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Define "comedown"

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Im my mind there is confusion as to the definition of the term "comedown". Especially when you read a pill report.
Eg: COMEDOWN 1 - "Felt great after the peak, no comedown as I was able to get to sleep easily"
COMEDOWN 2: "Later the next day the comedown was bad, my head was sore, and I was very irritable"
So... Does the period of comedown begin once the peaking has stopped and the efffects have finished...
Or... is the comedown the next day (or later that same day), continuing onto the next few days?
 
Some people say a comedown is when the peak effects stop (regardless of how good or bad you feel), and some people say that a comedown is when you feel noticably shit after the drugs have worn off.
Personally I believe in the former description, which is why it seems strange to me that people say "I don't get comedowns". The way I see it, if you're not as high as you were before, you've come down from that high.
But the deninition really depends who you talk to cos there's lotsa people that believe the latter. :)
 
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OK maybe a diagram will help. Take the hastily scrawled jpeg above to represent how someone feels while taking MDMA. The horizontal axis is feeling normal, above it is feeling good, below it is feeling bad.
Person One is represented by the blue line. This person, after the "comeup", slowly returns to feeling normal, the baseline. This person may consider the "comedown" to be that time between the end of the plateau and this return to "normal".
Person Two is represented by the red line. This person's experience is different, as after the plateau they feel less good, passing thru the point of "normal" and for a time feeling bad. They will then (hopefully) slowly raise up to "normal" again. For this person the "comedown" might be considered the time period below the "normal" axis.
Neither of these two interpretations is "correct as none of the above is exact science. We are talking about semantic variations on a person's description of a subjective event. As with anytime a person is using such language we need to put their comments into context.
 
I personally say when i'm actually becoming straight, i just whinge and say "damn i'm straight again", i call my comedown on the Tuesday or so, happens everytime without fail, very moody, weepy, snappy, that's my comedown... getting very used to it though :)
 
^^^ very well explained johnboy.
i found that i'd come down like a tonne of bricks (extremely depressing thoughts, anti-social behaviour, easily irritable, tiredness and general "i hate my life" kinda crap) off any amphetamines... mdma more so than speed, obviously.
it'd be shocking for the first few hours of the comedown, after which i'd usually sleep, and after 2-3 days i was usually back to baseline.
sounds like shit? it was, that's why i quit.
[ 26 March 2002: Message edited by: apollo ]
 
comedown for me is the time that you begin to realise that you are not peaking anymore and you just want to go back up there.
Normally I do exactly that.
But there is a time where you have to "come down" and it really is the pits.
 
i usually consider the 'come down' to be during and after the 'cruisy' period of the roll. for me, usually after the peak stops, i know im still rolling, but its far weaker than a peak, and it continues to gradually weaken until i reach baseline. i usually get cruisy around 4 hours after dropping, and this continues for 1 to 3 hours.
usually, after the cruisy period, i get very tired and or irritable. i think the cruisy period ive described is because dopamine is still be released while seratonin isnt, and when the mdma finally stops releasing dopamine, i get tired.
i too get frustrated when people say 'come down' and its hard to determine whether they mean 6 hours or 2 days later...
 
I think the term 'comedown' would be more accurate when referring to the return to baseline (or worse). The 'aftermath' would be the next few days and whatever they entail.
But how bad your comedown is (and aftermath for that matter), all depends on your attitude. Keep a positive frame of mind at all times.
 
yeah , its an individual thing.
For me the 'come down' is more of a 'its wearing off'. I acknowledge its over, but im in a great mood after the experience and continue to be in that mood for a few days - major afterglow :-) . Haven't had the 'tuesday blues' or similar before.
 
comedowns represented by sine waves...
funny :)
As stated a million times before, comedowns can be controlled with a positive state of mind. You eventually get to the point where there is no comedown. :)
 
Originally posted by Mr. Horse:
As stated a million times before, comedowns can be controlled with a positive state of mind. You eventually get to the point where there is no comedown. :)
I try to stay in a positive and joyful mood afterwards and it normaly does the trick.. I dont really get agitated and grumpy or upset until about a week after and then its only one bad day.
[ 30 March 2002: Message edited by: Schwoop ]
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I totally agree with the comedown/aftermath theory.
I can come down off a pill when cruising after the peak...this is starting to be non existent since by reminding myself of all little things in life that are great i get an incredibly gradual comedown. So in terms of direct post-peak i really have no such comedown.
1st stage aftermath however begins when the party is over, its daylight and im craving sleep...
2nd stage aftermath is over the course of the following week where generally i get very very depressed (im normally quite depressive as is). This is not so much fun but I can counter this by going to gym, reading good novels and spending time with quality friends.
hmm bit off track..well what can you do when racing at 3am in the morning?
you are all well wicked.
 
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