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(Desoxypipradrol/10 mgs) First experience: Which way is Poland?!

It probably won't act that much more briefly, as is indicated by the experiences of those who've vaporized the compound. For a compound lasting all day or longer, the amount of time you 'cut off' with rapid routes of administration in comparison to routes involving a slower climb to peak plasma concentration is pretty minor.

ebola
 
Hello. Anyone know what's the duration when 2-dpmp is plugged? I'd assume it's shorter than oral, which I have found disturbingly long lived.

It's a long lived fucking drug not to mess with still. Plugged or eaten. With this drug, I can't really see the benefit of plugging, but I haven't tried.... However, I do know that if you do plug som 2-DPMP up your butt, don't redo it the coming days and think it will do something good to you.
 
Ok, it was probably a pretty stupid idea to take this weird drug once again in the first place, no matter what ROA, but it did actually work very nicely plugged. I didnt have any GI problems which have usually bothered me immensely when taken orally, diarrhea, stomach ache, gas etc.

Nice stimulation. I can't really say how the duration compares to oral though, but it's very long lived with rectal route too.

Hmm, I also drank a couple of beers and took small amounts of diazepam (5 mg), alprazolam (0.25mg) and oxazepam (7.5mg) throughout the night and morning.. yikes.. plus 150 mg of pregabalin, i felt like these supplements made the experience much more smooth, especially alprazolam seemed to have a more pronounced positive effect

Last time I took 2-dpmp few months ago I got the worst goddamn comedown ever and it took me two weeks to recover...... so I'm not sure why I decided to take it once again last night. Feeling pretty fine at the moment.
 
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However, I do know that if you do plug som 2-DPMP up your butt, don't redo it the coming days and think it will do something good to you.
Sorry but could you clarify this a bit? What I mean is, did you refer just generally to redosing 2-dpmp which is notorious for it's devilish nature, or do you mean there's some other kind of threat associated with plugging this substance repeatedly?
thanks :)
 
I think I need to talk a little more about my experience, when i'm feeling a bit more coherent and have the time :) I think i should maybe continue in the Desoxy thread from EADD instead of this one? Or is there an "official" desoxy thread here somewhere.

But just a quick comment for now, this was my maybe fifth time taking desoxy? Previously I've been either underwhelmed, annoyed or downright destroyed by the exps, but for some reason, I quess just out of despair decided to take it one more time.......... and I have to say this has been mostly surprisingly pleasant time with desoxy! even though it's also been the most extreme one and I did pretty pretty much every stupid ass fucking idiotic mistake every careless jackass has done with Desoxy, thinking they can beat it's power... but desoxy works in mysterious ways.

Luckily the one mistake I didn't make was to take ridiculously high silly doses, which has probably saved me from entering the psycho realm... at least so far, haha!

I'm still a bit under the influence, but i'll get back to you. thanks. though i'm not sure if anyones interested in desoxy anymore?
 
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This has to be the longest trip report thread in the history of bluelight! Btw, which way is Poland? Have we figured that out yet? Haha!
 
I recently accidently smoked like 200 mg of this god damn crap. It was confused for a cannabinoid (mind you i was already high on pregabalin, phenibut and ethanol). I had the longest come down in my history of drug abuse. After the first night i could sleep with the help of downers. But i could hardly do my work, because the rest at night was so bad. I usually woke up before the alarm rang and i was exremly alert and stimulated couldnt take ANY caffeine at all. When i came back from work i was extremely exhausted and trembling. I also had some terrible long lasting headache. I was back to baseline some 10-14 days later. At which time a 10 day relapse with morphine, heroin and methadone followed by slight withdrawl (pain in legs, sensitivity to cold, general weakness). Hell that was a fucked up month, i am surprised i managed that good at work, and wasnt kicked. ;) Now two weeks later thankfully i am fine again. 200mg Lyrica a day as prescribed, training again, Gf happy, work ok.
 
