Stimulants Desire to try Meth, and not very comfortable about it.

[Snake_Plissken]

Meth just wasn't for me. I had no problems stopping when I decided to and haven't touched it or even thought about it since I quit (~1 year). Heroin on the other hand pops into my head atleast once a week. I would say no drug is really worth trying if you already feel confused about it.

 

[bdomihizayka]

I like to think of myself as a drug connoisseur. With that being said, I want to try EVERY know drug made to man before I die. Two drugs that I see absolutely NO recreational value of is Meth and Crack. Very fast high with Crack; and I mean it only lasts minutes.....Meth is like crack, but x's 100.....it lasts alot longer, but the initial "upper" euphoria doesn't really last, maybe a couple hours MAX; but you're wired in a very unsettling way for like 24 hours. It sucked..... I had no fun at all..... and I am an upper guy.... coke and amphetamine all day, but I will NEVER touch crack or meth again..... absolutely no euphoric value at all IMO.

 

[littlepenguin]

Please learn from our mistakes, don't make them yourself. Methamphetamine should never be tried, not even once. I'm not saying that you'll be hooked ever since that first hit, but your life will change forever.

ex-fucking-zactly.

I don't believe that I was instantly addicted, per say, from the first time trying it - however, it is like someobdy giving you a key to a door that you never knew existed. Behind the door could be anything, maybe you'll turn the key and nothing is there and immediately turn back around to never think about that place again. Or maybe you'll open the door and there will be unicorns shitting rainbows and butterflies doing the macarena. Or maybe, there may be something off in the distance, a promise or idea of something that could be amazing (holy hell, I could blow through hours of homework with this stuff, my house will always be clean, I'm going to be a regular superfuckingperson and god damn somebody should give me a cape and a trophy and ....)
Oh, sure - it always starts like that. It's like, a seductive temptress. You know you want it. You know it's available. You know damn well it's gonna feel good. But you know it's bad. When you get into meth, for most, that last sentence "but you know it's bad" goes DIRECTLY OUT THE WINDOW. Meth seems to personify things, magnifying certain qualities about someone, weather they be desirable or not. In fact, 'bad' becomes 'good.' It can become thrill seeking, the desire to push everything to the endless possible limits; to shock your own self just to get some kind of delight or feeling out of something.

A part of you goes numb. It's like staring into the eyes of nothingness.

I have never seen such deep, dark pain in someone's eyes as I have seen with someone in the throes of meth addiction. Very very very few people can keep it under wraps and "handle it" and "lead a normal life." But whatever your life was before, you can be damn sure it's going to be different. Even for someone like myself, who I consider having my shit together for the most part, life has changed in many ways, some good and some bad. I despise the people that this drug comes with. Sketchy, psychopathic, conniving, lying, sneaky, and people who will do ANYTHING to benefit themselves - nothing unless it benefits them. I stay away from these people at all costs, but sometimes, it is inevitable.

I seriously think that anyone who gives someone either meth or heroin, knowing it is the other person's first time, is to be damn near equated to a child molester. Think about it - you are *knowingly* giving something to someone that could potentially ruin their lives forever. I often reflect upon the first time I tried it and who offered it to me..."hey, you want some speed?" me: "what's that and how much does it cost?" him: "oh, i just got some extra stuff to get rid of here, no big deal - it will make you uppity, you'll probably wanna clean the house and won't sleep much the first night and it makes you feel kinda nice." me: "hmmm, sure. why not? not like I have anything better to do..."
fast forward 2 years of smoking meth every single day. Then I quit cold turkey because I got pregnant.
Fast forward 8 years of various other drugs & booze. First couple years, I didn't really think about meth a whole lot. It kinda always lingered in the back of my mind, though...the key to that door, dangling there in the back of my mind...I'd think of it a few times a week, and then brush it right off. 8 years later, I'm sitting in front of the computer writing a paper for one of the 20 credits I was taking in college after working a 12 hour serving shift. God damn, it would be nice to be high as fuck right now and plow through all this homework...
fast forward 2 years of smoking meth every single day.
8 fucking years, and nothing - and that little bastard in the back of my mind - UGH. It's like an itch that needs to be scratched. An undeniable craving, an idea of what you think may be but really isn't...

