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Stimulants Desire to try Meth, and not very comfortable about it.

Bigfanofthemdrugs said:
Meth is especially evil, because while it starts out as a seemingly relatively innocent party drug, it quickly becomes a life ruining drug that consumes its user's entire being, to a point where it stops even being fun anymore.
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MDPV doesnt do that to me, as since I dont abuse it and I rarely even get high from it. Speed was always too boring for me
to even get addicted to. I liked MDMA far better. But there are plenty of RC's which are FAR more fun than meth while still being speedy, such as 3-MMC. And they probably arent as addicting, as you wouldnt do it every single day. If you're looking for an everyday thing, I would probably say Coffee would be your best or safest bet for a stimulant.
 
well..., I wouldn't say it's THAT impure. Especially since cartels are running the meth business now. With El Chapo's net worth being over a billion dollars and being on forbes. He's created some pure shit.
 
dankhead88 said:
well..., I wouldn't say it's THAT impure. Especially since cartels are running the meth business now. With El Chapo's net worth being over a billion dollars and being on forbes. He's created some pure shit.
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Oh my bad, I just heard street meth was cut, but you probably know more than I do. I could be spreading the governments disinformation so I apologize. lol I guess it depends on who you get it from. I've tried it a few times in my life, all of it was the same, just kept me up all night. No real fun. I could definitely see how it could be addicting though. But there are RC's out there which blow away Meth in terms of fun, and they give you even more energy than meth does. So, what's the point of meth? For ignorant people who don't know about these other chemicals!! LoL
 
I suppose the availability of methamphetamine and running the risk of being convicted under the Federal Analogue Act. Some particular amphetamines I've wanted to try was 4-flouroamphetamine and mephedrone. Guess meth is just different for you. I particularly like it for my studying and the cascading effect of dopamine in my synapses.

Also, I never intended that I got pure shit. For all I know, it could be cut, but the stuff coming from the border is pretty pure shit. I haven't seen powdered meth in my life
 
dankhead88 said:
I suppose the availability of methamphetamine and running the risk of being convicted under the Federal Analogue Act. Some particular amphetamines I've wanted to try was 4-flouroamphetamine and mephedrone. Guess meth is just different for you. I particularly like it for my studying and the cascading effect of dopamine in my synapses.

Also, I never intended that I got pure shit. For all I know, it could be cut, but the stuff coming from the border is pretty pure shit. I haven't seen powdered meth in my life
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If you like to study, 4-fa or 2-fma might be very nice for you. 4-fa is more of a fun drug but still incredibly mellow compared to MDMA. And I used it daily for a while with no bad side effects. I actually felt happier when I discontinued use, and it had a long term effect on me, better than MDMA does in that regard...but not in the same life changing points of view, just in a general balanced way.
 
Honestly I didn't read the other posts in this thread as I'm in a rush right now, but here's what I have to say to the OP:

It sounds as if right now you have your life together, why even risk messing it up. IMO methamphetamine is very addictive (and more similar to heroin in terms of the powerful euphoric recall which will fucking haunt you if the stuff is easily available). I've only had limited experiences with crystal methamphetamine, as I live in NYC where it is incredibly rare, expensive, and only popular (in general) within the gay drug using community. I only was able to even find it in CA (and let me tell you, the amount I bought there would have cost about 5x more in NYC), but found it to be one of the most incredibly euphoric and addictive drugs I have ever experienced (and I've used a lot of drugs, stimulants, opiates, benzodiazepines etc..). The thing is, I had already been an IV drug user for about five years and had a history of IV cocaine/stimulant use in the past when I first shot meth (I also smoked it), so I was almost instantly addicted psychologically. Luckily, my stay in California was brief and so I was back in NY before I could really lose my mind to good ol' Tina.

I don't really know how to describe it except to compare it oddly enough to both cocaine and heroin (the other two, feared hard drugs in the U.S.). If you're not an IV coke user or a crack cocaine smoker, than I would say cocaine's addictive potential through insufflation is nothing compared to methamphetamine. Meth has a long, euphoric high, and a very quick onset through nearly every ROA (route of administration). I would compare the euphoria more to the likes of heroin in that way-don't get me wrong, the two drugs are obviously very different (ones a depressant, ones a stimulant), but the way they hook you is kind of similar. Basically, both of them give you a very euphoric long lasting high at first that is not intoxicating to the point that you can't function (or at least, so it seems, with meth you can easily send yourself into a state of sever anxiety and paranoia if you take too much.).

