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not completly....i like the epson salt/oven method that way the pills stay intact as aposed to the micro method
Opioids Defeating the new OC time release
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not completly....i like the epson salt/oven method that way the pills stay intact as aposed to the micro method
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I got the qualitest this time around and usually get the Mallies and I have noticed that the q's just make me feel heavily sedated and tired whereas the mallies are a warm bubbly high similar to the high you would get from taking hydrocodone for the first time. The q 30's are about half the size of the mallie 30's as well so the mallies obviously have a lot more fillers and other stuff. I used to snort two 80's at once and I swear to you that snorting just 2 of the q 30's makes me nod way harder than I ever have. I did three the other day and it just put my ass to sleep it was crazy. I've been on oxy for 3 years so it's not like I don't have a tolerance I just found it to be pretty crazy. I tried to start a thread the other day asking what peoples favorite brand of roxi's are and one of the mods shut it down saying "they're all just generic meds made by different companies containing the exact same chemical there cant be that much of a difference between them." But he was wrong and I am really glad that I have others that agree with me on this to and I can now back up that they are for a fact all different and provide different feelings and highs. I def will be going back to my mallies when I get my script refilled this month. But as far as for snorting the q's are my favorite hands down.
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hey this is in the homeless threads i started it and need people opinions
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a 2010 poll on everyones Favorite generic Roxi ir Or brand name & why?
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Sodium Carbonate
Regarding the attachment to your posting, I'm trying a sodium carbonate solution for 24 hours. I'll report if it works.
Regarding the attachment to your posting, I'm trying a sodium carbonate solution for 24 hours. I'll report if it works.
clementines_ghost
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Ok everyone, check these 3 links out:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=526460
http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/oxycontin/TH55RSHFFBVACGDR7
http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/oxycontin/T83UD59SJS71UUPOP
It's a little tough at first. But once you get the hang of it, it works wonderfully.
Makes it completely snortable, IV'able, eatable, drinkable.. whatever
It doesn't gel up after using this method.
Just give it a try please.
In all of my research, I've found my method to be the safest.
As it doesn't require any chemicals, and the microwave just burns away the poylmer.
Also, on that DEA PDF about the OP's, they say there are solvents that defeat the formula, but they don't say what. It could be anything, and for all we know, they could be chemicals very harmful to the human body. Until someone finds a way to safely and quickly dissolve away the gel/polymers, give this method a try please. It really does work. Read about it (the 2nd and 3rd link) on Topix.
Everyone who has tried it, and followed the instructions exactly, have had nothing but success.
I'm not trying to start a fight or anything, I just want people to know there IS a way to make this stuff not gel up (for insufflation/IV/chewing/drinking)..
PM me for any questions about the method or if you have any trouble and I will be MORE than happy to help.
Rurik, first, thanks for doing all the experimenting you did. I appreciate it.
I tried your method this morning -- I do not snort or IV, so my intention was to use your method to prep the OC for drinking, since it apparently does not gel up in water this way. I did everything exactly as you said (I am nothing if not precise and patient) and when I removed the plate from the freezer, the material on it was a shiny, almost glass-like, hard brown mass. I used a razor to scrape it up into a pile of shiny brown goldfish food-looking flakes, and then just to test it, I dipped my finger into it and tasted a few flakes. Oh. My. God. That had to be the worst tasting things I have ever had in my mouth. I *chew* OCs on a daily basis and almost enjoy the bitterness, so it wasn't the normal "oxy" taste AT ALL. Instead it tasted like something salty & rotten, like rotten meat or rotten flesh. Absolutely HAD to get it out of my mouth immediately. I don't care if it would get me sweet-spot high for 96 hours straight, I could not ingest something that tasted that foul in that particular way.
Did I do something wrong? Is the final product supposed to look like shiny fish flakes?
My other question is: I haven't been able to to verify one single person who has actually completed this method and then drank the results with water or whatever. I prefer not to be the guinea pig on that (esp. with that taste, OMG), so does anyone here know of a person who has done the Rurik Method for drinking instead of shooting or insufflating? And not, like, my sister's husband's landlord's nephew, but someone I could verify had actually done it?
For now, I have a baby food jar of shiny brown flakes in the cupboard and am back to my trusty old SPK method.
Thanks again.
Unbreakable
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put the scrapings in a empty Pill & down the hatchet....
brooklynbuRniNg5
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well yeah but dont they want to start distributing these INSTEAD of brand name oxys?
i realize there are still generic brands but i was under the impression this is gonna be a complete switch from OC to OP
and if so that sucks fellow bluelighters
i realize there are still generic brands but i was under the impression this is gonna be a complete switch from OC to OP
and if so that sucks fellow bluelighters
jgwire
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I cut an 80 in half just now,using a very small, but sharp knife...almost like a swiss army knife, those little kind with all the gadgets. These new oxies made by purdue are the only ones being sold now, my pharmacist toldme.