Meth - she's a tricky bitch. Nobody likes a tricky bitch.

Please. Don't do it.

 

[Hear Me Roar]

I think the forum has reach a consensus of....

Don't do it.

I needn't say more.

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

^agree with basically all

 

[SteeleyJ]

honestly I think you should reconsider, I've recently been aroun the shit....and Ive watched someone spin out of control with it.

 

[ErgicMergic]

Good rule: always go with your gut instinct.

If the idea feels wrong and out of place in your life, it probably is. Just know, you can never take back what you've experienced; you can always try meth at a later time in your life, but you can never forget the mind-melting euphoria that "burns" in to your memory like a branding steel against a cow, leaving a permanent "scar" that will influence your prefrontal cortex for years to come.

I have an addictive personality, which is why I will never try meth, heroin, GHB, powder cocaine, or crack.

 

[Toz]

So recently I have had a very strong urge to try Meth. By recently I mean for the last 3 or so months. This concerns me and I would like someone to give me a balanced view on the realities of Meth. I am a college student with a very balanced life going on. I also use other substances infrequently (MDMA, Psychedelics) and frequently but irregularly (Alcohol, Cannabis, Adderal) so I am able to balance real life and partying to a point that makes me comfortable.


What really concerns me is the realities of Meth addiction. Is this a situation similar to IV Heroin where you touch it and it sort of never leaves the back of your mind and more often then not leads to some sort of habit? Or is it similar to Cocaine where the addiction potential is there, but often IMO overstated.

Depends on the person taking it entirely. I've shot up meth a couple of times (although it is uncommon here in northern europe, we mostly get amphetamine sulphate powder) and while I have enjoyed it as long as the high lasts, I could never see myself getting addicted to it due to how horrible I think the comedown is and how "dirty" it makes me feel after a couple of days on it. My ex girlfriend who last time I saw her lived on the streets would beg to differ though I think.

Different drugs attracts different kinds of people I guess, if you want to be safe, don't do it. It's really the best advice I can give.

 

[blight12]

Depends on the person taking it entirely. I've shot up meth a couple of times (although it is uncommon here in northern europe, we mostly get amphetamine sulphate powder) and while I have enjoyed it as long as the high lasts, I could never see myself getting addicted to it due to how horrible I think the comedown is and how "dirty" it makes me feel after a couple of days on it. My ex girlfriend who last time I saw her lived on the streets would beg to differ though I think.

Different drugs attracts different kinds of people I guess, if you want to be safe, don't do it. It's really the best advice I can give.

I agree. I actually use meth at the moment and dont deal with the comedown due to using Seroquel.
This has made things even more dangerous since now there is no negative aspect whatsoever.
Try avoid this if possible, i think that comedown and other downsides is so necessary as its the only factor that might moderate your use or help you eventually realize its just not worth it and begin the journey to stop.

 

[tricomb]

Wow tri I've always known you to be an intelligent and balanced person when giving views on drugs; the emphasis you're putting on the dangers of meth has got me really surprised. Not being into uppers at all I've never read a single thread about meth before this one. I have one friend who goes on multiple-day binges frequently and he's told me numerous times I should try it, but I just dismissed it off-hand.
I'm going to make a point of avoiding this one like the plague, and more importantly keeping my wife the fuck away from it too (she was a massive coke-head for four years until I got her off it).
I'm glad I stumbled across this thread!

OP, you say you use Adderall frequently. If you're into uppers to that degree then I'd imagine you (admittedly without knowing you personally) would be a very likely candidate for addiction. My best friend ruined a year of his life and a lot of prospects with an MDPV addiction and by the end of it he was literally unrecognisable (thankfully he's back to normal now), it'd be a terrible shame if you let curiosity get the better of you. Be smart man, stay safe.

Yeah man, if your wife was a cocaine user, keep her the fuck away from crystal. It's like cocaine on crack on meth even. FTR, I'm not anti-meth per se, methamphetamine does have therapeutic value, but it's not really relevant to discuss therapeutic use here since we're discussing recreational use of illicit crystal methamp, and if one is hoping for therapeutic effects, it just can't be a street drug, it has to be the pharmaceutical version prescribed legally by a psychiatrist, or other qualified physician.