At first you probably can get away with using meth here and there, or even going to work/school while under the influence..In fact, I guarantee that one of the first ways your mind will rationalize your use is by telling you that "Hey, this is great! I can focus better, get all my work done and have fun doing it!" However, any speed user will tell you that this is going to be a pretty brief phase. If you get to the point where you start binging (I.e. using multiple days in a row, redosing throughout the day, not going to sleep) you will suffer some really scary psychosis where you'll begin to hallucinate (both audio and visual hallucinations btw, that seem very real, and are not fun!). You will also stop eating, probably begin to pick at your face, and clench your jaw to the point that your teeth start to feel lose in your gums.

You will also begin (almost immediately) to face the whole issue of tolerance, which will mean that you'll need to spend more money and use more meth to get the same high. At some point, you'll probably try to save money by switching to a more intense ROA. If you took meth orally you will probably switch to sniffing, than to smoking, and then to shooting (BTW, for anyone already addicted, you don't HAVE to shoot meth, rectal administration will give you a 99% absorption). Once you start smoking the drug, or god for bid using it intravenously, it's going to become a hell of a lot more addictive, as these ROA's provide very strong rushes. In fact, the first time I shot meth I felt like I was almost tripping.

Eventually, if you become do become addicted (good chance), you will end up spending all your money on Meth. Then you will run out of money, and begin selling your shit, thinking "Who needs this materialistic garbage anyway". After a while, you won't have anything left to sell, you won't be getting high (just avoiding the miserable crash and sending yourself spiraling into a state of stimulant induced psychosis), and you'll either have to quit, or turn to crime to support your habit. It is also likely that somewhere along the line you will begin to dabble with depressants, maybe even heroin to help deal with the anxiety/come down, and then you'll have two addictions. Believe me, when it comes to hard drugs, it is very easy to rationalize overstepping your own personal boundaries if it will get you high. I never thought I'd steal, I never thought I'd get arrested, I never thought I would overdose, I never thought I would shoot heroin, and I certainly never thought I would shoot speedballs.
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Anyway, that might sound a bit dramatic, but I swear to god, if anything anyone says on this board can help you change your mind about this, than its worth it. When it comes to these chemicals, willpower will only get you so far.
 
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pharma-sutra said:
I have seen a beloved family member, whom I've seen first hand become addicted to this forbidden drug. He would constantly deny the fact that he has been binging or have any physiological addiction, even though it is god damn clear he's been tweaking for days on end. He went from being a cheerful, outgoing person to someone who is very short-tempered, lost a bunch of weight, and looks like literal shit (not to mention his poly-drug abuse/addiction with other drugs and the fact that he is on testosterone). He has had many meth induced psychotic episodes, in which he would think the police have bugged his car, his house, and tapping his phone. He barely gets any sleep, face ridden with acne and grease. Whenever I call him and talk to him in person, it is so hard to understand him, and he mumbles incoherent bullshit. And no matter how much I tried to persuade him to quit, no matter how many people who cared about him tried to convince him to steer away from that shit, I've always caught him right handed, in the bathroom taking rips on his meth pipe.

He was the one who introduced me to the recreational potential of drugs, and we have shared some good times. But once he got into crystal, it become a whole different story. One time, after a big rave, we got home and had an afterparty going and didn't want the night to end. He tried to drug everyone (successfully too) by methbombing everyone's drink. He offered people a huge jug of orange juice (but put in crushed up crystal in there). I was high for three days without any sleep, although I felt very good, and the high was very calm rather than what people perceive as being "tweaked out", but as I was approaching the 4th day without any sleep and coming down from a myriad of drugs, I just wanted to pass out but I couldn't. This was the first time and the last time I've ever tried crystal, and it was also the first time I've experienced stimulant psychosis. I couldn't sleep so I tried smoking a ton of pot, downed a handful of benzos, ketamine, and zolpidem/zolplicone, which didn't do shit all (who knew how much he actually put in that jug of OJ, most of our friends couldn't sleep either; and at the time I did not know or have any seroquel to help me comedown). I began having vivid, and surreal hallucinations, both auditory and visual. I was seeing people I knew who wasn't there, hearing people fucking that wasn't there. I also was doing the whole window warrior thing, watching out the windows and lurking about, because of paranoia.
In short, I never forgave him for drugging me with meth (because we all refused to partake in smoking meth or any meth consumption at that, turned him down every time he offered and he would go into a huge debate as that everyone has their drug of choice and I'm just being biased because of all the media portrayal), and it could be a fatal dose too. And I've already given up on trying to get him to quit. The whole family tried to get him to rehab, but he wouldn't go. He's been caught with possession, and the authorities has put him in rehab once, but he relapsed as soon as he was out. He's always had a stash hidden somewhere.
This is just another addiction story just to give you a grasp of the situation...GL
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im so sorry man, that SUCKS, I'd be pissed if someone spiked my OJ with smething like that. Dosing people in general is NOT OK, but with meth? Damn, that's fucking low.
 
