree of emotional depression following daily use (more than 2-3 days in a row). It's short-lasting but can be non-trivial. Nothing unusual with any stimulant stronger than caffeine, of course, and if you're normally immune you probably will be in this case too.

P.S. not related to my recent posts in the 'dark side' forum, which involve entirely different issues (primarily quitting kratom + actual real-life bad sh*t happening).
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Eh, yeah. I think it's faded by now.

As far as stimulants go, this stuff is awesome, from my perspective (that of a person who's not a hueg stimulant fan). It did make my sweat smell bad though, which hasn't entirely gone away yet though (4 days after the last dose). Man, that stuff makes me sweat :(

As far as its effects, I love how it produces a very quick onset of pleasant stimulation and mild mood lift, but then the euphoria doesn't fully kick in for many hours. When it does, I can't stop talking to save my life. But for some reason, I was only unable to sleep one night on this, the night of the experience I am writing about, and that night also involved other stimulant-ish things.

On Sunday night, I ended up having a pretty incredible experience that was actually pretty psychedelic, surprisingly enough, despite having had no psychedelics in longer than I can remember (EDIT: meaning I've had a longer break than I've had in a long time. Of course I can remember the last time I had a psychedelic! =D). I'm writing a report about it but I'm busy with work and feeling rather unmotivated and disconnected.

Smiling samadhi, I both agree and disagree with you. And if the comment about using it all week being detrimental was directed partially or fully at me, then that's one of the things I definitely agree with.

I have definitely used stimulants to good effect to kick myself out of a rut before. The problem is that full-on stimulants tend to produce a state which leaves nothing as it leaves except most probably a feeling of emptiness. A single use can be useful, but too often it becomes much more than a single use. That's why I like to have a handful or fewer doses of something which I can't readily get back, and use it up quick.

Anyway, I can't determine objectively whether the apathy I'm feeling (compared to before) is due to my work overload the past two weeks, the desoxypipradrol, or the lack of psychedelics during the past couple of weeks. Too many factors changed at once.
 
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I'd bet it's actually more a result of stress and desoxy rather than lack of psychedelics. Stress and stimulants got me feeling really crappy about two weeks ago (no desoxy included), and it took me a good week to recover. This was pretty moderate stim usage too. Stims are nice to have, but you have to remember they're not sustainable ... any dopaminergic makes you pay for the increased dopamine afterward. I know the disconnected feeling your talking about. With stims, the drawbacks usually outweight the benefits for me. I made a comment about this in a thread in Other Drugs.
 
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^ ditto. been there several times.
programming marathons & stimulants will do that to you.
 
I so agree that stims aren't sustainable. For me, not even caffeine.

Actually I tried the desoxy again today. (I am one of the few who did not like it, for I unwisely dived in at approx. 12mg and stupidly added a psychedelic a few hours into the until then euphoric experience, and the whole experience left me strung out, short-tempered and frail for 2 to 3 days afterwards).

I've recently been having a few tired/irritable days in a row and today required me to be all nice and easy for a prolonged period of time. I took approx. 1 (one) mg of the desoxy round lunchtime.... and it was good. It's now T+10 and I am back home and ready for bed... even felt sleepy an hour after dosing, but then that feeling went away. At that dose it was very subtle but definitely real. Effective at quietening the interior monologue and bringing me a tad more into the Here and Now without any strain. Will pursue this further.

Btw, this compound is not at all anorexic at such a low dose level. I ate like a horse all day.
 
Refluxer said:
Never tried having sex on it. It never gave any hint on that kind of effect. I guess I'm an odd one on that. Personally, I feel that drug-induced compulsiveness isn't very positive most of the time.
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Same thing here. Not a hint of impetus towards erotic activities at all.
 
^ Most (I suspect ) are using oral administration after dilution in water for easy accurate measuring (wise).
Some will be plugging it.


Some (like me) would use intranasally, though more than 1mg TBH.

But for a first time 1mg would be a decent starting point.
 
pseudointellectual said:
is there information on solubility? I may've overlooked it in the thread.
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As far as I'm aware it's readily soluble in water (and I assume in ethanol too) but you wouldn't want to make the solution particularly concentrated anyway...
 
zophen said:
^ Most (I suspect ) are using oral administration after dilution in water for easy accurate measuring (wise).
Some will be plugging it.


Some (like me) would use intranasally, though more than 1mg TBH.
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And at least one fool smoked it...:\ 10mg gives a great rush... if you like your rushes lasting for HOURS!
 
pseudointellectual said:
how do some of you dose 1mg? what ROA do you use?
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well, I just had a teeny tiny bit on my finger tip. Approx 0.5-1.5mg (I know what 10mg looks like so I'm sure I wasn't off by much, I mean tiny when I say tiny).

Felt fine that night and slept well and woke refreshed and had a nice day the next day too. That day all Ihad to keep my spirits up was 2 teabags of maté de coca (coca leaves) wedged in my mouth and sucked on for 30mins or so each... one round 2pm and one early evening. Felt fine all day.

Maybe I just feel so great cos I haven't smoked any tobacco or cannabis for 2 days (in-laws visiting, and I'm happy to have them keep up their belief that I am a non-smoker). The odd thing is I've had almost no cravings.
 
^Errr... I smoked mine, mate. It's sort of INSTANT that way. I figured the faster it go in, the faster it would get out.... how wrong I was. I figure this is a once or twice a year thing for me. Something like 52 hours without moving from my PC cannot be, in any way, healthy!
 
~4 mg early in the morning produced a pleasant wakeful state until late evening, when the weak substance alimemazine was taken to promote sleep (which came easily). experience felt like a low dose MDPV, with longer half-life. Next assay is up 1 mg in dose.
 
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