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death by mushrooms

It could have been Cyanescens! there's a tread somewhere on this forum about how Cyanescens give some people paralyses!
i have personal experiences with this happening to me, and a few other friend too. so he could have stoped breathing.
 
Third hand information FROM HIS MOM. Do you really think that a mom that has just lost her youngest child is going to tell some bullshit lies that her son died from an OD on shrooms? If it wasnt true why would she be telling me that? So that it would make him look like a druggy? I dont think so. She was telling me because i asked and im very close with their family.

I didn't say anyone was lying and I'm sorry for your loss. But information from a coroner, then to a very excited mother that just lost her child, then to you, and then to us, is third hand information. You haven't told us what the cause of death is, what toxic chemicals were involved, or what type shrooms they were. There are many types of "shrooms", some which are relatively safe and some which are not. Without more specific information, there is very little we can learn from this.
 
well i learned something. i had heard of shrooms paralysus but i didnt know it was it common with cyanescens. now i can rest easier cause mine are a different strain.
 
Sorry to hear about your friend's death. I hope his parents and family are managing to get through all this (I nearly died at age 13, and the incident still haunts my parents)

I've read studies in which the mixed alkaloid extract of various psilocybin containing fungi are much much more toxic to younger animals than to adults. As your friend was only 13 years old, it may be that his biochemistry behaved in a much different way to that of an adult, and that's why what shouldn't have been anywehere near a toxic dose for an adult, was for someone his age, even after taking body weight into account.

I think the study also hinted at there being a vague correlation between the amount of baeocystin in a dose, and its lethal effects on young animals (although why 4-phosphoryloxy-N-methyltryptamine should be so much more toxic than the N,N-dimethyl analogue is beyond me)
 
^^^
I believe they do, at least in some areas. Obviously the kids who ate those lawn shrooms and tripped ate some active ones.
 
A suicidal teenager was most likely on some type of anti-depressant. Perhaps serotonin syndrome?
 
Serotonin syndrome is quite unpleasant, but rarely fatal. Moreover, a dose of mushrooms would be unlikely to result in seratonin syndrome, regardless of the size of the dose. I'm not saying its impossible. Just highly unlikely.

The most likely explanation is an allergic reaction to one of the other chemicals in the mushroom. Anaphylactic shock seems the only real possibility to me, in light of the fact that I have taken half an ounce of shrooms all at once on many occasions. Dried cubensas each time.

Surprisingly, my hardest trip (which is to say, the one that seemed the most physically dangerous and frightening) was on only five grams, dried, eaten all at once. This is actually less than my usual standard dose, which is a quarter ounce.

I have also discovered that even at fifteen grams, the duration of the trip is still rarely over eight hours. I've managed to get over twelve hours, but I had to repeat dose several times and the intensity of the trip was diminished significantly as the physical discomfort factor rose.

I want to stress that I feel a certain horrific vacuum in my spirit right now, reading about this event. For some reason it hits me real close to where my heart is, and I can't quite pin down why. I think it is connected to whatever caused me to become frightened of LSD and stop taking it, even though I have taken 1500 mics at once and tripped for over thirty hours and still went back for more over the next few years. I found the LSD threshold dose for me to be about 700 -- 800 mics. Below that, LSD is more or less a mental slide show, and while certainly entertaining, the full scope of what LSD has to offer is lost on me. Of course, everyone is different, so these doses may have dramatically different impacts on some of you.

However, death seems a long shot unless by an allergic reaction resulting in respiratory failure.

There is one other possibility. If the child had a pre-existing kidney condition that was undetected, certain adulterants and chemicals commonly found in mushrooms could cause renal failure.

Regardless of the actual pathology, the event is tragic in every sense of the word, and the family and friends have my most heartfelt condolences.

To the individual that knew the child personally:

A special prayer for you, that you may find peace and closure. Also, a prayer that you be given words with which to impart comfort to his mother, for the unexpected loss of a child is the most tragic and unfair scenarios. Where does one find the strength to go on from there? I believe strongly that we are watched by angels, and that an angel of peace will come to her aid for the asking, should the request be made in a spirit of humility and honesty.

Perhaps the boy's spirit was needed elsewhere to save another? Is it possible that this tragedy is in fact a spiritual transplanting that saved the soul of another? What a blessing that would be! To discover that what once seemed senseless was by design of a divine nature...and what reward awaits the grieving mother? Truly I pray that she find a joy that surpasses all understanding, a joy that comes from the Holy Spirit and is dealt personally to those in such need.

My faith is weak, my heart is cluttered, but I will pray for her anyway, because I believe that it is by grace our prayers are heard, and not by judgement.

I know this first hand, because I live and breathe by the miracle of grace that granted life from a prayer.

Peace to you who have been wounded by this, peace from the Almighty, from whom all good things come.
 
