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(Desoxypipradrol/10 mgs) First experience: Which way is Poland?!
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I have an inquiry about the first few hours of a strong dose of desoxy. Does it remind anyone of cocaine?
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toolazy2think
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has anyone found a way to lessen the duration of this one? I'd seriously consider picking some up if I was confident I wouldn't go a night without sleep every day I wanted to dose...Even a duration of 16 hours I could deal with, just dose in the morning and sleep 8 hours at night, but I don't know how I'd deal with the chronic sleep deprivation that would seem to be the case through normal sized doses.
Smoking or nasally? Would that lessen the duration to anything tolerable?
Smoking or nasally? Would that lessen the duration to anything tolerable?
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Probably only tolerance or individual variations. It would be interesting to examine a "soft drug" analog of desoxypipradrol. I'd bet sticking a methyl on one of the phenyls could reduce the half life. Anybody got crystal data on DAT/NAT with bound inhibitors (mph, pip, amph)? Maybe there aren't any?
Started yawning some by midnight yesterday. Still stayed up til late. Sleep was similar to when after amphetamine (weird, light sleep, full of naughty thoughts and dreams, etc), but less anxiety. Felt pretty drained when getting up after 6 hours of rest. Reloaded with 13 mg's to make the day workable. Hopefully "normal" sleep will be possible late tonight, but I'm not surprised if it's not.
The half life of this sucker is the biggest obstacle keeping it from being a potential blockbuster.
Started yawning some by midnight yesterday. Still stayed up til late. Sleep was similar to when after amphetamine (weird, light sleep, full of naughty thoughts and dreams, etc), but less anxiety. Felt pretty drained when getting up after 6 hours of rest. Reloaded with 13 mg's to make the day workable. Hopefully "normal" sleep will be possible late tonight, but I'm not surprised if it's not.
The half life of this sucker is the biggest obstacle keeping it from being a potential blockbuster.
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^ We're too busy bowling and shit like that, we'll trounce you later!
toolazy2think: I do not know about any other methods of administration, but I think any potential sleep deprivation heavily relies on dosage and on individual reactions to the drug. I had no problems at all sleeping at night when dosing low (2 mg) at morning. Certainly not a recreational dose but personally enough for good stimulation/motivation to do stuff. As I can see most of the cases where people have stayed up for days involve either pretty heavy doses and/or constant re-dosing. But I also think that a "good" dose will keep most people up for atleast 24 hours. For me it's just a matter of timing/planning the intake (do it saturday afternoon, party/work all night and you'll sleep well on sunday night). I see no problems staying awake for 24 hours if it's a pleasant ride which for most people seems to be the case.
Currently on 6 mg. Feels good, but not GOOD.
Doing some work I've been wanting to do for a long time, while occasionally dancing inbetween. :D I actually had hoped that 6 mg would do more considering my first trial with 2 mg was very positive. But I didn't take it on a completely empty stomach today (which I think you probably should). Will see how long it will keep me up. Maybe re-dose a few mg in a few hours. Am a bit curious on how coffeine will affect it considering someone here stated earlier that it up'ed the euphoria a bit.
I'll recommend anyone coming into contact with this drug to start low, advance slow and learn your individual reaction to it (which should be true for any drug really but especially important with this long half life and high potency).
Currently on 6 mg. Feels good, but not GOOD.
Doing some work I've been wanting to do for a long time, while occasionally dancing inbetween. :D I actually had hoped that 6 mg would do more considering my first trial with 2 mg was very positive. But I didn't take it on a completely empty stomach today (which I think you probably should). Will see how long it will keep me up. Maybe re-dose a few mg in a few hours. Am a bit curious on how coffeine will affect it considering someone here stated earlier that it up'ed the euphoria a bit.
I'll recommend anyone coming into contact with this drug to start low, advance slow and learn your individual reaction to it (which should be true for any drug really but especially important with this long half life and high potency).
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Syntelman: IME caffeine with these kind of stimulants, especially methylphenidate gives mainly added physical side effects and some anxiety. Maybe it's just me?
Anyway, I think I've figured this substance out somewhat now. In decent (more than just a little) doses it's definitely not for daily dosing. (Like Ciba seemed to have found out a long time ago.) This stuff shines when taken in moderately large doses either early in the morning or, like syntelman says, in the afternoon with the idea of staying up until the next evening. What a large dose is, is very individual of course! One should never start high with any compound one is naive to!
