Datura

[narutokun]

I think your flowers are amazing...I love how they bloom at night, its really weird, and I think this gives a hint as to the nature of this plant, STRANGE.
I am going to be growing Datura and Brugmansia, but purely to witness this 'Night Blooming' and also because they are so beautiful, but I SURELY wont be tripping on them

But hey, cut this boy some slack ppl, he understands that acting in an irresponsible way is dangerous, he's clearly not retarded, and what 16 year old wants to learn from other peoples mistakes????

I know I didnt.

Hey, thanks! I also like the way they bloom at night, the scent spreads everywhere it's delicious. They are very sensitive to heat, during the day they seem dead but when the night comes they go back to their full pungent beauty.
The flowers are more "active" at night most likely because the plant may present zoophilia, more precisely chiropterophilia; as pollination method. I'm not sure about this, but I've seen bats flying around at night and in fact I was shitted on by one the other day at night (don't laugh please it was sort of disgusting).

 

[Lola'sCola]

Yeah, I think your flowers are just beautiful. Your green thumb is seriously impressive. I can't even keep a cactus alive, sadly. Want to come over and work in my garden? :D

(lol, that sounded dirtier than I meant it to...)

 

[narutokun]

^Haha! Even though I'm way more gay than straight, for you baby, sure I'd be having a great time working on your garden

 

[narutokun]

^lmao wtf! i thought it was a raindrop, next thing i look there's bat shit on my shoulder!
i meant zoophilia in botany terms, which means the pollination is mostly done by integrants of the animalia kingdom; since they have a nightly habit i assume that chiropterophilia/chiropterocoria would be the most obvious possibility for pollination. strangely enough though i've yet to see a single seed from these brugmansia species...

 

[datsunfan]

tree datura is bad shit ,i tried it many times when i was 16 ,17 about 10 -15 times eating it smoking it drinking it boiled down and drinking it squeezed through a old hand turned clothes wringa with a bowl underneath to catch the flowers juice, fucken yuk dry reach.apricot coloured trumpets always worked the best white ones never gave me any hallucinations .im 33 now and it fucks with your head for quite a while after-woods 3,4 weeks dry mouth,no balance walking,spasms in arms and legs blurred vision for 1,2 days unable to drink ,eat or smokefor a day or 2 talking to people who are not there,most anoying was thinking i had a cigerette that wasnt there falling out into the bed ,ripping the bed apart trying to find it,not being able to hold a normal sentance with people cause you foget what your talking about for 3 or 4 weeks ,very big pupils ,i wouldnt shoot it up there is other drugs for that. if you take it be careful

 

[narutokun]

^i guess you exagerated on the dosing? 8(

 

[datsunfan]

dosing?6 trumpets eaten whole ,give it a couple of hours to kick in .

 

[narutokun]

well fuck why'd you eat them instead of making a tea?

 

[datsunfan]

there is many ways of taking it,different methods ,different time of effects.

 

[narutokun]

i just don't like that taste to be honest the tea tastes awful as well lol

 

[Unlucky]

I have to agree that I tend to have a "reckless" behavior....

narutokun...ure 16? wow ! Im sorry to hear that, always makes me cringe inside when i hear a young life wasted and on the path to self-destruction. You sound like an intelligent young man who has the potential to focus his energy on more constructive and useful tasks.

I just hope you dont end up with a serious condition like mine someday due to drugs. I always used to think life was all fun and games , started taking all sorts of shit after being introduced to raves in 1991, went out almost every weekend for 11 years popping and dropping like there was no tommorrow until one day I had an overdose after 11 years of using which left me with a very serious neurological damage. For the past 7 years every single day I have been living an impaired and limited life due to all the symptoms asociated with my neurological damage including constant and severe overheating.

Its woken me up and made me realise your health should be your number 1 priority in life because without it theres only suffering and pain. When I look back I cant belive how reckless I used to be. My body has now ironically developed such a severe chemical sensitivity since the overdose that even a miniscule amount of any recreational drug now has the potential to be fatal for me so I can only look back and be amazed at how I could have ever taken anything. I have severe reactions to even the most basic of substances, like certain painkillers, foods and smells.