Ive got a few to spare to try different ways -- but the advice I get here -- though probably GREAT advice -- is difficult for me to understand.... I am not good at chemesty -- who is except a chemist???!
Right now, I'm soaking on in a half glass of sprite -- the lemon flavored soft drink-- got the tip to soak it in something with acidy citris liquid. the pill has doubled in size -- I didn't attempt to cut it up. I'm just gonna let it sit overnight and see what happens.
My paindoc -- a REALLY cool guys who is ready to quit being a doctor because the gov't cut doctor's medicare pay by 21 perecent......BUt that's another story.....7 years ago, they decided to cut medicare payments 3 percent every year to attempt to lower costs -- but they shelved it again and again for seven years.........This year, they DID NOT put it on the back burner and let it take effect. that's why it's a 21 perecent cut......3x7= 21 ---- It's outragous.
More bad news on the rxd front. The FDA decided to spend almost a year forming a committee to come up with a REMS plan for long acting opiates -- REMS stands for RISK ASSESSMENT MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES. When the pabnel of 20 something brought their recommendations to the FDA honchos, they said it wasn't "STRONG ENOUGH" and didn't go far enough in keeping theclass II long acting opiates from making onto the street. -- so they scrapped the whole idea -- and they are doing to start again next year -- it will be much stricter -- alltheway to the point to where doctors may have to undergo further training in order to even rx opiates -- My pain doc said many docs are just refusing to write for them because it's becoming such a hassle.
AND -- now the FDA has decided to add IR opiates to the list for a REMS study -- For those who don't know, a REMS study is a plan or protocal, I think< that doctors must follow in order to bge able to rx the drugs in the first place -- so here comes MR GOVERNMENT AGAIN,,, peeking inside your medicine cabinet and telling US again what we can and can't take Mr. GOV'T: keep you claws off my medicine cabinet -- I want to move to England..... This country sucks
But I digress. You can crush these things to a certain point -- to where a hammer won't even pulverize them.......then you can take the pieces and manually break them down with your fingers -- but it takes about 45 mkinutes just to get one pill ready to do -- and forget about snorting or IVing -- dont knowabout plugging.....If anyoneis like me and doens't know thefirst thingabout chemesty and science and matrixes and all that stuffpeople talkabout on here, the easiest thing to do is get the pieces as small as you can by whatever means ytou can.....and then take the littel chunks and rolol them between your fingers to break them up even more -- but for somebody who is used to take up to 10 80s a day -- that is ALL i will be doing all day -- breaking up pills.
The goven't really pulled a stupid one this time -- yearh, oxy was killing people who didn't use it right or didn't know how to use it right -- but if you DID then you were safe.......but now everyone willl return back to tar and that stuff will kill you slowlyt in so many ways that there are too many to list.
So in case anybody thinks this is goinhg to CURB opiate abuse, they're fooling themselves -- we're gonna have a tarheroin epedimic like we've never seen inthis country -- and so many more people will die because of this STUPID songand dance the farmacutical companies play with the gov'y
I'm sufferingfrom chronic pain from three fusions a broken kneecap and a host of spinal ailments -- and an incrediable tolerancebecause I am an addict as well, who started slamiming dilaudid at 19 -- I'm 51 now -- and all I want is to be left in peace and be allowed to takie enough "medicine" to keep me comfotable and out of bed.......I don't sell my pills I don't give them awatyl. I don't even tell people I have them...I no longer even know anyone in this town to get street dope from -- I've been on massive amountsof methadone and Fentanyland OxyContin -- and Xanax but I'm off that stuff,thank god == but I feel like we addicts always feel when a reallty good connection suddenly comes to and end and we are left scrambling forwhatever we can get at whatrever price......And I need this stuff tofunction because of mky pain.
God have mercy on my soul -- and anybodty else who had made Massicve Oxy use a daily routine and I refuse to slam tar -- though china white would bne nice.... allgood things come to an end.... sources ALWAYS dry up -- andthis one has for sure......so long OC --
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I tried a Dremel per so many recommendations and found that a lot of the pill ended up as dust in the air. I think I ended up loosing about 1/2 of the pill.
A much better solution is to go to a Housewares store such as Bed Bath and Beyond. They carry a variety of graters. Believe it or not I found a Nutmeg grater which had very fine holes. This was able to produce a very fine powder with almost no loss. This is the way to go.
I also tried a Ped-Egg which produced powder a little more coarse then the nutmeg grater.
However, if you want to produce a very fine powder I would go for a grater with the finest holes you can find.
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For all of those seeking to bypass the polymer gelatin, all you have to do is make a bowl of epson salt and warmish-hot purified water mixture,(the cosistantcy of ketchup) soak all the pills in epsom salt mixture for about 5 mins. Epsom salt will draw out all of the gelatin polymer from the inside of the pill and what you will be left with is pure Oxycontin.
