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Dating an injection drug user.

shellybabe said:
This is a person with a legitimate question, if you wouldn't then why even answer. I never thought I would either, but it happens. You say you are not judging, but clearly you are making a firm statement, support and help or move on, isn't that what this place is for. Especially if you do not know what it feels like. I am sorry if I sound harsh it is not my intention. I just didn't understand your comment of you didnt have an answer or a thought to share....
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Hypersensitive much? Calm down. I answered because the question was asked - simple. They were not seeking support from others that are dating injecting drug users, they were asking for the opinions of everyone on here. I shared mine. Don't be so sensitive.

muvolution said:
Mel 22 -
actually, I think it would be really helpful if you went into it all, not just for myself, but for lots of people on bluelight. This website is about drug use. Alot of it is about hard drug use. Sure, the anal sex and hardcore porn-problems threads get alot of views and replies, but when there is something most people don't like to think about, no one says anything.
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Sorry to have been short muvolution, I will elaborate.

The risk of disease is very real. Now, many IV users are incredibly hygienic and practice safe injecting technique. I would not be able to determine this has been the case when I first meet a user. They may use safe methods now, but what about a month ago? Did they share a prick out of a moment of desperation and contract something nasty? Will it be passed onto me? Sure they could get a test, but it may not show everything.

So yes, the fear of contracting something nasty would be there. The fact that I would be suspicious of the person (without intending to, only because I happen to know all too well what the go is a lot of the time) in order to protect myself would not be a good foundation for a relationship.

Secondly, the fear of an OD in someone I love would tear me apart. I get some shocking anxiety at times (especially in relation to people's health), and the risk of an OD would play on my mind constantly. Every time they injected, my heart would race, I'd be watching them constantly to make sure they're okay. I wouldn't want to put myself through this regularly.

The worry about the usage/dependency increasing and the person deteriorating would be present and significant also. My future with the person would be hard to picture. Not that I want kids or marriage, but what if at a later date I do? Could they give up the dope if we feel like having children in the future? Financially, can they be trusted? It would be hard to commit financially (ie. purchasing a house together) with someone so at risk of deteriorating and losing track of their priorities. Not to stereotype IV users at all as of course, many are just as responsible as the clean folk amongst us, however, the fear would still be there at the back of my mind.

If their usage increased, I can see myself turning into one of those nagging, bitching women that I so despise. I would have their best intentions at heart, but the stress this would place upon both of us would be pretty shitty. It would be next to impossible for me to watch someone I love damage themselves. I would do everything in my power to stop it, and I would be fighting a painful, losing battle as countless partners and relatives before me have fought and lost.

Once the nagging started due to increased usage, the lies would also creep in and the hurt would be pretty difficult to deal with. When someone you love chooses a drug over your relationship, it isn't pleasant.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, relationships are hard enough as they are. I wouldn't want to add something as painful and hard to kick as IV drug use to the mix. IMO, it just decreases the odds of success so much, that I feel it would be unwise to start because I think I'd just be setting myself up for a world of hurt.

Last but not least: I'd also be scared of getting on the shit myself.
 
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muvolution said:
It's certainly not anything I'm in love with, ya know? It's not like her... she is definitely priority #1, besides myself.

ya'll have been in TDS too much lately, everyone being all sensitive an shit. Give it to me raw, yo.
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Question for you muvolution: if your girlfriend decides that she wants to try it, would you be okay with it?

See, I would never allow someone I love to get on anything so hard and potentially damaging. My love for them outweighs the love for the drug, or having someone to indulge with. So if you're okay with it, I would think that you may not have her best interests at heart.

If you aren't okay with it, I would see it as horribly hypocritical. You care for her too much to allow her to go down that path, but you are okay with doing it in front of her and putting her through that? You wouldn't want to see it, but too bad for her?

Sorry, I don't intend this to be an attack in any way, shape or form. Perhaps I am way off the mark too, and I missed something there. I am just really curious as to how you feel about the above question, and your reasoning behind your answer. How would you feel in her shoes?
 
My s/o can do whatever the fuck she wants.

not that its anybody's business, but personally, I only inject the ampules of medication my dr. gives me. I really don't use street drugs much, and never IV. I am incredibly safe, impeccable, and because it is for a medical reason, do not even think of re-using points.

But this thread is about IV drug use in general, so let's not limit the conversation to me. I was just using myself as an example.
 
No problems with it personally, provided, they are healthy (STI's and other health...actually, this applies regardless of them using injection drugs or not ;) ) and that they where safe about their injections. (in all regards, from not using shared rigs, to not over dosing, to not reusing rigs and causing injury or random infections from doing so)

I use injection sometimes... OH NOES! I must have the G.R.I.D.S. H.I.V type 1 or type 2 and the hep c or b because I use brand new needles from a sterile package and shoot ketamine or opioids from a sealed vial!!!11!!oneoneelevenone! Wait, I think spontaneous generation was disproved by Pasteur in like the 1700's?

