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(Desoxypipradrol/10 mgs) First experience: Which way is Poland?!

The boiling point of the freebase is much lower than that of the salt, so it vaporizes at a lower temperature. Because of this, it is easier to smoke, and the temperature required is low enough to avoid burning/decomposition of the compound. It hits very fast (seconds) as compared to the long onset of oral administration.
 
syntelman said:
I think we need a clarification on this matter. :D
Smoking salts generally is a bad idea and as the freebase seems to be crystalline at room temperature members previously reporting smoking the hydrochloride salt may possibly have been smoking the freebase without knowing it (we all know how reliable RC-sellers are).

Or Slog's smoking technique sucks. :D (No offence!)
Have you tried repeating the experiment? Or converting the salt to freebase.
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Well, my only smoking experiences of chemicals is limited to MA and 5-meo-dmt, which I used the same method that I would use for MA, and the stuff simply wouldn't melt, but only give off a wispy vapor after much heat was applied. I suppose that was to be expected though, considering the MSDS stated the melting point at >250C.

I probably will end up experimenting with the base at a future time.
 
Slog: If you do end up with the freebase, you will see it has very different properties than the salt.
 
I'd love to experiment with this again sometime, and combine it with a psychedelic or two. However I am no longer purchasing chemicals due to sheer tightness of budget =D 8(
 
My last batch was 'destroyed' after storage in tap water at room temp or more accurately summer heat (not smart I know, but I had no choice at the moment). Gave me a very bad stomach last time I tried (which didn't occur before, at higher doses), so just ordered another 100mg. But I find it hard to find time to experiment. Not exactly the kind of drug you spontaneously take just like that. :D
 
Refluxer said:
Slog: If you do end up with the freebase, you will see it has very different properties than the salt.
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How different would those properties be? i'm curious because I have been offered desoxy hcl, just havent decided if I want to blow the money on it yet.
 
The only "real" difference should be the abilitiy to smoke it (it's still the very same drug). And any salt form could easily be transformed into the freebase so it shouldn't really matter
 
All this talk of smoking is depressing me... just my opinion, but this shit is going to vanish quickly with a vicious tag of notoriety if smoking/slamming it becomes popular :|. This stuff isn't crack... you guys aware of the half-life? If (potentially long term) psychosis sounds like fun, go right ahead. Tripling up on phenazepam won't do the trick either 8).
 
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hey there,

anyone knows how this stuff mixes up with opiates?



my previous experiment taking it after about t+6 of an 2c-c trip made no problems, but prevented most positive effects quite distinctly.
 
It mixes with opiates too well (if you know what I mean). This from using opiate painkillers (dihydrocodeine/methadone) to deal with gall bladder spasm after massively over doing ketamine with desoxy to prevent me drifting off after the main part of the ketamine experience was over. It increased the euphoria considerably, which wasn't good from my perspective (I try to avoid opiates except for genuine analgesic use)
 
Anybody know what the legal status of desoxy is within UK? A friend is placing a reasonably sized order and would like some opinions regarding the risk of the package getting seized.
 
arcticjoe said:
Anybody know what the legal status of desoxy is within UK? A friend is placing a reasonably sized order and would like some opinions regarding the risk of the package getting seized.
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Legal in the UK.
 
It's legal in the USA too... apparently doesn't fall under the Federal Analog Act, as pipradrol is Schedule IV and a substance has to be an analog of a Schedule I or II to be covered under the act.

Too bad... MDPV is so much safer in my mind (at least in the hands of someone who tends to overdo) that it's just a bummer it both falls under the act and is virtual unobtainium, and this stuff doesn't and isn't.
 
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Tried many trials with this substance
IV and oral.
Also tried it with 2cb and meth combinations.
It seems too have less euphoria than methamphetamine but has less of a crash.

Anyone notice auditory disturbances with Desoxypiprodrol? There seems to be more auditory changes than any stimulant tested.
 
MDPVagrant said:
It's legal in the USA too... apparently doesn't fall under the Federal Analog Act, as pipradrol is Schedule IV and a substance has to be an analog of a Schedule I or II to be covered under the act.
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All you need is an overenthusiastic DEA chemist to say that it's actually an analogue of methylphenidate (the methoxycarbonyl group being replaced by a phenyl group) and you're into the realms of a 'do not pass go, do not collect $200' situation (ie go to jail for those not fans of the board game Monopoly) as I believe methylphenidate is sch II in the US
 
illusion25 said:
Tried many trials with this substance
IV and oral.
Also tried it with 2cb and meth combinations.
It seems too have less euphoria than methamphetamine but has less of a crash.
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Good to know. I'm hoping that there is energy, motivation and focus, but not euphoria or addictiveness. Is that too much to ask? :D I wont have any other stimulant experience to compare this with, so I won't feel I'm missing out on anything compared to meth etc.

I'd like to just be able to get shit done, rather that some half assed lethargy where you want to do things, but don't seem to have the focus to stick with them. I'd really love to take 2-4mg of this and 20 hours later have tons of stuff done. Without structure sometimes the days can go by and not as much gets done as I'd like. I wouldn't want to use this more than once per week, but it would be nice to cram some more productive time into the week.
 
Good luck, buddy! Desoxy took me a little while to get the feel for, and when I did, I got a little hedonistic with it. In retrospect that was a fun and euphoric two weeks... really euphoric. I had to pay the price, but I'd say I got off really easy considering what I've been through with other stimulants.
 
I got some Desoxy today, and couldn't wait to dive in. I dissolved 40mg in 10ml of alcohol and took 3mg about 14 hours ago.

Around 40 minutes in I had a bit of a headache but it was tolerable. There wasn't any euphoria or urge to invade other sovereign nations, but I did notice a definite energy lift and increase in focus as well as a bit of a mood lift.

I went on a 9 hour cleaning/packing binge which was quite productive. I'm preparing to move soon, and I just organized the last 5 years of my life and went through stacks of unopened mail etc. I even found an uncahsed paycheck for $500 from Feb 2006! Which shows how often I clean this thoroughly. ;) Around 4 hours in I noticed a slight energy dip but it was likely because I hadn't really taken a break. After a small break I was back to full stream.

Ten hours after taking the desoxy (around 2am), I took a break and started to get fairly tired. At 2:30am I thought I could fall asleep because I was tired, but it obviously wasn't going to happen. I layed in bed for about an hour and a half and I was pretty fatigued and felt a bit sketchy with a headache. After I decided to get up the sketchy feeling went away and after eating I felt pretty normal.

At this point my initial impressions are positive. The first 10 hours or so were pretty much exactly what I was hoping for, energy, motivation and focus but without much to make me want to use it recreationally. In the future I'll probably take right after I wake up rather than later in the afternoon, I was just anxious to try it. In a few days I might try 5mg and see if I can find my sweet spot.
 
Xorkoth said:
Good luck, buddy! Desoxy took me a little while to get the feel for, and when I did, I got a little hedonistic with it. In retrospect that was a fun and euphoric two weeks... really euphoric. I had to pay the price, but I'd say I got off really easy considering what I've been through with other stimulants.
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^^^ Hmmm... dunno, I never managed to get the 'feel' for it. My body doesn't really seem to tell me how much is 'enough' with the stuff, with very ugly results when "seat of pants" dosing is taking place.

P.S. to F&B... You may be right about legality, but no prob on my end... I'm happy never to see desoxypipradrol again. Peace.
 
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