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(Desoxypipradrol/10 mgs) First experience: Which way is Poland?!

Smoked desoxypipradrol is a different beast than oral. The freebase will almost instantaneously vaporize when heated with an ordinary lighter on foil. Don't have any experience at all when it comes to smoking chemicals, so the method used wasn't very efficient, but bouts of some pretty serious euphoria ensumed.
 
Definitely interested in hearing details (sketchy would be fine) about how desoxypipradrol could mutate itself into freebase form. If you accidentally dropped it in boiling water with baking soda in it, would something interesting happen?
 
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I have a pic of the crystals. Will post here when it's approved. To make it freebase, just put some base in the water solution and extract with non polar solvent and evaporate. Dropping it in basic, boiling water does not seem like a good idea. I didn't recrystallize or anything, just a quick and dirty extraction. I'm contemplating growing a big nice crystal. :D I was surprised when it was heated on foil, in about a second it just said *woosh* and a white cloud with tarry taste was formed. The first attempt were about 10 mg, with a fair amount lost (that's why 10 mg in total, because a significant amount was lost in the first heating). If you have an efficient way to vaporize and breathe it (recommended), you'd have to start way lower. After the first attempt, at one point I thought my todo-list that day would be impossible to manage because it hit me so hard at a point, but it passed quickly. I'll be trying this again, but with a better smoking device. The 30-40 min of strong euphoria seems likely to occur if smoked the right way, but I didn't experience it this time.

Putting a very small amount on the tip of a cigarette didn't really seem to be a good way to smoke it.

This is, at this point in time, truly the crack of the scientist (as someone, nanobrain I believe, stated MDPV to be at one point).
 
Jamshyd said:
MDPVagrant: To clarify, what I mean is that in the few months this drug has been out, I have seen more passionate (and not to mention, extremely wordy) praises for it than I have seen for meth in all of its years. It seems like this one is only trumped by coke, and people on coke act like maniacs all the time anyway ;)
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I can think of one exception... my roommate has tried it, likes it somewhat but experiences a nasty aftermath a couple-three days later. He's really not interested in using it again.

As far as myself... bring it on. IMO it is a "new and improved" methamphetamine, seems much less stressful to the body (perhaps just as neurotoxic at high doses as Meth, but that's just conjecture). Could be the first stimulant RC competitive with stuff available on the streets. I've gained much respect lately... it's very potent, intense and aggressive. Play games with it and you'll end up in Hospital Emergency, likely under observation for some mental or behavioral issue. IMO, more than one or two doses/day = "Better have powerful sleep aids within reach, period."
I do not think stmulants = mania is necessarily a rule. Being alert and happy is hardly manic (I have only seen mania develop on Amphetamine after chronic use of huge doses). But I will not attempt to define mania, I'm sure most people have an idea as to what it is.
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Yes, that's what I was addressing -- chronic use of huge doses. IMO that's even more likely to happen with desoxypipradrol, due to its long duration of effects. Couple that with extreme sleep deprivation and you've got... well, it's probably different with everyone, but definitely some sort of unpleasant nastiness.

For me, I'm quite safe with Seroquel around. Too much 2-DPMP = nasty anxiety/jitters? 25mg Seroquel = 100% cancellation, with appetite boost as a bonus. Time to sleep? 75-100mg Seroquel = sleep like a baby and wake up feeling pretty good, even within an hour of 2-DPMP dosing. I'm a bit puzzled why the Desoxy doesn't reassert when the Seroquel wears off, but no problems here with that.

Note that I may be an unusual case when it comes to the above paragraph, being well into what you might call stimulant burnout. It's almost a case of needing 2-DPMP (or something like it) to avoid flopping on couch with glazed/unseeing eyes, TV on and unwatched, lost in repetitive, random mental scenarios. Things are rarely as bad as that, but the signs are there. Anyone know if Parkinson's has responded to the latest medical advances these days?
 
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I havn't had a chance to read this whole thread (will do after I get some sleep) but would I be right in guessing that this is not a controlled substance in the UK? As I am very intrested in it especialy with it being compared only to meth as someone stated earlier!
 
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Here ya go.

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Has anyone done any more controlled studies on the amplification of psychedelics? Would be very interesting to see more "facts" on the table on this matter. :)
 
Facts are good! :D
Did Refluxer or anybody else repeat smoking of the freebase? More information is most def wanted, i.e what does it do to the duration? Very curious on this matter and will convert a small amount and try for myself when given time (even if I hate smoking things). :)
 
It's such a small amount, and the "smoke" is not very hot. I repeated it, and it hits fast, but I'm still out of the experience of 30-40 minutes of strong rush. Smoking the hydrochloride sounds kind of wack to me, but another report indicated it was done with good results. Anyone have comments on smoking the hydrochloride?
 
Do you have any idea on the amount you smoked?
And how did it effect the duration? Someone stated earlier in this thread that it still was a (really) long one. :O
 
Well, the attempts were partwise failures, but between 5-10 mg in most of them I believe. I'll probably try it again in a near future.
 
syntelman said:
Has anyone done any more controlled studies on the amplification of psychedelics? Would be very interesting to see more "facts" on the table on this matter. :)
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when I get to using the desoxy again I will hopefully be smart enough not to feel so invincible that I'll suddenly feel like adding a phenethalamine or a tryptamine just to 'notch up the insight' or 'brighten the colours' or whatever other stupid ideas I tend to get on stimulants. my one-off mishap mixing psy's and desoxy was on a mild dose of 2C-B and i did not have a good time. I felt overstimulated and really quite serious all night. And then somewhat disillusioned about life for several days afterward. No fun at all.
 
Smoking the hydrochloride resulted in failure. The smoke was very hot and harsh, and hardly any smoke could be produced at a single time.

5mg was attempted, perhaps 1mg ended up being vaporized before the trial was aborted. No noticeable effects were noted.
 
I think we need a clarification on this matter. :D
Smoking salts generally is a bad idea and as the freebase seems to be crystalline at room temperature members previously reporting smoking the hydrochloride salt may possibly have been smoking the freebase without knowing it (we all know how reliable RC-sellers are).

Or Slog's smoking technique sucks. :D (No offence!)
Have you tried repeating the experiment? Or converting the salt to freebase.
 
Freebase is the way to go. BTW, the freebase Mr.Refluxer had was indeed nice crystals while in the evap. dish, but a bit sticky (some solvent still left I assume) when scooped up which then dried up pretty well.
 
^^ How did the effects differ? Or really, a better question is, how would you compare and contrast the salt vs. freebase forms, all things considered? What makes the freebase better?
 
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