I recently accidently smoked like 200 mg of this god damn crap. It was confused for a cannabinoid (mind you i was already high on pregabalin, phenibut and ethanol). I had the longest come down in my history of drug abuse. After the first night i could sleep with the help of downers. But i could hardly do my work, because the rest at night was so bad. I usually woke up before the alarm rang and i was exremly alert and stimulated couldnt take ANY caffeine at all. When i came back from work i was extremely exhausted and trembling. I also had some terrible long lasting headache. I was back to baseline some 10-14 days later. At which time a 10 day relapse with morphine, heroin and methadone followed by slight withdrawl (pain in legs, sensitivity to cold, general weakness). Hell that was a fucked up month, i am surprised i managed that good at work, and wasnt kicked. ;) Now two weeks later thankfully i am fine again. 200mg Lyrica a day as prescribed, training again, Gf happy, work ok.
Oh man, glad you are kicking it again. I've fortunately never dosed any stimulant that high, but I have an idea of the kind of weird effects you get. I smoked over 1g of MDPV when I first tried it and went straight into psychosis which took a week to subside. A whopping dose of MDPPP IV caused an instant Herpes Zoster outbreak on my lips, had my nose bleed for days, I coughed up blood and it took me one week to even leave the house again (after which I recovered for another two). The muscle tics persisted for days as well. The euphoria was unmatched by any other drug experience though. I still wouldn't repeat it if my life depended on it.

If you haven't yet, be sure to label all your drugs properly, it's not that much work.
 
It wasn't confused by me, rather by the person who ordered the canabinoids. Gladly i didn't develop psychotic symtoms because i read this could happen (after i found out what this stuff actually was). I forced myself to sleep or lay in bed to get some rest. The person who ordered this stuff and another one both were hospitalised with psychosis. They were both found on consecutive days semi unresponsive with signs of medication overdosage and psychosis. They both probably even exceeded my dosage and using on several days, where i consumed the whole in one night. MDPV was also very bad, real quick paranoia, bad strain on cardiovascular system. I have wrote a trip report called "toxic waste product" if you are interested. Desoxypipradol is mild and forgiving wouldnt it have such a high potency, long half life and underwhelming effect.
 
I smoked over 1g of MDPV when I first tried it and went straight into psychosis which took a week to subside

I recently accidently smoked like 200 mg of this god damn crap. It was confused for a cannabinoid (mind you i was already high on pregabalin, phenibut and ethanol).

Just...wow. Thank god these weird research chemicals have wider therapeutic indices than more common stimulants.

ebola
 
I forgot about this thread. I think I posted mini trip reports in it when I was on my desoxypipradrol run. I really enjoyed it but I stayed up for a week. Surprisingly so psychosis but I paid dearly for it.
 
The 2008 Obama election was going on during that week of desoxy also. I made some crazy rambling entire page or more posts in PD Social. =D

Desoxy is a weird one but I sometimes had really awesome, euphoric experiences, and that whole week was one until I crashed out at the end. Hard.
 
Hey guys,

People seem to be mentioning some other threads about the drug, but this seems to be the most successful, so I'll leave this here (forgive me I'm new).

There seems to be a consensus that this drug lasts way too long for recreational use. However there are a number of anecdotal reports of it being really useful at low doses. As a long acting functional stimulant, this seems really appealing to me.

I currently (though on break for summer) take vyvanse 50mg for ADHD during the school year. It's been great, though the commute home can be difficult at times, and doing work at night, because a morning dose tends to be wearing off by then. Also, it's absurdly expensive, and with my high deductible insurance plan I'm paying full price for it.

I have, on more than one occasion, considered 2dpmp as an alternative. It's incredibly long duration actually seems perfect for all day ADHD treatment. And since it's been through some clinical trials, there's at least a degree of safety indicated (as opposed to, say, 2-fma, which has apparently caused cardiac problems with long term use due to build up of cardiotoxic metabolites. ).

The only problem is the possibility of the drug building up in my system. Meaning that low dosage usage would eventually build up a significant plasma concentration over time. This would depend on the actual pharmacological halflife of the dig, I suppose. And I haven't seen any studies revealing it's halflife. Does anyone have any advice for me in this regard. Would consecutive low dosage usage pose a significant danger in the same way that high dosage usage does? Or could it actually be useful as a fictional stimulant, as long as dosages are kept very controlled?
 
