Stimulants Desire to try Meth, and not very comfortable about it.

[ErgicMergic]

Actually if you look at how it works on your brain, it's pretty much meth on crack lol

Exactly what I was thinking... I refer to "bath salts" as synthetic coke to people who bring it up, that it is like cocaine but "sped up" in all the wrong places, (for example, mdpv and mephedrone having too much Norepinephrine activity relative to its Dopamine activity, making them very side effect ridden when used recreationally for the enjoyable dopamine effects).

 

[Tryptamino]

^yup. that's why I would never use any stimulant besides coke I could get it.

 

[sconnie420]

Thanks man. I'm forever grateful to the cops who showed up, despite being able to charge me with assault on an officer they thought My baton was wicked cool and were all taking turns playing with it. Instead of arresting me they brainstormed how they could help me without negatively affecting my probation, I had various drugs in various places in my bedroom, including a scale sitting on my desk and they ignored them. in the ambulance I remembered I needed my suboxone and told them it was in the inside pocket of my backpack and instead of taking the opportunity to go through every pocket where there were wraps of methylone and k scattered about, they just grabbed the pills and gave them to me. I found out after there were wraps in that pocket with the subs that were even labelled and yet they respected my property and only grabbed what they were specifically looking for. the night was horrible but thanks to police who respect the law it ended a lot better than it potentially could have. they even gave me a property voucher for my baton so I could get it back from evidence.

gotta love big city cops.

That's really cool. Its nice 2 know not all 5•0 suck..

 

[pharma-sutra]

LOL did anyone else miss this post? MDPV over meth in the name of harm reduction! lmao. yeah right, that shit is meth on crack!

yeah, um King of Beans, why would you introduce this fellow bl'er to try out PV over... a rather small oral dose of meth? pv is really hard to pinpoint the dosage that produces enough euphoria that balances out with it's negative side effects. And you often have to add in some opiates, hypnotics and a handful anxiolytics, or even booze to bring you down if you accidently over do it and the comedown if you have binged for a few days. Basically, KofB that was kind of out of the line, as we are supposed to give HR advice.

And i've read your posts over at the 3mmc thread. Please, stop selling it already, are you a vendor or something?

Hahaha that's a good way to put it. I think MDPV is the most destructive drug on the face of this planet (aside I suppose from Krokodil).

iirc the synthesis of Desomorphine aka Krokodil is rather simple and cheap, much like meth made in motel or garage home-labs. And many of these cooks don't even bother with purification process and so the toxic byproducts is what putting the drug to its infamous name. If it was produced in clandestine facilities similar to meth superlabs, I don't think it would be worse than any other strong opiates or hard drugs.

 

[The King of Beans]

Hahaha that's a good way to put it. I think MDPV is the most destructive drug on the face of this planet (aside I suppose from Krokodil).

Yeah I was just kiddin but meth is pretty boring. Not sure how people become so addicted to something so toxic. No offense but a smart person would take it easy on something that causes them to not sleep or eat. I've done binges for 30 days straight(but not meth, just random stims in general) and I still slept and ate. On my most hardcore days on the bath salts I'd go maybe a day and half without eating but that's it. After that it's time to eat. I'm sorry you can't keep doing that shit and expect to stay sane. I've never once went psycho. I think that is all a matter of how fragile or ignorant the user is. I am not saying I am immune, I am just saying I would never let it get to that point. The drug itself does not make you hallucinate. It's the not sleeping/eating. I would not do a stimulant without sleeping or eating afterwards.

PS- and I agree with whoever said orally. That is how I mostly do it. Snorting is ok on occasion but it wastes the drug in my experience, orally is always better and longer lasting. But with meth I dont know. I am no expert on meth. I guess people prefer to snort it. I've tried it a few times and I remember it burns like fuck. What kind of fools would want to sit around snorting that crap all day?

And as for the 3mmc, no Im not a vendor, just gave an honest report. I have always been honest, as I hate to see all the crazy info here like "6-apb makes you roll" I debunked that theory...it actually is more of a trippy roll, which is nothing like MDMA. But when you combine it with m1, THEN it's on the level of MDMA but still not as fun or energetic. But loved up to the extreme I must say! I was surprised, it was the only way I can "Roll" from 6apb is by mixing it.