Provided the person follows a similar level of caution, I see no problem with it from that angle. As for the social stigma, if anyone has shit to say about me or the girl I am with, they can expect me to reply "yeah fuck you too!" and promptly deliver the palm of my hand to their solar plexus.

So no, I have no issue with it myself.
 
i could never date a IV user... i would be to scared to get sick..and ive known at least 6 people who have been sick due to it.
 
Dating an IV user

I am currently in a relaitonship with a IV drug user which is something that I never thought I would do but you can't help how your feel about another person. My biggest concerns are for my health and his. I did make him get tested when we started dating but continue to use protection out of fear that there may have been something missed or that he has shared needles with another user since then (although he says he has not and for the most part I do believe him but better to be safe than sorry).
If he were to meet my family during a time he was using needles I would insist he wear a long sleeve shirt and it be for dinner. Luckly there is not pressure from my family to meet him.
I am concerned wheather there is a risk of non-sexually transmitted infections and it is something that is in the back of my mind quite often when we are together. The amount of sweat greatly concerns me and is not the most romantic thing either.
I have thought to ask him to stop but feel it would be hypocritical of me so I have not. I have however educated him on the risks involved even if he is not sharing. I am only hopeful this "binge" will not be ongoing as he seems to be on and off with it. Are questions I often ask myself. I have not shared with anyone in my life he was or currently is a IV drug user because of the social stigmas surrounding it.
The worst part is i do not let myslef think too far into the future with him because of the risk he is putting on his health. How soon until he overdoses or gets an infection that cannot be treated?
 
I was in a relationship with an IVDU. When we got together, he was clean. He relapsed. And again.

I'm not ashamed of him. I don't care if his trackmarks show. My family knows about it, because I talk to them about everything. My friends know about it, too.

I also don't think he's a weakling junkie (junkies rarely are weak, IMHO), or look down on him in any way. He is the most amazing person I've ever known. Unfortunately, he is one hardcore H junkie, and it always catches up with him. Since we hooked up, he's been gone (rehab, jail, hospital) for 12 months, and with me for 18. THAT's hard.

Also, apart from him being gone, what I hated the absolute most were the hiding games. I felt so much more peaceful when he would shoot up in front of me, than seeing him come back from some errand all fucked up and then hearing him deny that he ever shot up. What got to me was the lying. It destroyed all our trust, and turned me very paranoid. Towards the end I was scared to have sex with him because, even though I had always believed he never shared needles nor slept around, I started to question everything he said.

At this point, I would say that I need to stay away from addicts, period. Though I am tempted to go back to him, but that's another post. Whether they IV or not is quite inconsequential.
 
Hmmm...I'd give it a go again. I honestly don't think it'd be a deal breaker for me. Now, I've had friends that proven to be trustworthy and honest even during the worst of times when it came to them being in withdrawal and whatknot, so it's not like you are incapable of being a good person just because you do drugs. With that in mind, I wouldn't put up with bullshit in terms of lying and manipulation, but just drug use itself is no reason for me not to date someone. I think drugs and sex have a sort of bipolar effect. Sometimes the sex is amazing, but it eventually can take over the person and drain them of their energy. If it's getting to the point where they aren't at all trying, then I'll just have to cut my losses and move on.


muvolution said:
Plenty of people have called my "junkie scum" but then when I'm going to work in an awesome Armani suit, they don't seem to think the same thing. I present many outward appearances depending on who and how I am interacting with people, but when it comes back to my relationship, you can never escape that fact.
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Just pointing out that those people are being moronic in either case. Why would you pay this petty blabber any mind in the first place? Most people are idiots when it comes to things like this and they just go with pure Tosh.0esque superficiality that seems to pervade our current age-group. Anyway, it doesn't matter really...
 
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This really saddens me. So if a girl/guy is 5 years clean off it, he's/she's changed and would never do it again, just because she/he made a mistake in their past you'd completely rule out dating them? That's so judgemental! You're saying you've never made any mistakes in your past? That you've never changed anything in your life. I dont think an IV user is capable of truly loving or dating anything but that drug while they're using or in early recovery. But if a girl or guy is 5 years clean, disease free, a changed person, and say he or she is absolutely gorgeous and interesting and theymakes you very happy. Would you still not date them because of her past IV drug use?
 
This is totally a personal opinion and being on a druggie forum, my opinion is unpopular on this topic. OP, there is a poll post around here on whether or not you would date an IV drug user. It might interest you (I'll go try to find it and update my post).

