DEA Busts kids opperating DMT 'lab' in Buffalo

WhiteLinesNcoffee said:
OK First off. NO. just no. Not all drug dealers shoot people and kill cops. That idea is fuking retarded. You are thinking of organized crime syndicates. These 3 guys were most likely not shooting people and cutting up drugs with harmful chemicals. DMT extraction is easy. and they weren't that large scale.
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Exactly, these were just college kids trying to spread some enlightenment. I think the 400/g thing is a load of shit, though I never got close to them personally, but from the same article claiming 100 doses per/g, one can only assume further exaderation.. Beyond distribution though I HIGHLY doubt anything truly illegal happened, Why the fuck would it??:\
 
dankoni said:
Trust me, I do blame the govt for the current situation. However, something as sacred and powerful as DMT should never be bought or sold IMO.
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Where the hell would it come from then?
 
Cops need to be spending a lot more time and resources on meth labs than some kids making DMT. They need to prioritize...
 
dankoni said:
Trust me, I do blame the govt for the current situation. However, something as sacred and powerful as DMT should never be bought or sold IMO. The question of profit shouldn't even be on the table.

If the govt were to outlaw prayer tomorrow, that would be wrong... but it wouldn't make it any less wrong for people to profit off of what is a human being's God given right.
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Yeah, that'd work if the kids were independently wealthy. Back in the real world mimosa and solvents cost money. I'm all for buying at cost though :).
 
Thank you for your sympathy Dragynfyr. To vortex, we are not criminals, we just enjoy a little psychadelia... We never sold this drug to anybody, the ONLY person we ever got it for, just so happened to be working with the DEA to save his own ass...he ratted out a childhood friend! That is the onlt criminal in this case, the 'witness.' It was obtained for 150 a gram, not 400!! and if you want an actual it to go somewhere, you need to take about .2, not .01! That criminal was actually the one profiting from this, because the DEA gave his 1000 dollars to buy this, but that is not what we received. The DEA did the most horrendous job investigating this case. The claimed the Nicholas Riordan was living at the same residence as me (or my dad actually) cause I wasn't even living at that house!!! They kicked the shit out of my dad and handcuffed my sister from sleep, and I wasn't even there!! You giuys are right, they busted a group of friends personal stash, when there are dozens of crack and meth dealers in that area... It was no lab at all, it was a nice, well kept home inhabited by a very nice person, and later, his broter and is wife and kids. It was a family home and the drug wasnt even being manufactured anymore... The 'witness' wanted more (10 grams) but they weren't going to make it anymore because of the family... I have never been a violent or even a mean person, most everyone I run into I get along with. For those of you scrutinizing us for tis, screw you! For those of you who sympathize, thank you very much...
 
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Since you seem like a fairly nice and "together" person, I'd like to ask what you learned from this experience. Sooo....? Anything worth talking about?

GreatBritton said:
and if you want an actual it to go somewhere, you need to take about .2, not .01!
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Are you saying you need to smoke 200mg of that DMT to break through? If so, you're either incredibly "hard headed," or that is far from pure DMT. Either way... doesn't matter. I'm just incredibly curious to hear what you learned from the whole ordeal!
 
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GreatBritton said:
Thank you for your sympathy Dragynfyr. To vortex, we are not criminals, we just enjoy a little psychadelia... We never sold this drug to anybody, the ONLY person we ever got it for, just so happened to be working with the DEA to save his own ass...he ratted out a childhood friend! That is the onlt criminal in this case, the 'witness.' It was obtained for 150 a gram, not 400!! and if you want an actual it to go somewhere, you need to take about .2, not .01! That criminal was actually the one profiting from this, because the DEA gave his 1000 dollars to buy this, but that is not what we received. The DEA did the most horrendous job investigating this case. The claimed the Nicholas Riordan was living at the same residence as me (or my dad actually) cause I wasn't even living at that house!!! They kicked the shit out of my dad and handcuffed my sister from sleep, and I wasn't even there!! You giuys are right, they busted a group of friends personal stash, when there are dozens of crack and meth dealers in that area... It was no lab at all, it was a nice, well kept home inhabited by a very nice person, and later, his broter and is wife and kids. It was a family home and the drug wasnt even being manufactured anymore... The 'witness' wanted more (10 grams) but they weren't going to make it anymore because of the family... I have never been a violent or even a mean person, most everyone I run into I get along with. For those of you scrutinizing us for tis, screw you! For those of you who sympathize, thank you very much... Our motivation never was profit, just to spread the word of DMT...
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Welcome to the club! =) Never thought one of you guys would show up here.

Thanks for posting and granting us an inside light on the issue. I'm sorry about your dad and sister getting involved, fuckin pigs... It's good to see that you are able to be writing to us here though, if you don't mind my asking, how is this looking legally now for everyone involved?

And I don't think anyone's stopping you from warning the local community about said witnesses name ;), there's plenty of members and even some mods in the WNY area that would probably benefit from avoiding the bastard at all costs. Swine should be black balled and cut off by all.


Good luck to you man
 
all the links to the articles are dead :\
I'm surprised I never heard about this...