I tried meth for a brief stretch. I consider myself fortunate that I don't like the stuff and I never got hooked, cause that drug will damage you like nothing else. I've seen it firsthand... it's just like the pics you see around, it destroys you.
I hope for your sake that if you try it you don't like it.
 
Renz Envy said:
Meth is really the only drug that straight up lead into a road of messed up situations in which seemed perfectly normal and fun. It really does warp the human mind to resemble that of what a demon is personified as.

The Dangerous Bunch:
They smile at you and nod. They listen to your talk. "This person is cool right? They're extremely nice and into the same shit I am!"

They love to sit and listen, because the entire time they're analyzing you. They see your value and measure whether you're worth the time to rob. They will strip you of everything you own in a heart beat if they could get away with it.

I promise if you do meth you will meet them. If you start playing their game you lost.
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this is so true, great post.

The King of Beans said:
Forget the meth...go with MDPV instead
Meth is cut with all kinds of shit. MDPV online is pure
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LOL did anyone else miss this post? MDPV over meth in the name of harm reduction! lmao. yeah right, that shit is meth on crack!
 
-Only orally.

I'm just going to add one final thing that has been bothering me since my last post.
Methamphetamine is actually a great "medicine" when taken as prescribed.
It's even pretty safe when taken as prescribed.
It is the state of mind and actions of abusers that is the problem and, I just have to say it, "It isn't the drug all by itself".
Drug for Drug, dose for dose - on a chemical basis, meth is pretty low on the danger scale.
I hope you understand where I am coming from (if you read my previous post it should make sense).

-Only orally.
 
I tried meth for the first time about 3 or 4 weeks ago. I was I.v.ing it and by the end of the week I was so sleep deprived and hallucinating so vividly I ended up believing my house was under siege and I was about to be murdered. this might have something to do with me using 25i-nbome a day before the meth, but either way the night ended with cops, who I called, me locked in a bathroom with an extendable baton thinking 2 people broke into my house and were coming to suffocate me with a plastic bag. once the cops got there I came out of the bathroom weapon raised and was almost shot. I quickly told them I'm the one who called them and I ended up in the psych ward for 24 hours, they were going to send me to a long care facility/ in patient mental health institution to chemically stabilize me even though I had stopped hallucinating before I even got to the hospital. I was on probation so I didn't tell them I took drugs, even though normally I strongly believe in being honest with doctors.

what saved me from being sent off to a facility to be loaded up with medication and locked in a padded room was my mother, she started demanding a doctor see me and talking about my rights so a very kind hearted African American doctor came and talked to me about what happened, made sure it was clear I wasn't still seeing things (i got a good nights sleep in the hospital over night and my mind was crystal clear) and so she said it sounds like you would do best at home with your family, and authorized my release.

the woman who was determined to send me to a long term facility worked for a private firm that earns commision for every patient they get placed in a facility, and makes more money the higher the degree of treatment and the longer the stay. she saw me as a paycheck and that was the most f ucked up part about the whole thing.

anyways, I haven't hallucenated since and I've recovered a great deal from this, I'd lost 10 pounds during that week and even 3 days after my last shot I couldn't sleep and was seeing evil things that weren't there, that's when all this happened three days after my last shot. my point is that this is serious shit, the high is pleasant but the side effects are not worth it. I won't be ordering this shit ever again, and I'm staying far away from stimulants fir a long time. I wasn't a regular user, this was my first time trying this drug and I have an extensive amount of experience with all different types of drugs. nothing can prepare you for the horrors of watching your house get surrounded by crystal clear images of people, then hearing the front door get kicked down and the door to your apartment getting picked open. when I was in the bathroom I heard people whispering to eachother saying "do it" that was the most scared I've ever been in my life, the thought that you are going to have to fight fir your life it be killed is a feeling that will change you forever.

best if luck
 
Folley said:
DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!