Life has an ironic way of teasing and biting back, just like the way longterm use of sleeping tablets can cause insomnia I went from being highly chemical depenedant and tolerant to extremly intolerant to the level of having allergic type reactions overnight since the overdose. Even death is a blessing sometimes in comparison to living with such sickness particualrly after a serious overdose that has the potential to leave you damaged.

I know my fate has yet to set an example to anyone and most people think that survivors of drug abuse may experience only mental changes but in my case this is untrue as I have suffered pure physical damage to my autonomic system and I can only hope at least this will open your eyes to the unfortunate possibilties that exist next time you decide to be so reckless.

 

[narutokun]

^I'm sorry to hear that. That seems like a really bad scenario, what did the people tell you in regards to how the neurological damage led to posterior malfunctioning of your system?
For me, fortunatly, I recovered from the times that I involuntarily ODed...
I'm also being more careful now.

 

[rashandreflex]

i was about to enter this thread to be a bit of a bitch and say 'how come you haven't considered shooting datura yet?' but it looks like i'm too late, heh.

really, though, look into other deleriant anticholinergics that people report as being similar to the datura experience but come as pills/powders if you really want to shoot a deleriant, which i think is a silly mode of ingestion...i highly doubt there's any 'rush' involved, and you obviously have plenty of the stuff, so there's no need to conserve.

if someone hasn't already said it, what happened to 16-year-olds popping diphenhydramine when they wanted a deleriant high? (mostly kidding....age IS only a number; i'm not much older)


lastly to reitirate what i am sure many people have said in this thread DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SHOOT PLANT MATERIAL. PLANTS HAVE FOREIGN PROTEINS IN THEM THAT COULD CAUSE A SEVERE REACTION....reminds me of that guy who wanted to condense poppy tea to shoot it...

 

[narutokun]

^yeah i've always been aware of that, i just did it once for "fun" if you know what i mean. haha but isn't my garden beautiful? lol
they're still flowering btw 8(

 

[Unlucky]

^what did the people tell you in regards to how the neurological damage led to posterior malfunctioning of your system?
.

I see several specialists including a neurologist who study people with my condition "Autonomic Dysfunction" and "Autonomic Neuropathy" due to chemical exposure such as mine. The condition effects my body physically because of the altered hypothalamic–pituitary function that was damaged due to the severe overheating I experienced during the overdose. Over longterm the condition also begins to alter the body and brain chemicals by creating low blood volume and causing mutations to the norepinephrine transporter (NET) gene by binding and blocking a section of this gene off as I have discovered in me after volunteering for tests.

It effects my body physically by impairing distrupting all functions associated with this area of the brain and the body's automatic system such as heart rate, blood pressure, digestion, breathing, sexual function, temperature, the body's natural chemicals associated with sleep and waking, arousal, and the overall biorhythm is out of whack. Areas of my body that overheat severely during the day and need constant cooling become extremly cold at night and need to be covered up and this is type of extreme imbalance is reflected through out every aspect of my autonomic function.

I believe I should have been dead the day of the overdose as I came borderline but if it wasnt for the ice bath and the emergency treatment to treat the severe hyperthermia I would not be here. But returning from so close to death has its consequences I guess. But let me clear up one thing, it wasnt just one overdose that triggered this condition to its full blown state but infact it was me tampering with my body and looking for loopholes trying to take miniscule amounts of recreational drugs after the overdoose and first signs of developing the condition. This is how stupid I was, even after developing an allergic type reaction to chemicals I was still trying to figure out ways to take them without my body rejecting them, so I woul take a smaller dose than usual of meth or pills then sit under the cold shower for hours trying to enjoy the experience and combat the hyperthermia. Thats when everything finally came crashing down and turned into a full blown condition. So our bodies are more resiliant then I would have expected but I prodded and taunted it until I broke myself. Ok someone give me a stupidity award!