(you both went to buy shrooms from the same dealer, tripped the same night, but you had no clue he was suicidal? – there are segments of this persons life you aren’t aware of)

Ya, we did buy the shrooms from the same dealer, but i never said we went together. I just said we bought them from the same dealer on the same night and that we both tripped that night. But we were NOT together.

Also, i know for a fact he was not on any anti-depressants. He was always a fun, loving kid and he never showed any signs that he would do something like this.
 
maybe ingesting this large amount did not directly cause his death.. maybe it wasnt as overdose.. it could have been that his system was sensitive to this large amount and he had a seizure or something.. which is possible.. i doubt this amout directly caused his demise.. my thoughts go out to him however.
 
i think this story is bogus, or you are getting the facts completely twisted. I've been shrooming far too long to believe this. I myself have consumed more than this dose and I came out just fine. This story doesn't add up. What else was the kid taking (meds, MAOI, etc)? and what exactly did the report say? dont go off what parents say, they are going to lie to you to get you to stay away from drugs. If this story IS true, then the kid died from eating the wrong mushrooms, end of story. Nobody dies from eating Cubensis unless the mushrooms themseleves are contaminated. it just doesnt happen.
 
^ maybe the mushrooms weren't cubensis you know there are other psilocybin strains that get you high....like azurescens(sp?)
 
I also believe this is bullshit. Go over to the shroomery trip reports. There are plenty of reports of people eating more than an ounce dried and coming out of it fine. This is bogus
 
So if you didn’t go together and didn’t trip together, how do you know for sure who he went to, what he actually purchased and what he ingested? Seems like speculation at best.

Also, i know for a fact he was not on any anti-depressants.

How do you know this to be fact?
IMO, the only way to know for 100% sure is if you are a parent, sibling, his doctor, or have exclusive access to his complete medical records. Otherwise you are basing your “facts” on what someone has told you and there is no way to determine if you were told the complete truth.

If you don’t mind me asking, how old are you? (if you do mind, how about an approximate age group) I think this information would help shed some light on the subject and the validity of your statements.
 
Well, if the link to your profile is correct your 14. IMO, this places all your statements of “fact” into suspicion seeing as you definitely have information second hand.
 
I find it nigh impossible to believe the mushrooms could have possibly been the sole cause of death, I have occasionally taken far higher doses.

My usual dosage is 30 grams dry, and I have never experienced any bad reactions. My highest dosage was 120 grams almost dried P.mexicana, if the dose the kid unfortunately took was possibly lethal, 120g would have killed me many times over.

As you can tell, I'm still here :) although of course, individual idiosyncrasies still apply greatly.
 
TAPPER said:
So if you didn’t go together and didn’t trip together, how do you know for sure who he went to, what he actually purchased and what he ingested? Seems like speculation at best.



How do you know this to be fact?
IMO, the only way to know for 100% sure is if you are a parent, sibling, his doctor, or have exclusive access to his complete medical records. Otherwise you are basing your “facts” on what someone has told you and there is no way to determine if you were told the complete truth.

If you don’t mind me asking, how old are you? (if you do mind, how about an approximate age group) I think this information would help shed some light on the subject and the validity of your statements.

Your seriously starting to piss me off.

Ok, the reason i know who sold him the shit is he called me and asked me who i bought mine from, so i gave him the guys number. That is the only person he could have got them from, plus the dealer told me how much he bought because after i found out that he died i called him up and asked how many he bought.

I would have known if he took anti-deppresants, ive known him since i was wee-tall. Im very close with his family. Trust me, i would have known if he was taking them. The only thing he took was Adderall for ADD.

And ya i am 14, so what? Just cuz im 14 does that mean i dont know shit about anything? No, and if you are gonna try n sit here and tell ME shit about MY friend, FUCK OFF.

Im guessing you really dont know how hard it is? Plus the fact that i supplied him with the dealer, im partly responsible.
 
Limpet Chicken said:
I find it nigh impossible to believe the mushrooms could have possibly been the sole cause of death, I have occasionally taken far higher doses.

My usual dosage is 30 grams dry, and I have never experienced any bad reactions. My highest dosage was 120 grams almost dried P.mexicana, if the dose the kid unfortunately took was possibly lethal, 120g would have killed me many times over.

As you can tell, I'm still here :) although of course, individual idiosyncrasies still apply greatly.

30 grams? 120 grams? how can you stomach so many? what kind of trip do you get off that and do you really need that much?
 
If you are so close to the kid's family, did you tell his mom that you gave him the dealer's number then?

22 grams fresh or dried?

Either way, your friend was too young to be messing around with drugs. Alcohol is a far more easier drug on the mind, and there is a reason you have to be 21 to drink it. Injesting drugs comes with great repsponsibilities. If your friend ate 22 grams dry, then he was too uneducated to be using them.
 
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