Forreal. Don't.


I was in your position once.. and I decided to try it one time... It's literally the most addictive drug I've ever tried. Luckily, I realized that (after a 3 day binge) and haven't used it since... but I still have cravings for it quite often.

Meth is an awful drug. Sooo many side effects and the comedown is just never worth it.



I'd agree with Dancer and say that if you do it, definitely only use it oral... NEVER smoke that shit. It becomes a whole other beast when you shoot/smoke it... I've watched hardcore amphetamine addicts fall off the deep end after trying meth for the first time.
It's just too hard of a drug to control your usage of.... just don't do it.....





Oh, well, at least you live in Pennsylvania. Good luck trying to find it there anyways lol, it's scarce as fuck over there
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Crystal is in Pennsylvania it's everywhere dude, and if someone really wants to find a drug they will find it.

It's in PA's major cities, suburbs, and small towns. Granted it's not as big as it was in the mid-late 70s and very early 80s but it's coming back. In my friend's neighborhood they found a lab in someone's house that was a few streets over from where my friend lives thankfully it didn't blow up.

I've never used it but I know people who have and I agree with your post.

My ex and I would talk about dudes we'd see on webcam who'd just stay up all night and "parTy" or "PNP" and it's sad how easily it takes ahold of people and for most people it's highly addictive.

A friend of mine along with his ex were both big into crank/meth in the mid 80s and early 90s and on and off until recently. My friend wound up finally getting sober last year, but his ex died from meth.
 
sconnie420 said:
Damn man, that's some serious shit right there. Glad u came out ok.
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Thanks man. I'm forever grateful to the cops who showed up, despite being able to charge me with assault on an officer they thought My baton was wicked cool and were all taking turns playing with it. Instead of arresting me they brainstormed how they could help me without negatively affecting my probation, I had various drugs in various places in my bedroom, including a scale sitting on my desk and they ignored them. in the ambulance I remembered I needed my suboxone and told them it was in the inside pocket of my backpack and instead of taking the opportunity to go through every pocket where there were wraps of methylone and k scattered about, they just grabbed the pills and gave them to me. I found out after there were wraps in that pocket with the subs that were even labelled and yet they respected my property and only grabbed what they were specifically looking for. the night was horrible but thanks to police who respect the law it ended a lot better than it potentially could have. they even gave me a property voucher for my baton so I could get it back from evidence.

gotta love big city cops.
 
down508 said:
Thanks man. I'm forever grateful to the cops who showed up, despite being able to charge me with assault on an officer they thought My baton was wicked cool and were all taking turns playing with it. Instead of arresting me they brainstormed how they could help me without negatively affecting my probation, I had various drugs in various places in my bedroom, including a scale sitting on my desk and they ignored them. in the ambulance I remembered I needed my suboxone and told them it was in the inside pocket of my backpack and instead of taking the opportunity to go through every pocket where there were wraps of methylone and k scattered about, they just grabbed the pills and gave them to me. I found out after there were wraps in that pocket with the subs that were even labelled and yet they respected my property and only grabbed what they were specifically looking for. the night was horrible but thanks to police who respect the law it ended a lot better than it potentially could have. they even gave me a property voucher for my baton so I could get it back from evidence.

gotta love big city cops.
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Glad to hear it
 
tricomb said:
LOL did anyone else miss this post? MDPV over meth in the name of harm reduction! lmao. yeah right, that shit is meth on crack!
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Actually if you look at how it works on your brain, it's pretty much meth on crack lol

@The King Of Beans, I keep seeing your posts, and they are extremely counter-HR (harm reduction), with the "meth speeds up your immune system and can cure your cold without making you sick again on the comedown" and then recommending MDPV over meth? Dude, you need to do some research before you post these things, someone could get hurt cause you gave them really bad advice! Please read the rules and guidelines before you post anything else, and even then, before you post something, research what you are saying, and know what is safe and what is not.
 
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