Used with respect, this substance can be both euphoric and useful. Perhaps it might be one of the best choices to cram for exams on, if a moderate dose is used early in the morning.
Take care everybody!
Anyway, I think I've figured this substance out somewhat now. In decent (more than just a little) doses it's definitely not for daily dosing. (Like Ciba seemed to have found out a long time ago.) This stuff shines when taken in moderately large doses either early in the morning or, like syntelman says, in the afternoon with the idea of staying up until the next evening. What a large dose is, is very individual of course! One should never start high with any compound one is naive to!
Used with respect, this substance can be both euphoric and useful. Perhaps it might be one of the best choices to cram for exams on, if a moderate dose is used early in the morning.
Take care everybody!
Jabberwocky
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Sounds like an utter shit drug to me and a good way to wreck your body short and long-term.
samadhi smiles: That was a most constructive post. Very informative. :D
Refluxed: Yeah, coffeine itself tend to have that effect on me (in larger doses). Drank 2 Red Bulls during the evening (approx 2 hours apart) but can't really say if it made any difference at all. Neither negative or positive.
6 mg hit me pretty good. I found the first few hours to be the most euphoric and pushy. Worked for almost 5 hours straight (out of character deluxe). Very dry mouth and had to drink large amounts of water. When work was finished I took a moment to relax which felt good. Marched off to the supermarket an hour later and was instantly re-filled with energy. Nitzer Ebb gave a good kickstart! Back at home I got stuck in the sofa in front of the TV for a couple of hours. Almost fell asleep at midnight and decided that although I had counted on staying awake all night I could give bed a try. Body fell asleep pretty soon, but not my mind. A very well defined part of my brain refused to sleep and for every z I catched it threw two away. Weird feeling. Just like the seconds before you normally fall asleep except that you actually didn't fall asleep and remained in that state forever. A bit trippy, and slightly annoying. Admitted to myself that I would not sleep for at least a couple of hours. Shook my head and body and got back up again. Currently feel a little bit tired but at the same time fully wide awake and it's not unpleasant in any way (yet).
As I stated earlier I found the first hours to be the most "stimulated" (and in a quite pushy way) while after this phase has leveled out I could choose to either slow down a bit (no problems sitting still) or further or pump it up with physical activity.
Conclusions!
+ Good clean stimulation with increased motivation and concentration.
+ Happy happy mood lift accompanied by occasional euphoria.
+ Bumped up social skills.
+ Low (but still very evident) anorectic activity.
- Long long long half life.
- Nausea following food intake.
- Definately would not mind if the Euphoria-knob was cranked up a few notches.
IMHO nowhere near perfect or really really GREAT, but still pretty good (and useful) stuff. Obviously not for anyone searching for intense euphoria or not willing to stay awake for 24 hours. Rather subtle stuff. Will probably aim for 10 mg next time.
Refluxed: Yeah, coffeine itself tend to have that effect on me (in larger doses). Drank 2 Red Bulls during the evening (approx 2 hours apart) but can't really say if it made any difference at all. Neither negative or positive.
6 mg hit me pretty good. I found the first few hours to be the most euphoric and pushy. Worked for almost 5 hours straight (out of character deluxe). Very dry mouth and had to drink large amounts of water. When work was finished I took a moment to relax which felt good. Marched off to the supermarket an hour later and was instantly re-filled with energy. Nitzer Ebb gave a good kickstart! Back at home I got stuck in the sofa in front of the TV for a couple of hours. Almost fell asleep at midnight and decided that although I had counted on staying awake all night I could give bed a try. Body fell asleep pretty soon, but not my mind. A very well defined part of my brain refused to sleep and for every z I catched it threw two away. Weird feeling. Just like the seconds before you normally fall asleep except that you actually didn't fall asleep and remained in that state forever. A bit trippy, and slightly annoying. Admitted to myself that I would not sleep for at least a couple of hours. Shook my head and body and got back up again. Currently feel a little bit tired but at the same time fully wide awake and it's not unpleasant in any way (yet).
As I stated earlier I found the first hours to be the most "stimulated" (and in a quite pushy way) while after this phase has leveled out I could choose to either slow down a bit (no problems sitting still) or further or pump it up with physical activity.
Conclusions!
+ Good clean stimulation with increased motivation and concentration.
+ Happy happy mood lift accompanied by occasional euphoria.
+ Bumped up social skills.
+ Low (but still very evident) anorectic activity.
- Long long long half life.
- Nausea following food intake.