Im definitely against people who have never tried meth trying meth for the first time, that's for sure.

 

[pharma-sutra]

I have seen a beloved family member, whom I've seen first hand become addicted to this forbidden drug. He would constantly deny the fact that he has been binging or have any physiological addiction, even though it is god damn clear he's been tweaking for days on end. He went from being a cheerful, outgoing person to someone who is very short-tempered, lost a bunch of weight, and looks like literal shit (not to mention his poly-drug abuse/addiction with other drugs and the fact that he is on testosterone). He has had many meth induced psychotic episodes, in which he would think the police have bugged his car, his house, and tapping his phone. He barely gets any sleep, face ridden with acne and grease. Whenever I call him and talk to him in person, it is so hard to understand him, and he mumbles incoherent bullshit. And no matter how much I tried to persuade him to quit, no matter how many people who cared about him tried to convince him to steer away from that shit, I've always caught him right handed, in the bathroom taking rips on his meth pipe.

He was the one who introduced me to the recreational potential of drugs, and we have shared some good times. But once he got into crystal, it become a whole different story. One time, after a big rave, we got home and had an afterparty going and didn't want the night to end. He tried to drug everyone (successfully too) by methbombing everyone's drink. He offered people a huge jug of orange juice (but put in crushed up crystal in there). I was high for three days without any sleep, although I felt very good, and the high was very calm rather than what people perceive as being "tweaked out", but as I was approaching the 4th day without any sleep and coming down from a myriad of drugs, I just wanted to pass out but I couldn't. This was the first time and the last time I've ever tried crystal, and it was also the first time I've experienced stimulant psychosis. I couldn't sleep so I tried smoking a ton of pot, downed a handful of benzos, ketamine, and zolpidem/zolplicone, which didn't do shit all (who knew how much he actually put in that jug of OJ, most of our friends couldn't sleep either; and at the time I did not know or have any seroquel to help me comedown). I began having vivid, and surreal hallucinations, both auditory and visual. I was seeing people I knew who wasn't there, hearing people fucking that wasn't there. I also was doing the whole window warrior thing, watching out the windows and lurking about, because of paranoia.
In short, I never forgave him for drugging me with meth (because we all refused to partake in smoking meth or any meth consumption at that, turned him down every time he offered and he would go into a huge debate as that everyone has their drug of choice and I'm just being biased because of all the media portrayal), and it could be a fatal dose too. And I've already given up on trying to get him to quit. The whole family tried to get him to rehab, but he wouldn't go. He's been caught with possession, and the authorities has put him in rehab once, but he relapsed as soon as he was out. He's always had a stash hidden somewhere.
This is just another addiction story just to give you a grasp of the situation...GL

 

[tricomb]

^That's so not cool, but at least he mixed the meth with orange juice, so the acidic pH probably neutralized a lot of the meth.

I'm sorry you had to go through that man, drugging people is like, one of the lowest things a person could do.

honestly fuck that guy

 

[shreddedlettuce]

get a dog.

 

[tokenname]

^lol

 

[tina16th]

It completely depends on the person, the ROA and doses used, your individual predisposition for addiction (and everyone is different in which drug or types of drugs affect them the most addictively), your life situation at the time, the availability and quality of the drug, and so on.

Especially when used in large quantities and/or by fast acting ROAs I found it more immediately addicting than heroin; heroin addiction kind of creeps up on you (*also sources support this, that meth is faster addicting than heroin). But I found that for me, meth's addictiveness was nowhere near as powerful as heroin addiction and was much easier for me to stop because meth doesn't create anywhere near the level of physical dependence as heroin (and has certain side effects that heroin doesn't).

Oral use is the ROA I would recommend if you are going to try it, it feels less addictive, smoother, and lasts longer. Although I would still often get that feeling of wanting to do more when it wore off, or wanting to do it again the next weekend.

BUT this is all just me, YMMV for the reasons I mentioned above.

Plenty of people do become hopelessly addicted to meth. You can't know in advance if it will happen to you. And it doesn't have to be all day every day thing to be an addiction. Sometimes you can get mentally addicted to doing it a couple times a month, or every time you party you will feel like there is something missing if you don't do some, or you can have short addictive bursts where you do a multi-day binge. It's really a complex thing.

