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Describe stimulant addiction hell to the innocent out there.. in one sentence.

Stims are an addiction that, when your off them and coming down feel like a miserable loser and all your negative aspects in life are amplified ten fold. But when your on it, you feel so damn accomplished, proud of oneself and have that feeling your living things right. Its what keeps you coming back!

Its tricky, Im no full blown addict and dont use much compared to some, still keep my use to weekends mainly. But even when I know I should save, or hold off til things are stable I find it and it finds me.
 
citizenuzi said:
Not to put it down, this is from someone who has suffered a stim infatuation ever since I've been trying for years to lay off and kick the opiates.

But it always seemed to me that tweakers and amp bingers had it easy. Can't get drug? Go to bed. The amps are physically addictive (to what extent I don't know 100% but it's FAR less than benzos or opiates) but the W/D seems to me to be just sleeping for a week (observed many a time). I can understand the lack of dopamine/serotonin mentally fucking you up but with opiates there's that AND a horrifically, disgustingly unpleasant body giddiness (giddiness is NOT the right word more like "want to rip my flesh off and dismember myselfiness), lack of the sleep you crave so so so bad, and a host of others....I guess I just don't take it as seriously
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'Not to put it down...But?' What's the point of your post? To tell stim addicts they don't have it as bad as you? What does that achieve except show your glaringly ignorant, condescending and irrelevent point of view? Your post is useless, naive and offensive, and I don't know what you hoped to achieve by posting it, apart from dicksizing about how much worse you think it is for you 8)
 
Rolling Sly said:
Its tricky, Im no full blown addict and dont use much compared to some, still keep my use to weekends mainly. But even when I know I should save, or hold off til things are stable I find it and it finds me.
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I think this exemplifies the potential for addiction. I do consider myself an addict nd this "weekend use only" pattern is all I've displayed. Only you realise that your happiness during the week declines and you start thinking about how you could start dosing, just smaller dures the week. That's when I decided it had to stop. I didnt become a full on addict as we think of but I'm sure it would have happened if I hadn't put the brakes on.
 
Hardcoreprawn said:
I think this exemplifies the potential for addiction. I do consider myself an addict nd this "weekend use only" pattern is all I've displayed. Only you realise that your happiness during the week declines and you start thinking about how you could start dosing, just smaller dures the week. That's when I decided it had to stop. I didnt become a full on addict as we think of but I'm sure it would have happened if I hadn't put the brakes on.
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I second Hardcoreprawn with that, i can only wish i had seen the potential of my "once and a while" use...it used to be going through bottles of percs or adderall when i happened to come by them....now its questing for bottles of percs and adderall...at any cost. its total chaos
 
well......

i know this isn't the point of thread, but i must agree w/the post below. as a life long opiate fiend i have spent TOO MANY times in jails, psych wards, and detoxes to feel much pity for the speed freaks. they sleep, they eat, they sleep, they're grumpy probably, but they're eating full meals, no matter how nasty, and sleeping the rest of the time compare that to me, junkie fiend, flip flopping in my be bed, running to puke in the toilet, losing control of my bowels in my own bed and being trapped........dry heaving covered in sweat and shivering w/cold, awake all night/day.... i just think junkies have it far worse during detox, though this isn't to say that stimulants won't fuck you up permanently - in a serious mental and physical way, and opiates simply don't do damage to your body like that.

BUT TO ADDRESS THE POINT OF THE THREAD: you waste your life. you waste your body. you lose your teeth. your skin ages twenty years. you waste your brain in ways that sometimes cannot be repaired. you spend all day doing NOTHING while you're high (i mean, you do plenty, plenty of nothing: rearrange furniture, pick your face, start insane projects that don't get finished and if they do, so what? they are insane. then you come down and the depression makes you want to kill yourself and the only thing keeping you from doing that is the intenses craving for more of the drug. it is deadly. it is hell.

citizenuzi said:
Not to put it down, this is from someone who has suffered a stim infatuation ever since I've been trying for years to lay off and kick the opiates.

But it always seemed to me that tweakers and amp bingers had it easy. Can't get drug? Go to bed. The amps are physically addictive (to what extent I don't know 100% but it's FAR less than benzos or opiates) but the W/D seems to me to be just sleeping for a week (observed many a time). I can understand the lack of dopamine/serotonin mentally fucking you up but with opiates there's that AND a horrifically, disgustingly unpleasant body giddiness (giddiness is NOT the right word more like "want to rip my flesh off and dismember myselfiness), lack of the sleep you crave so so so bad, and a host of others.

The worst is of course the psychoses, the I've been up for days QUICK is that the FSB/CIA/MOSSAD in my window?!!? Shit that turns people batshit. I have been there, but only a little. I love coke. I do huge amounts just to achieve the maximum ringers, riding the line of seizure and brute pleasure. I've been getting into RC stims, the less jittery the better. But these aren't my go-to's. I always want benzos or opes (CANT HAVE ANYMORE, fuck) to end it when I'm done. I'd rather be out $50 for that amazing 5 minutes of coke (followed by a 30 min so so high and then crizash) than go hours and days. I hear meth may change my mind, but it's not available and I'm in no hurry. I guess this coincides with the point someone made about stims leading to benzos n' opiates.... I remember I used to not even look twice at even coke unless I had dope or benzos to bring me off gently. Now with tolerance I just muscle it out a lot of the time.

I guess to keep it concise(ish) and yes, I am kicking/have kicked off off a 2 day run on 4-MEC, 4-FA, and probably coke, maybe mdpv and 2-cI.... I wouldn't wish serious opiate withdrawal on my worst enemies (but I would wish death upon them) and benzo withdrawal is psychologically brutal if you can remedy the seizures.

I guess I just don't take it as seriously, of course I'm a long time doper and short time speeder so... who knows
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I was agreeing w/ a previous poster (quoted) and if you'd read the whole post yould see that I Did address point of the thread, and certainly didn't dicksize anything. You didn't even start the thread,so why r u hasslling me? Your post didn't addresss the point of the thread at all. But point taken: I'll b more carful in future.
 
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I know you addressed the thread in the 2nd part, I was clearly referring to the part where you said

sleepy said:
i know this isn't the point of thread, but i must agree w/the post below.
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I responded to that post too, and that applies to you as well.

I don't see the point of coming in here, a thread about stimulant addiction, and saying (in so many words) that opiate addiction is so much worse. It's irrelevant.

Mostly though, I think it's rude. By coming in here and saying that you think stim addicts have it easy compared to you, you come across as condescending, because you're diminishing and belittling what they go through.
 
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Okay- I'll b more thoughtful in future - but I didn't belittle the addiction at all - in fact the opposite - I said it'll harm your body in ways that opiates don't - I did "belittle" the wd - that's all - but I'll be more considerate in future
 
Stim addiction makes me feel guilty, my reassuring smile turns in to a rictus grin of a schizo, so I retreat from everyone so I can properly destroy myself in peace. I dare you to look in that mirror if you haven't been indoors for a few weeks and are 25+ pounds underweight. I wonder how long I've gone without speaking a single word?
 
lol! "just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you" .. i don't know who said it. probably a tweaker. meth kills your soul, steals all your money, wastes your brain and other major organs, rots your teeth, scares away any real friends, leads you to the psych ward or prison, or morgue.

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Being so paranoid about people following you, that it draws attention and people begin to actually follow you..
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Felling fantastic for a couple hours, then just blah, getting so mad that you can't fall asleep. Perhaps you get two hour, wake up and do it all over again. Not to mention not eating for several days straight and feeling like a walking zombie after those first few good hours.
 
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