- Definately would not mind if the Euphoria-knob was cranked up a few notches.
IMHO nowhere near perfect or really really GREAT, but still pretty good (and useful) stuff. Obviously not for anyone searching for intense euphoria or not willing to stay awake for 24 hours. Rather subtle stuff. Will probably aim for 10 mg next time.
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Your mind would be first to suffer IMO!
In many ways he has a valid point! (S_S I mean)
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Absolutely.
I just found the comment to be funnily placed.
Desoxypipradrol is probably a drug that the majority of drug users would not enjoy to any greater extent.
BTW. Got very tired at 6AM, went to bed at 7 and fell asleep literally within 5 seconds. That is 20 hours after dosing. Could probably have fallen asleep easily 1 or 2 hours before that. Forced myself out of bed at 11 (didn't want to disturb my sleeping pattern, workday tomorrow) and currently feel pretty decent although a bit sleepy. Also some minor headache.
Absolutely.
I just found the comment to be funnily placed.
Desoxypipradrol is probably a drug that the majority of drug users would not enjoy to any greater extent.
BTW. Got very tired at 6AM, went to bed at 7 and fell asleep literally within 5 seconds. That is 20 hours after dosing. Could probably have fallen asleep easily 1 or 2 hours before that. Forced myself out of bed at 11 (didn't want to disturb my sleeping pattern, workday tomorrow) and currently feel pretty decent although a bit sleepy. Also some minor headache.
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B9
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I get that also, nothing ferocious just a dull slightly irritating off and on headache.
I am envious of those of you who have sources for these substances. The entire RC craze seems to have flown right over my head and gone underground, like a big mole; burrowing away from me.
Well, lovely trip reports; I'd be delighted to give some of these fascinating drugs a try some time, though I dislike stimulants that are prone to creating paranoia and exacerbating anxiety...
Well, lovely trip reports; I'd be delighted to give some of these fascinating drugs a try some time, though I dislike stimulants that are prone to creating paranoia and exacerbating anxiety...
Jabberwocky
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I think we as humans are much better off not using stimulants long-term. They have nothing to offer us, they will only detract from our potential to fully realize that which is fundamental to reality (LOVE).
Tread cautiously with stimulant use if your goal is to become a more fully realized person.
Tread cautiously with stimulant use if your goal is to become a more fully realized person.
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I agree, but I am shit at practice and a whizz kid
at theory!
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samadhi_smiles said:
I don't agree. It depends on why and how you dose it. Obviously, it can be utter disaster for someone who can't control their use. I wonder how it would work for narcoleptics?
The second day was noticably less good/enjoyable by the way.
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Personally I fail to see how passing judgement and making generalizations is good for self improvement. I think that all drugs have the possibility to cause both negative and positive effects. However in my experience drugs very seldomly have permant effects on the personality at all (if not being abused, i.e daily or in some cases even weekly for long periods of time) and this is true for all types of drugs including psychedelics and stimulants. But both these types of drugs (and any other type) obviously can cloud the mind to the fullest extent. You just either believe that Secret Service is in the closet or that an UFO has landed in your garden. :D
In my opinion it in the end all depends solely upon the user and how he or she is using, and not what kind of drugs are being (ab)used. And what is true for you may not be true for me, and tomorrow we both may feel the exact opposite. The possibility to find usefulness in a drug clearly differs from person to person and is not a well defined fact or universal truth.
In my opinion it in the end all depends solely upon the user and how he or she is using, and not what kind of drugs are being (ab)used. And what is true for you may not be true for me, and tomorrow we both may feel the exact opposite. The possibility to find usefulness in a drug clearly differs from person to person and is not a well defined fact or universal truth.
Jabberwocky
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True, and to be clear I'm not trying to pass judgement on anybody. I speak only for myself in my posts (and sometimes not even for me sometimes I speak for SWIM ).
But, honestly, I feel very strongly about the destructive qualities in stimulant use, so I will voice my opinion whenever I feel like its right to do so, because I want to help people share my view (which I think is correct).
I'm sure infrequent use is not that detrimental, but using it through the entire week (and eventually becoming dependent on it to function) is no good, imo, for long-term realization.
peace!
).But, honestly, I feel very strongly about the destructive qualities in stimulant use, so I will voice my opinion whenever I feel like its right to do so, because I want to help people share my view (which I think is correct).
I'm sure infrequent use is not that detrimental, but using it through the entire week (and eventually becoming dependent on it to function) is no good, imo, for long-term realization.
peace!