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Opioids Defeating the new OC time release

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wouldn't you need 100% acetone though cause the other kind has water in it which would cause it to gel.
 
affasd said:
wouldn't you need 100% acetone though cause the other kind has water in it which would cause it to gel.
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This is just a guess, but I would think that as long as the water percentage was less than 5%, you should be fine.
 
Whats the big deal getting PURE acetone? You can get Acetone from every hardware store in the country... it is not a controlled substance
 
Water is Bad, MmmmKay?

Like jamesBrown and affasd mention above you, non 100 percent acetone could have water quantities that could contribute to the pills gelling up.
 
Supeudol said:
Haven't seen these coming to Canada either.
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I got my per of 20's and still have CDN on the other side =D If they do decide to change the formulation up here I suspect it wont be for quite a while. Hopefully. Im laughing at this thread while busting my 40 and 2 20 CDN's

Oh how I love canada eh
 
pixplzthx said:
Like jamesBrown and affasd mention above you, non 100 percent acetone could have water quantities that could contribute to the pills gelling up.
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to remove the water out of the acetone freeze it in your freezer.. the water will freeze far b4 the acetone so just remove what is frozen and you will be left with almost 100% acetone.

water freezes at 0 C, and 32 F.
acetone freezes at -94 C,and -138 F
 
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pixplzthx said:
Like jamesBrown and affasd mention above you, non 100 percent acetone could have water quantities that could contribute to the pills gelling up.
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yeah there's going to be a very small percentage of water, like 0.05% i've read from some manufacturers, in the solution though i suspect it would have little or no effects on the pills gelling up after the extraction.
 
got a quart of 100 percent acetone from the hardware store. shredded two op80s and soaked them with about a tablespoon of acetone. let dry. no dice. the shit is still all gummy. acetone seems to do fuck all.

would someone with MEK mind doing the same experiment and let me know? i mean, soak a shredded pill or two and see if they can dissolve in water wihtout gum? i'd like to avoid buying more weird chemicals if they are useless.
 
Fight the power. The Man, just keeping us down.

I wonder if it ends up not working nearly as well for "legit CP's" and enough people complain if we could possibly force them to go back.

There's enough of us(OC users) that could make a dent if we boycot these new "OP's" or something to that effe
ct.

I just think along with trying to find a way to beat the new formula maybe we could try to find a way to get rid of it all together.

From what I've read, they didn't just add some ingredients to make abuse hard they changed the bioequivalence or bioavailability, does anyone know how many drug trials they did, or studies. They couldn't have done that much in such a short amount of time to actually know the real long term effects.

So is there any lawyers here that want to start a class action lawsuit lol
Or perhaps we could collect signatures..
 
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^i dont think they could have changed the BA but they could have changed the timing that the oxy is released making it feel weaker or something like that.
 
HdoubleODeezy said:
^i dont think they could have changed the BA but they could have changed the timing that the oxy is released making it feel weaker or something like that.
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Yeah I meant bioequivalence, I was on a rant right after I took my night dose so I mistaked one for the other but then I edited it to say both just incase I'm wrong about being wrong lol

Sorries man
 
no need for sorry.. i was just pointing it out, not trying to sound like a dick or anything. sorry if i came off like that. its all good, we all do it.
 
I signed up for this site after I basically read every single post in this thread. All I've tried is the microwaving method after grinding it up with a ped egg...this was before I found this thread that said it didn't work. It did seem to work a little better than not microwaving it, but nowhere near what regular OCs do. My boyfriend and I are also even just a little worried about how these new OPs are going to affect people. I can't see this gel/plastic substance being ok for your body. And is there a forum about people getting around the generic ones with the gel, like the Teva brand? obviously it's not going to be defeated the same way, but maybe it would be easier to try looking for the generic brand?

I definitely prefer snorting, but even swallowing these OPs doesn't seem to do much.
 
HdoubleODeezy said:
^i dont think they could have changed the BA but they could have changed the timing that the oxy is released making it feel weaker or something like that.
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the original (popular) OC's only have an 8hr time release mechanism compared to the 12 hour time release on the OP.

its deinitely an improvement for those of us on PM seeing we'rw getting the right coverage (12hrs tr) instead of just 8hrs. it allows for peaks and troughs to be more consistent of the plasma concentration levels of the drug in your system.
 
What about freezing them? Has anyone ever tried it with the old generic OC or any other CR med?

I'm just thinking it might change the molecular structure enough for long enough to break/crush up and take/use.

Like rubber for example, get it cold enough and it will break, crack whatever. I'm not talking liquid nitrogen but it's a thought..
 
grafitti said:
it should be ground not shredded to a fine powder and not gooey at all , i would say u did not let it evaporate u must make certain it is mixed well so that the m e k comes in contact with every particle , very little of the filler makes alot of blue goo , make sure it is finely ground and all of it comes in contact with m e k or u will still have blue goo , make sure it is dry and no smell or trace of m e k , it should be nice and dry much like the old ones , i have got it down pretty good now, i am satisfied when i am about ready to giveup i can escape reality for a few hours , i would not do this everyday ,but at least i know i can when i am unable to walk and am totally losing it escaping reality really helps when u know u will not have use of legs much longer ,then after legs r gone its gonna get worse
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What would you use to grind it instead of shredding? What would you consider using the ped egg? I've tried that, but would you consider that shredding and if so what should be used to grind?
 
leftwing said:
the original (popular) OC's only have an 8hr time release mechanism compared to the 12 hour time release on the OP.

its deinitely an improvement for those of us on PM seeing we'rw getting the right coverage (12hrs tr) instead of just 8hrs. it allows for peaks and troughs to be more consistent of the plasma concentration levels of the drug in your system.
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cool.. thanks, didn't know that.. not that it matters for me anyways but i like to have as much knowledge as i can about anything im interested in.. %)
 
Hahahahha you guys have 23 pages of bullshit and I have figured out how to extract oxycodone with my first experiment. I am nodding as we speak--- figuring this out is SO simple because Purdues PDF website tells you EXACTLY how to extract oxycodone from the new formulation. If you want to know how to extract OC from OP check my thread here:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=523580

Yall owe me =P
 
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jaystyle said:
Hahahahha you guys have 23 pages of bullshit and I have figured out how to extract oxycodone with my first experiment. I am nodding as we speak--- figuring this out is SO simple because Purdues PDF website tells you EXACTLY how to extract oxycodone from the new formulation. I dont know how so many brains can get together and accomplish nothing on SO many different boards, but if you want to know how to extract OC from OP check my thread here:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=523580

You all owe me big time!
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Hopefully you're experiments proved successful. Great thread you've started though.
 
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