Swim just had his prescription
of 90 80's filled on Monday and me and him soaked them all at once.(Use acetone to strip off the color coating on the pill). After I dried them in the oven on 250 for about 15 minutes(keeping a eye on them),at the end cool them down in the freezer for about 10 mins. He's been sniffing them since. Just like the old formula, maybe a bit of a pain but diffinetely well worth it.
problem solved, enjoy.
Has anyone else had success with this method?
I tied soaking an OP pill in a thick mix of Epsom salts and water for 15 minutes and the pill remained hard as a rock. It doesn't look like any absorption of the Epsom salts solution occurred at all. In my opinion, perhaps what helped your experiment was baking the pill at 250 degrees in the oven. It seems to me like the Epsom salts contributed nothing to your protocol. Have you tried just baking a pill at 250 degrees?
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anotherone
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Nutmeg grinder....seems like it would be cheap and grind the pill up for you...
I found your posting. I've tried the Dremel, Ped Egg and various files and the best way for producing a fine powder is the nutmeg grater. Works fantastically.
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Swim just had his prescription
of 90 80's filled on Monday and me and him soaked them all at once.(Use acetone to strip off the color coating on the pill). After I dried them in the oven on 250 for about 15 minutes(keeping a eye on them),at the end cool them down in the freezer for about 10 mins. He's been sniffing them since. Just like the old formula, maybe a bit of a pain but diffinetely well worth it.
problem solved, enjoy.
I've tried your method. After soaking the OP in Epsom salts for 15 minutes and up to 2 hours, your method does not work. The pills absorb none of the Epsom salts and water and remain as hard as a rock.
anotherone
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This method does not work. I've tried it.
i.am.mookie
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I see a few things coming out of this new oxy formula.
1. There will be a huge spike in herion addiction
2. There will be a huge spike in roxi 30 sales
3. There will be a huge spike in suboxone sales and treatment entrys.
Ha ha
1. There will be a huge spike in herion addiction
2. There will be a huge spike in roxi 30 sales
3. There will be a huge spike in suboxone sales and treatment entrys.
Ha ha
I really hate these fucking things..Such a pain in the ass..I just wanna be able to chew them up in five seconds like I have been doing for years and go about my day..Not spend twenty fucking minutes everyday getting them ready and then not even get the same effect..Fuck Purdue and fuck scientists lol..Grrr aggravated. /rantoff
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Swim just had his prescription
of 90 80's filled on Monday and me and him soaked them all at once.(Use acetone to strip off the color coating on the pill). After I dried them in the oven on 250 for about 15 minutes(keeping a eye on them),at the end cool them down in the freezer for about 10 mins. He's been sniffing them since. Just like the old formula, maybe a bit of a pain but diffinetely well worth it.
problem solved, enjoy.
I continued to test this method allowing the pills to soak 5 minutes, 1 hour, 5 hours and 24 hours. Per these instructions the pills were then placed in an oven for 15 minutes at 250 degrees. This technique with Epsom salts does not work. The Epsom solution fails to soak completely into the pill. Examination of the pill after soaking reveals evidence of polymer running extensively through the pills proving this methods failure.
MgmtBlue
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A bit off topic..
Little off topic, but I'm "connected" to the pharma industry and the buzz over at Purdue is that pain patients are dropping OC like crazy because of this new formulation. Not even talking about people who abuse them. People are complaining of stomach pain, nausea, vomiting, and high blood pressure along with reduced efficacy.
Wonder how this will pan out..
Little off topic, but I'm "connected" to the pharma industry and the buzz over at Purdue is that pain patients are dropping OC like crazy because of this new formulation. Not even talking about people who abuse them. People are complaining of stomach pain, nausea, vomiting, and high blood pressure along with reduced efficacy.
Wonder how this will pan out..
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Hey all, I don't really do opiates much anymore, but I hope you guys figure out a way to beat this shit. Regardless of how much I'm over all the damage OC was doing to my life, I think this new formulation is bullshit and only going to cause more people to hurt themselves trying to get the rush. Just everyone be safe and don't go injecting shit that you don't know for sure is a totally injectible solution. Experimenting breaking the time release and drinking something is one thing. Putting what you think might be an injectible form into your veins is another (not that I think anyone is going to actually do that).
Also, my opinion on the whole microwaving and citric acid stuff is that it's not going to completely do the trick. It might release some of the oxy, but I don't think they would have designed the things this way if it were that easy. It has to be some sort of more complicated chemical extraction. If I have some time I'll research the polymer and get back to ya (now that I have some Ochem under my belt). Good luck and best wishes!
Also, my opinion on the whole microwaving and citric acid stuff is that it's not going to completely do the trick. It might release some of the oxy, but I don't think they would have designed the things this way if it were that easy. It has to be some sort of more complicated chemical extraction. If I have some time I'll research the polymer and get back to ya (now that I have some Ochem under my belt). Good luck and best wishes!
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