Opioids Defeating Opana TSF

[Mmurf666]

So recently all of "my guys" have only been able to get the new formula of Opana, called TSF. Well seeing that they are so cheap, I decided to get a few so I can experiment a little. I have always enjoyed sniffing the OG Pannas but without some work, u can't do that with these new ones. Luckily it's not that hard, and this is my method which has worked many times.

Tools needed:
1. Clean water bottle.
2. Needle nose pliers.
3. A dremmel grinder with A STONE BIT (sander bit will leave debres).
4. Sharp blade.

Now on with the fun part.

1. Cut the top off your water bottle using your blade so it's now a cylinder container.
2. Using your blade cut a small hole about the size of a quarter in the side of your new container, let's say about half an inch from the base.
3. Grab onto your pill with a solid grip using your needle nose pliers, trying to hold only as little of the pill as possible.
4. Turn your dremmel on high and enter thru the top of your bottle and start grinding away.

Once most of the pill has been ground, you should be left with powder contained in your bottle.

Empty contents, line it up and it's ready for sniffing.

Remove any large chunks as pleased.

I like to put the bigger flakes and chunks on foil and smoke them. Be aware thAt it will combust if you leave it on heat for too long.

Thank you for reading, I hope it works for you just like it did for me.

Practice makes perfect and if anyone has anything to add, please post responses to the process can be refined. Happy nodding!

 

[pbuilder]

This doesn't defeat anything and just leaves you with a large amount of gel clogging your nose.

 

[DooMMooD]

This doesn't defeat anything and just leaves you with a large amount of gel clogging your nose.

Word up. This in no way shape or form releases the oxymorphone from its individual molecular cages, so to speak. You're basically just clogging your nose up for no reason lol...

 

[Mmurf666]

Sorry guys, I guess using the word "defeating" wasn't the correct word to have used, but as far as im aware, they just made them "uncrushable". There have always been poly in the original ER tabs and it slightly gelled up my nose then too, thats why people could only bang the IR formula. I dont get much gelling using this method, but maybe thats because I stick the straw so far up my nose.

Any who, if you are worried about the poly there is a way around that too. With the new formula of oc80's - op80's - there was a method created by Rurik (search google), where he used the dremmel, then microwaved the powder at 50% power until the powder turns a golden color (about 5 min). What happens is the poly breaks down (poly melts/burns at a lower temp then the codeine, not sure about morphine), and no longer works like it should, ie - no gelling up, but it is still within the powder. I havent found the need to do that with these Opana TSF's because when the flakes of powder are so small, my sinuses are able to absorb the oxymorphine.

Anywho, this is just a "back yard mechanic's" way of getting what you want out of a drug that was once expensive ($1 per mg here), and is now dirt cheap. I was at work and just figured i would let you guys know about what has been working quite well for me. Try it, or dont, no skin off my back. I was just trying to help.

Also another idea I had was to use this method, but then parachute it, because I was reading horror stories of people just popping them whole, and seeing a full pill still in their waste.

Yet again, just trying to help anyone that might want it. Dont knock it until you try it. Smokes well too, off foil.

P.S. - Have either of you (pbuilder, DooMMooD) ever snorted the original Opana ER 40mg formula? Back then I was snorting all the binders and poly anyways, now is no diff.

P.S.S. - If ANYONE have happen to read the FDA release of what they actually changed to make the new TSF's, please inform me, i would like to know (ie more poly?).

P.S.S.S. - Im actually nodding quite hard from this method as im typing, and let me say..... :D

 

[DooMMooD]

I have (sadly) done hundreds, if not THOUSANDS, of the original opanas. Mostly 40s.

I've tried a new method on these new ones, with no such luck as you've had....I've also tried many a similar thing on dozens and dozens of OP oxys, also to no avail....so i personally am not going to waste another minute of my time on this shit. I'm glad you're getting high....but I find that crazy that a dremmel was able to defeat the crazy time release they spent months and years devising, which is so nifty that it is a crazy polymer that as i said, individually cages each oxymorphone molecule.

I mean they spent years perfecting these new ones (OPs and TSF) but neglected to find out what would happen if they broke them up? Think for a minute lol...if they wanted em that easy to do why even redo them?

And the official opana page (here on BL OR their website if thats what you thought i meant, heh) has a giant list of all the ingredients (active/inactive) compared to the old ones. Its not just "more poly", its a new polymer that they INVENTED for these purposes. They didnt just make them uncrushable, they created a polymer that individually encapsulates oxymorphone molecules.

 

[Mmurf666]

first of all, which method did you try DooMMod? id like to hear about it. with the 40TSF's

oh, when i said FDA report, i meant press release or whatever. patent description which is public. Im sorry to hear you have had no luck with the OPs. Im not trying to argue, or convince you, im just handing out my 2 cents that maybe someone might be able to find months from now.

Only thing i can think of, DooMMood, would be that they dont "see" someone sitting there using a dremmel to break their product down. Im sure it crossed a mind or 2 during development, but we, WE meaning anyone who abuses these various products, aren't apart of their main concerns (of course part). Manufacturers i mean. They are purely just another business, just their guidelines are usually a lot stricter then others. Its about money.
They know a chemist coud re-engineer their product, but sometimes stuff happens.
Why would they make a product that they know a hoseclamp would break it down, and kids start dying. They didnt know these products would end up becoming a common fad among the general public.

Just like with what happened to OC, their patent ran up, and instead of just renewing, the government stepped in and said "hey look at these stats, you need to fix something", so they did.

Who knows, maybe the friction from the 13,000rpm stone did something with the poly. I dont know, i just know it seems to work.

If anyone has anything they could add to help me with refining this process, i would greatly appreciate it. Just info, not just ideas, are always welcome.

Thanks, hope it works for you, yeah, you in the back there

 

[DooMMooD]

I totally agree its all about profit. I think their reason for doing so is exactly what you describe.

What I dont agree with is that they failed. I believe some really hardcore people out of a desire to do good helped this design get through. That is, they really thought making the drug hard to abuse would be good for people.

Now, do I think they can be beat? Yes, absolutely. But I dont believe they made it so easy where simply grinding it up is the answer.

I also personally after snorting the OPs really did not exactly enjoy it....lol. But If it gets you high by all means, keep going. I obviously cannot argue with your results so if youre not w/d when you would have somethings def going right.

Power to ya man, seriously. If I could abuse these new opanas my life would be set: theyre dirt cheap and I could buy SO MANY that it would be insane. Sadly I just stay on my suboxone program b/c opanas are gone in my view until either generics of the olds come out or some crazy revolutionary method drops that extracts the drugs somehow.

Sadly none of these methods ever got me high from the OPs and the one or two ways i tried with a new opana did not exactly bode well for me (absolutely did not get high).

 

[docmoon]

are you talking about the new "waxy concave" op's?

 

[tricomb]

Opana Bioconcave formulation = TSF = Tamper Resistant Formula

 

[muvolution]

I'm closing this. There is no harm reduction value in this thread. What you are attempting is extremely dangerous, and just because "it works for you" does not mean others should endanger themselves by trying it.
Smoking pills? This is like smoking plastic, jesus christ. Closed.