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dealing with judgemental comments from close friends

Talk about how devastating the effects on alcohol use can be, how it ruins families, gets people into fights, causes drama, car crashes, etc... talk about how its similar to abusing adderral or ritilin in some respects, and how it is similar to SSRIs. I find that if you lay it out intelligently, people get it.

But like someone up there ^ said, some people can/will never be convinced. Im dealing with this problem now too.

And throwing out a mint? Horrifying.
 
Ecsatsy Rising hosted by Peter Jennings is an unbiased, truthful look at MDMA that has helped open many of my friends and families minds, it's also entertaining so you'll likely get them to watch the whole thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0GG4U_d28k&feature=fvst

Unfortunately, we live in a world that puts a label or stigma on so many things- if you tell your friends something new about you (I'm gay, I'm muslim, I like lsd, I like weed, I'm bi) there's often a judgement placed on it. Though it's been proven false data for a decade, many people still site improper MDMA research that claimed that it caused holes in your brain and Parkinson's disease.

Often times, when I meet someone else in daily life (or even at a club/rave) who does MDMA they're a successful happy person who doesn't come across as a "druggy", my own dad has been experimenting with drugs all his life (he rolled with us just last year) and he's extremely successful in his field of work, with no cognitive issues.

In terms of dealing with people, you have to formulate your response so you don't seem defensive- explain to them if they are truly concerned you'd really appreciate them watching the Ecstasy Rising special because it explains a lot that you can't. Explain to them that MDMA is not the sort of thing that you do daily- it's a special occasion experience that you indulge in once a month (or however often you wish to say). Invite them to check our erowid.org as well, and explain that MDMA is not disrupting your life, but rather an occasional enjoyable experience you indulge in. You can also find lots of information on it's therapeutic use, there was an article in Oprah's magazine on it (with a photo of the author looking very clean and professional :))http://www.oprah.com/health/MDMA-Therapy-Jessica-Winters-Report-Ecstasy-and-PTSD

I share your pain with this issue, as when MDMA was new to me, I wanted to share how much I had benefitted personally from it with everyone. Trying MDMA was one of the best decisions I made in my life, however, to tell friends who haven't experienced it that- you just sound like a crazy person in love with drugs from their view. Do your best to keep your composure and refer them to some "official" reports like the ones I gave you, as in these situations, you really need an outside voice to explain your case.
 
my friend actually showed me Ecstasy rising which got me to try it and not feel so bad about it in college. I had an amazing time with it, and actually we were having so much fun that we got our straight edge friend to try it as well, who also, had a great time :)

The interesting part is the girl that gives me the most shit and talks about it behind my back to our friends is the same one who got the deepest into coke, has rolled, taken shrooms, drinks, and smokes weed everyday. She's just really, really hard on herself (heard her numerous times say things like "I drank on tuesday, i drink too much, so im not gonna let myself go out this weekend")

"do what you feel the more absurd the better"

I actually had an interesting conversation with my mother about this, (I'm almost a carbon copy of her, she was a "hippie" back in the day who experimented with LSD and is big into throwing parties (even post 50s) and whatnot). She actually started her own healthcare organization and sold it (and is quite successful)

she said "as long as you do the things you do because you are excited about doing them (and only when you really want to have an experience, not because you feel like having a drug experience is the only time you have fun), and know that you aren't abusing whatever substance you are taking, who the fuck cares?"
 
First Bad Comedown: This isn't the first time I read such a detailed report on MDMA from you... you know your shit, man! I wish I had a friend like you to roll with when I do... :)

As far as the thread is concerned, I would also recommend showing Ecstacy Rising to your friends. It is, in fact, that documentary that convinced me it was ok to try. I always told myself I would never do any chems (LSD, Meth, Coke, E) and only stick with shrooms, salvia and weed and all those drugs until I saw that documentary and it opened my eyes to the world of drugs. Some people just don't get it. I spent 19 years of my life convinced ecstacy was shit and would turn your brain into poo. Oh how wrong I was, but I understand how others, who are completely unaware of the beauty that MDMA actually is, would judge it and spit at it.

If you educate them, they might understand a little better... maybe.
 
sm7125 said:
You can't change other people, you can only change yourself.
I hope you understand that when they say this stuff IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU... Meaning, what they are saying is way more of a statement about who they are, rather than who you are. They are saying what they're saying not as a statement about you, but as a statement about themselves. Jealousy, envy that you can do drugs AND be as successful as you are.

Don't try to get them to change. Just understand that when they talk shit... It's about THEM, not you. If you get this, it changes the game, you don't have to take it personally and can easily let it go.
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Exactly this FTW!
 
pf echoes said:
Tell them to read Erowid before they say anything about drugs, or you give them a huge drug lecture like it came right out of the fucking book. Thats what I do, often times it surprises them and they realize that in fact they don't know shit. Or they think your some weirdo that is obsessed about drugs, but either way they are missing out :p.
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This

I have given countless lectures to the uneducated. Some take it to heart, others are stubborn and content with their ignorance.. Probably because everything I tell them is contrary to what they've been hearing their entire lives from cops, parents, tv, teachers, etc. They just refuse enlightenment because they believe they have all the answers and that drugs are bad. :p
 
some ppl will never agree with drug use due to the fact that its illegal. you need to realize which friends feel strongly about not breaking the law and dont talk about it in front of them. if you bring it up, make sure the ppl you're around are open minded and will accept how you feel and what you do
 
@first bad comedown

Thank you very much for that. I just copied and pasted that post into a word document for future reference haha.
 
rollnpeace said:
some ppl will never agree with drug use due to the fact that its illegal. you need to realize which friends feel strongly about not breaking the law and dont talk about it in front of them. if you bring it up, make sure the ppl you're around are open minded and will accept how you feel and what you do
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the problem is, none of them care about legality, they all smoke weed every day, we get wasted together, goto dubstep/EDM shows, and they all love shrooms... lol
 
just wink at them and smile while youre blowing a giant line of mdma... who cares who knows what about whatever, you know youre gonna be in an amazing place in less then five minutes, and you also know that these people who have a problem with you are stupid and misinformed.
 
waketheeffup said:
I wonder why people accept shrooms more than MDMA or LSD

just because its natural doesn't mean its more or less toxic :)
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Actually, shrooms are altogether nontoxic, which means they're pretty much strictly less toxic than MDMA. LSD is nontoxic as well.
 
Dude you sound just like me when I first started getting into stuffs you will be fine.
 
pf echoes said:
Tell them to read Erowid before they say anything about drugs, or you give them a huge drug lecture like it came right out of the fucking book. Thats what I do, often times it surprises them and they realize that in fact they don't know shit. Or they think your some weirdo that is obsessed about drugs, but either way they are missing out :p.
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KUDOS! erowid is where i get most of my info on stuff like this. granted it doesn't have every bit of info that i need... but it is very informative! :)
 
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