Yeah this is bullshit. As someone who has lived in western NY my entire life, I can say that buffalo and nearby cities are flooded with crack and heroin (violent, organize crime)...and rapists and murders. I guess it's just easier to bust non-violent, college students/hippies than to go after the people causing massive harm to the city.

If you don't believe me just visit the northeast side of Rochester NY and see what crack/heroin has done to the community. It's so bad law enforcement has probably written it off as hopeless (I used to be able to hit up 5-6 heroin spots within a 3-4 block radius..not to mention the powder/crack/weed spots). To waste resources on this seems like a huge waste of tax payer money (as a matter of fact, probably some of my tax money went to this :!) Not to mention DMT is rare enough, now there is a good chance I'll never get my hands on DMT ever again :(

Good luck to you all and stay strong....and to greatbritton: you might want to delete that post, it's definately not something you'd want the DA to bring up. Unless you already got a deal or something.
 
dankoni said:
Trust me, I do blame the govt for the current situation. However, something as sacred and powerful as DMT should never be bought or sold IMO. The question of profit shouldn't even be on the table.

If the govt were to outlaw prayer tomorrow, that would be wrong... but it wouldn't make it any less wrong for people to profit off of what is a human being's God given right.
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Don't tell me you just compared smoking DMT, to some form of "praying".

This is what gives hippies that burn out reputation!

"This druggie hippy actually thinks smoking DMT is the modern day form of praying"
 
Hammilton said:
That's the wonderful thing about seeds and plants, they replicate easily enough to avoid needing to charge much or anything.
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People these days... always overlooking the obvious. Imagine growing something yourself! Capitalist culture has really blinded some people. It's as if they think MHRB is patented and produced in a factory somewhere.

ChemicalSmile said:
Don't tell me you just compared smoking DMT, to some form of "praying".

This is what gives hippies that burn out reputation!

"This druggie hippy actually thinks smoking DMT is the modern day form of praying"
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You must not be too familiar with logic. I compared them because, in my opinion, they should both be a God given right... not something you profit from. I could just as easily compare DMT to breathing or walking. Does that mean I am saying the experience is the same? No. Learn2Analogize
 
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As someone who also formerly faced a DMT manf. charge, I can totally relate to this case. What I'm struggling to relate to, however, is some of the sentiment encountered on this thread.

Now I was never into DMT for $. No matter how badly I could want to, I don't think I could sell it. For one thing, it has a significance to me which transcends that of regular consumer goods which are traded for money, which I could consider many illegal drugs to be. Second, I've been consistently disappointed in the people who I've introduced to the spice. Their attitudes, in retrospect, were nowhere near the level of maturity I hoped for and expected when it came to DMT. They used it as indiscriminately as any other drug. As such I am no longer interested in helping people acquire DMT in any way. IMO, the only people who "should" have access to DMT are those who've taken the dedication and measures necessary to procure it themselves, or possess the same level of dedication and interest necessary in the former pursuit; or but more simply: intelligent, responsible, and conscientious people. Otherwise, DMT inevitably flows into the current of stupidity that surrounds most drug use, which will only tarnish it's reputation and make it even more difficult to obtain.

Now what I don't get is the dealer-bashing from some of the earlier posts. I have no problem, personally, with drug dealers to the extent that I can get certain drugs only from them. I highly doubt anyone here is equipped to produce LSD, or cocaine, or oxycodone, etc; yet I suspect many of the people bashing drug dealers have some partiality to such drugs, which are available to them only at a cost from someone else. With the tremendous risk to personal freedom, asset forfeiture, family hardship, and the wrecked future that typically ensues from being busted, I would have to say that drugs are by and large under-priced! The collective losses to an individual resulting from getting busted are far greater than any gains which they made in the process. It's a free market; especially the black market, and you can only be opposed to dealers if you also oppose the demand enabling their existence and profiteering potential, which by the nature of this website and your participation in it, would likely make many of you dealer-critics hypocrites.
 
would it be plausable to make a list on bluelight (or a seperate databases) of known snitches / grasses in certain places...

...get there names out in the open...
 
Not on Bluelight, but hopefully someday there will be a site dedicated to that kind of thing.

The problem is that the judicial and law enforcement do their best to hide snitches' names from the public.

I hope any site based on exposing snitches requires good evidence, like scanned images of a discovery motion's results backed up by verification by a court clerk or lawyer or whatever.

He said she said bullshit doesn't cut it ... when you hear accusations without evidence, how do you know the accuser isn't the real snitch just trying to deflect blame and confuse the issue?
 
^^ Yea... that could easily turn into a mess. "I got ripped off by this dealer, so I'm gonna put him on the blacklist" type of thing.
 
Fuck da police, seriously they should be worrying about meth/crack and all that shit, and if they were never selling it, all they did was do it for personal use, its a shame. But yeah somebody needs to gat that fucking snitch.
 
space.age.sound said:
300 million americans were busted today, charged with the illlegal manufacture of DMT,
the high-tech laborities so small they were operated inside the heads of the manufacturers.

The DEA then proceded to bust and arrest themselves for similar charges, then the world imploded and Xenu claimed his rightful place as ruler of the universe.
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Hahahaha nothing to add. =D
 
I don't see a problem with a profit on DMT. There doing work to get the DMT and they should be rewarded if they pass it on. Its a drug like any other.
 
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