Hey guys,

People seem to be mentioning some other threads about the drug, but this seems to be the most successful, so I'll leave this here (forgive me I'm new).

There seems to be a consensus that this drug lasts way too long for recreational use. However there are a number of anecdotal reports of it being really useful at low doses. As a long acting functional stimulant, this seems really appealing to me.

I currently (though on break for summer) take vyvanse 50mg for ADHD during the school year. It's been great, though the commute home can be difficult at times, and doing work at night, because a morning dose tends to be wearing off by then. Also, it's absurdly expensive, and with my high deductible insurance plan I'm paying full price for it.

I have, on more than one occasion, considered 2dpmp as an alternative. It's incredibly long duration actually seems perfect for all day ADHD treatment. And since it's been through some clinical trials, there's at least a degree of safety indicated (as opposed to, say, 2-fma, which has apparently caused cardiac problems with long term use due to build up of cardiotoxic metabolites. ).

The only problem is the possibility of the drug building up in my system. Meaning that low dosage usage would eventually build up a significant plasma concentration over time. This would depend on the actual pharmacological halflife of the dig, I suppose. And I haven't seen any studies revealing it's halflife. Does anyone have any advice for me in this regard. Would consecutive low dosage usage pose a significant danger in the same way that high dosage usage does? Or could it actually be useful as a fictional stimulant, as long as dosages are kept very controlled?
There are many drugs with longer half lives which can be taken daily and will eventually show at a relatively stable plasma level. I'd be worried about running into sleep issues. Have you checked the results of the clinical trials out, are they available? You need a high level of self control for this to work out which I'm sure you are aware of. I personally failed miserably trying to self medicate with stimulants. It worked well for a year or so, but went downhill fast after that. Then again, I have bipolar 1 disorder, you have ADHD. You could give it a shot, but personally I'd try to score some amphetamine instead, clean that up and prepare capsules for daily dosing. Is there no option to be prescribed a psychostimulant that's cheaper than lisdexamfetamine instead, like plain old d-amphetamine? You could take that twice daily. Whichever way you look at it though, the problem of being able to perform very demanding cognitive tasks in the evening vs. being able to go to sleep on time will remain.

I'd recommend talking this through with your psychiatrist before scoring an rc like this, eventhough I can see how it's appealing and could even see it working out.
 
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There are many drugs with longer half lives which can be taken daily and will eventually show at a relatively stable plasma level. I'd be worried about running into sleep issues. Have you checked the results of the clinical trials out, are they available? You need a high level of self control for this to work out which I'm sure you are aware of. I personally failed miserably trying to self medicate with stimulants. It worked well for a year or so, but went downhill fast after that. Then again, I have bipolar 1 disorder, you have ADHD. You could give it a shot, but personally I'd try to score some amphetamine instead, clean that up and prepare capsules for daily dosing. Is there no option to be prescribed a psychostimulant that's cheaper than lisdexamfetamine instead, like plain old d-amphetamine? You could take that twice daily. Whichever way you look at it though, the problem of being able to perform very demanding cognitive tasks in the evening vs. being able to go to sleep on time will remain.

I'd recommend talking this through with your psychiatrist before scoring an rc like this, eventhough I can see how it's appealing and could even see it working out.

Thanks for the help.

Yeah, it's definitely the half life I'm worried about. 2-dpmp was dropped back in the 60s when the company researching it decided to bring methylphenidate to the market instead--because the shorter duration made it more convenient, I believe. I've been on the methylphenidate train before, with focalin. It's not a bad drug, but XR formulations don't sit well with me: I would soar up, then crash, then soar up, then crash. This is actually why I'm so fond of the vyvanse--because it's a prodrug its time release feels much more smooth.

That's the main reason why I would feel more comfortable with vyvanse over an XR dexedrine or something similar. Well, that and I feel like it might look bad to go asking after pure d-amp. (Whereas vyvanse at least has a reputation, even if it's not true, of being "unabusable.")