And last, let me say that MDPV is not the worst drug out there. It depends on the user. The drug itself harms nothing. I had purchased only 500 mg's of MDPV, which lasted me almost a year! So a half a gram in a little under a year I think is pretty good. Definitely didn't abuse it. Only got high from it maybe once or when I mixed it with other shit. But it's a potent drug so it lasts forever. I can't believe all these freaks who say they abuse the crap out of it and wonder why they go psycho. You only need to do one dose per day! But yeah, it won't fuck you up if you do that. But that's the whole point if you want it to be therapeutic. I personally suffer from ADD extremely bad, so MDPV helps a bit.

 

[pharma-sutra]

And last, let me say that MDPV is not the worst drug out there. It depends on the user. The drug itself harms nothing. I had purchased only 500 mg's of MDPV, which lasted me almost a year! So a half a gram in a little under a year I think is pretty good. Definitely didn't abuse it. Only got high from it maybe once or when I mixed it with other shit. But it's a potent drug so it lasts forever. I can't believe all these freaks who say they abuse the crap out of it and wonder why they go psycho. You only need to do one dose per day! But yeah, it won't fuck you up if you do that. But that's the whole point if you want it to be therapeutic. I personally suffer from ADD extremely bad, so MDPV helps a bit.

haha, how I once thought it was actually good for ADD as well. you only think it is because you are still in the pv mindset. try doing work, study or write on mdpv. then look back on your work when you're sober. you'll know exactly what I mean, especially realizing how much time you would eventually waste trying pull something together.

 

[Renz Envy]

A man in his 40s once told me that if a person uses meth, they will eventually end up either dead or in prison.

I thought, "Ah! Senile already."

Upon using it, this new world opened up. Like starting a video game. Yet this land followed all of the same rules of the previous world. This world was about capturing magical crystals and money without other players taking from you. Meanwhile you were avoiding cars with flashing lights who would send you out of the game. Antagonistic players could send you out as well.

As a beginner it is easy. Some progress faster than others. Eventually some users will become so desperate to capture the crystals, they will rely on poor decision making; raising their chances of getting kicked out of the game. At a higher level it is mandatory to always have a baseline of crystals to gather money and more crystals.

But it's not a game.
The non-players will detest you.
Love is an episode. Not a lifestyle.
The withdrawals are excessive sleep. Sleep is the cousin of death.
The grim reaper stands next to you like your best friend.

 

[shreddedlettuce]

^^

Couldn't resist.

But seriously, that was a well written post and a nice post to read.
I agree, and if you HAVE to "play" this game, you don't want to "level up".

 

[down508]

Yeah I was just kiddin but meth is pretty boring. Not sure how people become so addicted to something so toxic. No offense but a smart person would take it easy on something that causes them to not sleep or eat. I've done binges for 30 days straight(but not meth, just random stims in general) and I still slept and ate. On my most hardcore days on the bath salts I'd go maybe a day and half without eating but that's it. After that it's time to eat. I'm sorry you can't keep doing that shit and expect to stay sane. I've never once went psycho. I think that is all a matter of how fragile or ignorant the user is. I am not saying I am immune, I am just saying I would never let it get to that point. The drug itself does not make you hallucinate. It's the not sleeping/eating. I would not do a stimulant without sleeping or eating

Ok sorry but I have to interject. this is like people saying "(random drug) is only addictive if you binge on it, just don't take a lot and you won't get addicted " certain drugs are known to be habit forming, and once they enter someone's blood stream whatever plans they had prior to using are no longer a top priority. this is how drugs work, and underestimating their effects on judgement does no one any good.

with many people once they consume and feel the effects of certain drugs, whatever plan or strategy they had prior to use goes out the window, that's why they are called drugs, they effect the way you think. same goes with eating and sleeping, meth is one of the most powerful stimulants dose for dose (not by weight) and its potent stimulant effects make it extremely difficult to eat or sleep for a good amount of time after each dose, and many people take more than one dose, meaning they can be up for days just from a handful of doses. I'm sure that you already know all this, but promoting a mind over matter approach in regards to potent psychoactive is not harm reduction. mind over matter does not come into play when drugs are involved, particularly meth. that is like telling people they just need to not get high, and they will cease to be addicted. things are not that simple, and you cannot rely on normal mental functions when you are taking substances that are designed to mess with ones mental functions.

sorry, but I had to say it.