Meth is generally considered more physiologically addictive than cocaine. One site ascribes it to meth's long duration, after which you are left lacking dopamine and needing more meth just to feel normal. I also found the effects more enjoyable than cocaine personally. I've known people who used coke and didn't become addicted and did become addicted to meth, and vice versa. I think everyone will have their own opinion on which is more mentally addicting.

Only advice I have is turn don't burn and. Coco puffs in your. Bowl I.e little little black spects. Are no good

 

[Salandrion]

Wow, normally most people would be sitting her all pissy that people didn't enable them to get high. But I'm really happy that there seems to be a consensus here.

I often find with most drugs ever since I smoked pot the first time that I had a hard time believing the risk given that DEA bullshit literature clouds true assessment of the substance. It's encouraging that so many people can come forward and collectively agree that this is a bad idea. Outside of perhaps a very small dose thats in a pressed pill as a cut, I will not be trying Meth. It's just one of those things that's been nagging at me like "ya is it really that bad though?" From the sounds of it, it is.

Thanks BL

 

[Toz]

Wow, normally most people would be sitting her all pissy that people didn't enable them to get high. But I'm really happy that there seems to be a consensus here.

I often find with most drugs ever since I smoked pot the first time that I had a hard time believing the risk given that DEA bullshit literature clouds true assessment of the substance. It's encouraging that so many people can come forward and collectively agree that this is a bad idea. Outside of perhaps a very small dose thats in a pressed pill as a cut, I will not be trying Meth. It's just one of those things that's been nagging at me like "ya is it really that bad though?" From the sounds of it, it is.

Thanks BL

I'd just thought I'd point out that trying any substance will probably not be "as bad" as authorities try to describe them. I think that this is type of misinformation is dangerous since it leads people (or well, at least me to somepart) to think "oh well, that wasn't so bad, in fact, it was rather great!" after having tried said substance. You will not get addicted at once as the government tries to make it seem. However, just because some of the information is false, doesn't mean there are no dangers. I think they should focus more on actual facts instead of scare-tactics that doesn't even work in the first place.

 

[Renz Envy]

Meth is really the only drug that straight up lead into a road of messed up situations in which seemed perfectly normal and fun. It really does warp the human mind to resemble that of what a demon is personified as.

The Dangerous Bunch:
They smile at you and nod. They listen to your talk. "This person is cool right? They're extremely nice and into the same shit I am!"

They love to sit and listen, because the entire time they're analyzing you. They see your value and measure whether you're worth the time to rob. They will strip you of everything you own in a heart beat if they could get away with it.

I promise if you do meth you will meet them. If you start playing their game you lost.

 

[Tryptamino]

Meth is especially evil, because while it starts out as a seemingly relatively innocent party drug, it quickly becomes a life ruining drug that consumes its user's entire being, to a point where it stops even being fun anymore.

 

[dankhead88]

I have to admit. It's powerful. I IV'd it my first time(this was when I was shooting heroin quite often). Then after a while I smoked it. Then I started buying a bag. I've collected every one of my bags. These are 200mg or .2g bags. I think I THINK I have about 20 in the span of a month and a half. In the beginning, I was smoking it, IVing it, snorting bumps, and taking it intrarectally. I've tried every route of administration out there for this. This drug will increase obsessive compulsive behavior and will make you go carpet surfing for hours. Also your dick is going to be so raw. I'm saying your shaft won't even have any skin left. It's going to look like a shaft circumcision lol. I'm at the point now where I'm trying my best to take it orally by splitting my bag into separate doses for school or early morning shifts, but every now and then I bump it or IV, but it's hard not to. I'm also at the point where i'm eating on it now, sleeping on it(maybe like 6 hours max, also depends on dosage) and stop grinding my jaw on it. I'm tired every morning and it fucking sucks, but orally taking the drug has cut my use a bit. I need to sleep soon.. Gotta wake up at 10 but no mas metanfetamina para mi. All i have is a 5 hour energy and this other energy shot mixed together with like 4mg of whatever I had left over. Anyways, becareful trying to achieve the "semi charmed life" :-\

edit: and now I think I'm hearing the radio in a far background. bah. it's not even real.... srsly u guise