There is just no way I would risk my health, well-being and life for some dude. There is just no way. I don't trust people in general, so if someone is so irresponsible with their own health, I certainly don't expect them to respect my health. I also have no tolerance for people and their addiction level at that point. I haven't come around any drug user who IVs (here and in real life) who thinks the drug isn't more important than everything in life. The IV drug user's mentality is just not attractive or something I want to deal with.

This, of course, is my own opinion. And being forced to ask him to wear a long-sleeve shirt to meet my parents? Umm, yeah, no.

ETA: Here ya go, shell10. This thread might interest you http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...-sex-with-an-IV-drug-user?highlight=drug+user
 
The main reason I wouldn't do it, is because I feel it would trigger my own use (as has happened in the past). I'm the type of person who can go months on end without injecting or ingesting anything, but I certainly have my preferences (which are coloured by logic as opposed to pure prejudice) when it comes to mode of administration. Still, most of the time I will smoke my drugs as this is the socially acceptable route to take, and also the most simple (IMO). but the one IV user I did date tried to ruin my life, so I couldn't ever go down that road again, although his drug use had less to do with that fact - it was more a case of him being the lowest form of life, with or without the drugs.
 
So along these lines, what do yall think, if someone is 5 years clean and never going to do it again should they even tell their significant other that they used to do IV drugs?
 
The one time I dated an IV drug user, she was a registered nurse, never re-used a rig, and always shot in discreet places. I asked her to rub vitamin E oil from the gel capsules on her injection sites to alleviate scarring, which she did with great success. She also voluntarily got an STD test and gave it to me when we began dating. I'd say, if you were dating an IV drug user, that was kiiiiinnnndddaaa the ideal situation to do so. Too bad it didn't last very long, but still....

Without some concern for his/her health and yours, though, I really wouldn't venture into those waters. I'm simply not brave enough.

~ vaya
 
hyroller said:
The main reason I wouldn't do it, is because I feel it would trigger my own use (as has happened in the past).
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I hadn't gotten this far in the thread before posting; this is actually exactly what ended my aforementioned IV drug user relationship - I began pinning myself (I have a ridiculous vein on my arm that's just *too* easy to hit, you'd have to be blind with Parkinson's shakes to miss, so the temptation is always there. I suggested she try plugging her dope, Dilaudid and Opana, as I've always gotten great rushes from that without the self-injurious behavior - and I suggested she do this because I'd begun buying rigs of my own, or using hers, etc. and it got really bad. Her "true" personality - complete with fangs and claws - came out when I requested she use a different ROA.

I mean it was bad enough we were both junky lovers supporting each others' habits. After the fifth injection I said fuck it and left. One of the best decisions I've ever made, IMO, seeing as where she is now... :( I could see it coming a mile away.

~ vaya
 
I want to bummp this... because I can.

there are some unanswered questions....

"If you were an ex IV drug user and clean, would you even bother telling them?"


if anyone is interested in my personal situation, I am no longer using drugs. except weed. which I don't IV.
 
muvolution said:
I want to bummp this... because I can.

there are some unanswered questions....

"If you were an ex IV drug user and clean, would you even bother telling them?"


if anyone is interested in my personal situation, I am no longer using drugs. except weed. which I don't IV.
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Congrats! :)

Personally, I would date an ex-IV user. As an ex-call girl who is always upfront about her past, I understand being instantly judged/dumped. I completely identify and empathize with stigmas facing ex-IV drug users. Although I consistently engaged in safe practices with my clients, potential mates still think that they're at risk with me. I guess it just comes with the territory...

Now current IV-users...that's a different story. Not because of the health risk, but because I like to indulge in the same vice as my man. I drink alot, so I want to date someone who does as well. I don't smoke weed or cigarettes, soI'd rather find someone who avoids those too. I like to pop an adderall or do some blow occasionally...etc...you get the pictures.

IV drugs are in no way shape or form appealing to me, and I don't want my man to habitually indulge in something I don't. Drugs can be transcendent and bond people with their use. If he's shooting up a good chunk of the week, that's a good chunk of the week that we aren't bonding. Watching him shoot up, then nod off just leaves me (not, LOL) high and dry. Sure we could prob have some bomb ass sex when he's high, but if I'm not on his level...it's just not as good.
 
Having seen people who have fallen through the rabbit hole with IV drug use, I would not. Except in extreme circumstances like Vaya's. I would have no problem with dating an anesthesiologist who sampled the wears occasionally.
 
muvolution said:
"If you were an ex IV drug user and clean, would you even bother telling them?"
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Probably. I'm the type of person who tells my bf pretty much everything about myself and that is a big thing. It's a big thing to become clean too, so it's something to be proud of. So I definitely would.
 
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