I've never personally had a problem with using stimulants in terms of binging or addiction issues. Even with extra laying around I've never felt the urge to take a larger dose than I need to get by. And I don't know if it's that I have adhd, exactly. I know plenty of people with adhd who are very prone to drug abuse. I guess, when it comes to drugs, I just don't tend to have an addictive personality.

If 2-dpmp was more widely available, I would probably pick some up just to try. But honestly it's probably a fair bet to assume that it's not really worth the risks--a small accident in measuring can mean a mistake that deprives you of a night or two of sleep. It's too bad about the reports I've heard that 2-fma is bad long-term, because that honestly sounds about perfect to me--longer than vyvanse, no significant euphoria, no body load. Just pure focus. Really, I'd like to see some more research being done by big pharma on new adhd formulations. I guess they're content with the amp and mph formulations they have, but it really seems like there's a lot of untapped potential out there in the RC market--some people say that MPA is better for their adhd than any medication they've tried, for example. I just wish there was more data on long term toxicity.
 
I would not say there is untapped potential, those analogues have no real advantages over the classics. If you are prescribed Vyvanse you would only be disappointed by the RCs you listed. MPA has a shitload of side effects, 2-FMA is underwhelming. I would suggest, that you cut down your Vyvanse use, if you are not satisfied with the results anymore. Switching to another stimulant will provide better effects in the short-term, because they differ in monoamine reuptake/release profile. But in the long-term you will develop a tolerance with those, too, subsequently.

2-DPMP is not suitable for daily use IMHO. I take it ~once a year and I am regretting it every time :D It works, but the residual stimulation goes on for several days, and that sucks a lot because of the possible interactions. Drink a cup of coffee 2 days after dosing and you know what I mean.

I would stick to Vyvanse if I were in your spot.
 
I would not say there is untapped potential, those analogues have no real advantages over the classics. If you are prescribed Vyvanse you would only be disappointed by the RCs you listed. MPA has a shitload of side effects, 2-FMA is underwhelming. I would suggest, that you cut down your Vyvanse use, if you are not satisfied with the results anymore. Switching to another stimulant will provide better effects in the short-term, because they differ in monoamine reuptake/release profile. But in the long-term you will develop a tolerance with those, too, subsequently.

2-DPMP is not suitable for daily use IMHO. I take it ~once a year and I am regretting it every time :D It works, but the residual stimulation goes on for several days, and that sucks a lot because of the possible interactions. Drink a cup of coffee 2 days after dosing and you know what I mean.

I would stick to Vyvanse if I were in your spot.

It's interesting that you say that. You may very well be right. I suppose I can't really form my own opinion on the matter without experimenting myself, but since I have a legitimate prescription, that may be a lot of effort and risk for no real benefit.

In any case, it's not Vyvanse's effect that is lacking, but its price. I actually have been on a tolerance break since the beginning of summer--but even before I went on break it was still very effectively medicating my symptoms--I think amphetamine's effects on focus persist long after tolerance takes the euphoria away. It's a trap that a lot of people fall into, trying to preserve the euphoria under the mistaken assumption that the euphoria is the indicator of the medication's effectiveness.

I will probably stick to the Vyvanse :p though it would be good to know there are other options out there, if 2-dpmp really lasts multiple days for you, even with sane dosages, then I agree that it would be unworkable as a daily stim.
 
This is so far the only clean stim I found much too clean for my taste, and I have pretty much used/sampled them all over the last 20 years or so, from ephedrone to flephedrone. Yeah, although the matter is debatable I consider several substituted amphetamines/cathinones as "clean" but now compared with desoxypipradol every stim I used seems a little dirty but much more enjoyable than this bastard offspring of a cross between Modafinil and God knows what extra-inert amph derivative crafted to get around analog laws by having no perceptible positive effects on the mind. Not pharmacologically correct but that's how I describe an everlasting stimulation totally exempt from any hint of a shadow of euphoria or mood lift and to top it off it's seemingly impervious to benzos and similar downers. I really wished I had a pair of 100mg Nembutals to finish off this misery of an experience but I'm not even convinced it would have sufficed. Sheesh!
 
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