Well Narutokun Im seriously glad you are being more careful now and thanks for listening to my misfortune!
Oh and I do like your garden they look very healthy

peace

 

[Luchia]

Some of my mates tried datura tea brewed from the flowers of the trees that grow on the sides of the road all over Perth, none of them had ever had it before, and one in particular didn't believe that it would work, so being a smart arse he skulled three cups of tea compared to everyone else's one. We all sat in the sun room at the front of the house while they waited for the effect to kick in (whatever that was going to be-none of us knew) After 20 minutes my mate who had skulled a lot had become very quiet, then all of a sudden he jumped up and threw himself through the big glass window at the front of the house! That was the last we saw of him for two days. He was found a couple of days later at his Nannas -still recovering.

 

[narutokun]

^dead?

 

[narutokun]

I see several specialists including a neurologist who study people with my condition "Autonomic Dysfunction" and "Autonomic Neuropathy" due to chemical exposure such as mine. The condition effects my body physically because of the altered hypothalamic–pituitary function that was damaged due to the severe overheating I experienced during the overdose. Over longterm the condition also begins to alter the body and brain chemicals by creating low blood volume and causing mutations to the norepinephrine transporter (NET) gene by binding and blocking a section of this gene off as I have discovered in me after volunteering for tests.

It effects my body physically by impairing distrupting all functions associated with this area of the brain and the body's automatic system such as heart rate, blood pressure, digestion, breathing, sexual function, temperature, the body's natural chemicals associated with sleep and waking, arousal, and the overall biorhythm is out of whack. Areas of my body that overheat severely during the day and need constant cooling become extremly cold at night and need to be covered up and this is type of extreme imbalance is reflected through out every aspect of my autonomic function.

I believe I should have been dead the day of the overdose as I came borderline but if it wasnt for the ice bath and the emergency treatment to treat the severe hyperthermia I would not be here. But returning from so close to death has its consequences I guess. But let me clear up one thing, it wasnt just one overdose that triggered this condition to its full blown state but infact it was me tampering with my body and looking for loopholes trying to take miniscule amounts of recreational drugs after the overdoose and first signs of developing the condition. This is how stupid I was, even after developing an allergic type reaction to chemicals I was still trying to figure out ways to take them without my body rejecting them, so I woul take a smaller dose than usual of meth or pills then sit under the cold shower for hours trying to enjoy the experience and combat the hyperthermia. Thats when everything finally came crashing down and turned into a full blown condition. So our bodies are more resiliant then I would have expected but I prodded and taunted it until I broke myself. Ok someone give me a stupidity award!


Well Narutokun Im seriously glad you are being more careful now and thanks for listening to my misfortune!
Oh and I do like your garden they look very healthy

peace

Ok I see it was due to the overheating mainly then, just one question, I hope it doesn't sound rude but would you rather be dead than living like you are living now?

 

[Unlucky]

I hope it doesn't sound rude but would you rather be dead than living like you are living now?

No your not being rude at all, your question was very thought provoking actually, It made me have a long and hard think about it, I guess i I realised even I'm not so sure of the answer.

Its more complicated then a yes or no because when you develop a condition like this it effects every aspect of your life including your social life. I have lost a lot of friends and my girlfriend after getting sick because I could not be there for anyone for many months to years I could not leave the house due to overheating and my symptoms.

So I guess once your starting to feel lonely and unhappy due to the condition there are times I wish I had died but having happier times in life makes you feel lucky to be alive. So im not sure how to give you a direct answer but that was a great question.

 

[narutokun]

^I really feel sorry about your whole condition, it's not pitty you know I'm sure you don't need it or want it. I just think it must be very difficult for you to live in that kind of situation, to think of it makes me kind of sad and as of lately I've been a little too much depressed I was thinking why so many bad things happens to people and stuff and then I read your post and I started crying even more ugh... I mean I don't know I'm totaly desperate of now even being able to use any kinds of drugs and still I'm not happy I just can't imagine how it would be like to be in a situation where one can't even get high to feel a little less sorrow.