Yesterday around 4pm I hopefully took my last shot of heroin. Today has been a day of mild withdrawal symptoms and from experience I know the worst is yet to come. It is 3:30pm on Saturday and I am going to take my first try of bali kratom. I wanted to keep a somewhat of a journal of what I experience and what helps to hopefully be a help to someone else who may be going through the same thing. Since I am not able to post a blog yet I decided to post it here. I know I have searched and searched for info on withdrawal and medications or herbal things that can possibly help the withdrawal process. I have read tons of stuff regarding katrom and have found mixed results/reviews. So I have been an IV heroin user for about 3-4 months now but on percoset, norcos, morphine for almost 3.5 years. I am a 35 yo female. Lets see what works and what doesn't. I have taken about 10 percos today to try and offset the nonexistant heroin, trying to get off one drug at a time so I don't have severe withdrawal to where I cannot function at all. Because I am a mom, I have to be somewhat able to function. So like I said, I ordered some bali katrom and I going to take almost 1 tbsp of the powder form now and will update my status. Feel free to share any advice or personal experiences. I really just want to document my experience in hopes that one day it will help someone else going through the same situation. Here goes nothing!
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Heroin Day 1 of Withdrawal
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cj
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I wouldn't expect much from the kratom if you already ate 10 percs today. My advice is to taper with the percs if you have enough. Kratom is more of a last resort kind of thing.
I fully agree, you will likely be dissapointed by kratom...sounds like you are consuming a lot of opioids, can you give us a better idea of your tolerance and daily intake of pills/heroin?
You should use your remaining percocets wisely and try not to consume too much paracetamol... as you probably know. You haven't mentioned if you use benzodiazepines, but you should look at getting some temazepam or diazepam for the heroin w/d...since you are going cold turkey, it will really make a difference.
Just don't use the benzos for more than 5 days if you can...cause you don't want to end up getting addicted to those. I think the worst parts of your withdrawals will be over in 5 days...the rest is gonna be psychological, and I would try to slowly taper down from oxycodone to codeine to complete abstinence (although CT with benzos will make recovery faster).
Sounds like you are using these medications to treat some kind of physical pain, so you might want to step down to a weaker opioid like codeine or tramadol....or if not opioids, then CBD oral capsules or Dronabinol/Cessamet.
Also, I have been using St. Johns Wort extract recently and imo it helps potentiate codeine and has a nice antidepressant effect on it's own. Just make sure to be aware of the many drug interactions that herbs like SJW have.
Another great substance that may help you is Orphenadrine citrate/Diphenhydramine or some other kind of muscle relaxant (although avoid Soma and Miltown because they are pretty addictive).
I have been using the orphenadrine citrate 100 mg on and off, you'd be surprised how effective it as a myorelaxant...not to mention it doesn't leave you groggy or tired like diphenhydramine does. Also, ime it helps potentiate codeine and relieves some itching...although I would take 100 mg orphenadrine citrate alongside 25 mg diphenhydramine (for added antihistamine relief).
Hope you find something that works, you are likley gonna be going through some pretty bad w/d right if you just jump off the boat CT everything. But then again, you will save a lot of time if you just CT and take a bunch of non-opioids (or at least just some codeine, T3s). I prefer the low taper, but CT will get you where you wanna be faster.
pill_billy
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like the other two said... i wouldnt really use the kratom if youve already ate a handful of percs... your best bet is to try and use your remaining pills to taper down and go to the ER and get a clonodine patch... that shit helped me out soo much it was unreal.... but it also took me a 4-5 times of really trying to quit and 2 detox facilities and the threat of prison if i didnt stop, before i was able too.. hopefully it wont take tht much for you to kick it, but its the hardest thing ive ever done... also you may wana check out the dosage for kratom because i tried and i was taking 5-10 grams a day and it still wasnt doing much, so its far from a magic bullet... and i know alot of mothers who are in the same boat as you and as hard as it is, a detox facility may be your best option... but thats just my two cents
kayaker318
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I agree with the others on not using the kratom until you start tapering the percocet. But if you feel like you are having withdrawals now then I would go ahead and use the kratom. Be careful on the measurement. A tablespoon can be a lot to start with if you're not used to it, but it sounds like you have a high tolerance. I started with a teaspoon (level tsp-use real measuring spoons for better accuracy) and worked my way up to 2.5 teaspoons every 4 hours while in withdrawal. Your time and dosage may vary. Yes it tastes horrendous. I put mine in a smoothie or make tea (recipe can be found if you Google Kratom tea). I prefer the Bali during my withdrawal and it does help with pain. I have never used capsules.
It would be great if you had some gabapentin and clonidine which require a prescription. You need loperamide too which you can get at a drugstore OTC. Try to drink lots of water. It's great that you're getting off the drugs. Hang in there.
It would be great if you had some gabapentin and clonidine which require a prescription. You need loperamide too which you can get at a drugstore OTC. Try to drink lots of water. It's great that you're getting off the drugs. Hang in there.
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I had a dream that I was using between 45mg-90mg of oral oxymorphone for the last month
In between its been pure buprenorphine tablets up to 6mg in a 24 hr period
Tolerance was noticeable
I then made the switch back to kratom today a very fresh red vein strain
Early symptoms of the monster were apparent upon awakening
5g toss & wash was all it took for relief followed 5 hrs later by the same
Don't give up
Find the right vendor,strain and dose
Your not nodding just very much at peace
You have to keep the mindset that you want to stop putting poison in your body
It's a much better way of life
Good luck
In between its been pure buprenorphine tablets up to 6mg in a 24 hr period
Tolerance was noticeable
I then made the switch back to kratom today a very fresh red vein strain
Early symptoms of the monster were apparent upon awakening
5g toss & wash was all it took for relief followed 5 hrs later by the same
Don't give up
Find the right vendor,strain and dose
Your not nodding just very much at peace
You have to keep the mindset that you want to stop putting poison in your body
It's a much better way of life
Good luck