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Dating an injection drug user.

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I am curious about thoughts and experiences anyone has regarding dating an Injection Drug Users. Obviously there is a strong social stigma regarding the practice and I was just curious as to how that effects a sexual/ relationship dynamic. Do you see it as a source of conflict or trouble? Are you OK with the practice? Would it be cool if your s/o showed up at a family gathering at the beach either with a long shirt on, or a bunch of "cat scratches" that just happen to follow their veins?

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I personally would not date an IV user.

This is for a variety of reasons, which I'm sure you can imagine without me going into it all.

Whilst I do not look down upon those that choose to do this, it is not something I am willing to get involved with on such a level. Relationships are hard enough without throwing IV drugs into the mix!
 
real talk people. who does this?

If not, why: social stigma, risk of infection with a blood-borne communicable disease, does blood freak you out, etc...?

You certainly aren't going to hurt my feelings.
 
I dated an ex IV user. we had met when he was not an IV user and did not see each other for a couple of years. When I ran into him again, I just adored him. I found out his best friend had killed his whole family for the drug and that the man I adored was in recovery. I spent two years hoping that he could change, because he had a good soul. Users are usually very good people who get sucked down. As much as I loved him, I coudn't watch it anymore. My father died from heroin when I was little and it was hard to watch. We got stuck in a snow storm and we couldn't make it back to his methadone clinic, and I had to watch him go through withdraws and it was sad. We parted ways, we argued, he hit me, and you know I always check in on him and make sure he is safe and alive. He still does drugs, but that is his choice and I can love him, be happy he is getting married, be thankful it is not me, and not hurt myself further. And yes, they do have a intimate relationship with the needle, like almost the love of a another person. It is something I was never able to understand. If you choose to stay with him , expect a bumpy hard road, and that's cool. Make sure if you are hurting to know you can walk away...wish we could fix everyone. Sorry I rambled not about your question, but about that kind of love...sorry if I went elsewhere, it's a tough spot. I would not be cool with someone showing up or using around anyone. That's why I walked, even though I loved him. No one will change cause you want them too, and if you're not cool with something and they do it anyway, it will begin a vicious cycle of arguing, you feeling disappointing and him having a problem that he can't change for you. You can never put limitations on a person, especially a person who loves his drug of choice better then his well being. You will never win that fight, I hope i did not say anything offensive,take from it what you want, it's all your path.
 
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And everyone would notice when he showed up in long sleeves and it was 85 degrees out and he was sweating. Also as for the sexual relationship, you have to protect yourself, people forget to think when they are on drugs, and that's the point. You can always be his helper and make sure he has supplies, extra in case a friend comes unexpectedly to the circle. You can care for him and keep him safe, but it is a hard thing. Are you up for it? Are you cool with it? Do you want him to stop? Also, if he did go into recovery they would suggest for him to not have a girlfriend for at least a year, to focus on him.
 
I personally would not date an IV user.

This is for a variety of reasons, which I'm sure you can imagine without me going into it all.

Whilst I do not look down upon those that choose to do this, it is not something I am willing to get involved with on such a level. Relationships are hard enough without throwing IV drugs into the mix!

This is a person with a legitimate question, if you wouldn't then why even answer. I never thought I would either, but it happens. You say you are not judging, but clearly you are making a firm statement, support and help or move on, isn't that what this place is for. Especially if you do not know what it feels like. I am sorry if I sound harsh it is not my intention. I just didn't understand your comment of you didnt have an answer or a thought to share....
 
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Mel 22 -
actually, I think it would be really helpful if you went into it all, not just for myself, but for lots of people on bluelight. This website is about drug use. Alot of it is about hard drug use. Sure, the anal sex and hardcore porn-problems threads get alot of views and replies, but when there is something most people don't like to think about, no one says anything.


shellybabe - thanks for your views on the topic. I am actually the IDU in the relationship as my girlfriend doesn't actually do drugs. I am an adult and very comfortable with my own choices, however my drug use is usually the one nagging doubt about our relationship. She will sit next to me while I shoot up, and watch me, which is good because then I'm not like falling out in the bathroom and stuff, and in a way it is very honest - I don't hide what I do from myself or her, and we are both very upfront about it.
I mean, what is more honest, just doing it, or sneaking into the bathroom to shoot up? They know either way. But to sit there while your S/O watches... feels like the first time you ever got naked in front of someone, over and over again.

I guess it is just that, I have no idea how she can watch my inject when I can't even watch anyone else inject without getting queasy. Also, showing up to family gatherings where short sleeves or no shirt would be aprops... I have a makeup kit to cover the one small track I have from pre-bluelight days, but it still ain't fun.

I am just trying to get some perspective on what she puts up with. Really i've come to terms with the fact that I am an IDU. And hopefully now that I've put myself out there a bit, some more people will respond with their thoughts on this subject. really, you aren't going to hurt my feelings.

Plenty of people have called my "junkie scum" but then when I'm going to work in an awesome Armani suit, they don't seem to think the same thing. I present many outward appearances depending on who and how I am interacting with people, but when it comes back to my relationship, you can never escape that fact.

Maybe this would work better in TDS?
 
I wouldn't date an IV drug user because of the risk to my health, provided it's a physically intimate relationship, of course. I understand that not all IV users share needles and that there are a good many users, users on this board, for example, who take all of the proper precautions; even still, I feel like I've been around the block enough times to know how it all goes down most of the time.

I guess that I would be OK with it if, like a diabetic, my significant other always, always, always used clean needles and practiced a real sanitary shooting technique. But unless I lived with and spent most of my time with this significant other, I would always have that nagging suspicion, doubt and anxiety. It would be too much for me, I guess.
 
I wouldn't date an IV drug user for a number of reasons. Firstly, the risk of blood-borne infection is very real. The majority of injecting drug users here (UK) are infected with hepatitis, and I don't want that. Secondly, I am sure that I myself would soon also be an injecting drug user, and I know that, for me, that would be a Very Bad Thing. Also, I think it would be very emotionally draining. From what I gather from this site, in much of America, people shoot either pharm. opioids or heroin of reasonably consistent purity. That is not the case in the UK, and though I don't know if per capita rates of overdose are higher, I don't think I could put myself through the daily worry of not knowing whether I'd return home and find my girlfriend blue and cold. Finally, without meaning to stereotype or insult anyone, many injecting drug users are involved in acquisitive crime, and even if my partner was trustworthy, she would undoubtedly have friends and acquaintances who were not, and I don't like feeling like I can't relax for fear of being ripped off. So, there's my reasons. I'm sure some of what I've said is based on misinformation and prejudice, but I presume you were looking for an honest response and there is mine.
 
I think it's really great that your not the girl. And you want to know how it makes her feel. Love is love, my father od'd on heroin, I hated IV users. Contempt, they were scum. And who winds up finding an old love and he is what you dont like.

Surpirse surprise, the love was already there, the bond. It also feels you are a help, like he is being cared for, you want that person to feel loved and taken care of. Yes, it broke my heart to with him go through withdrawl and it broke my heart to find needles and watch him do everything but H, because that was the only thing he was trying to give up. But I loved him, how could I leave him, I can save him, I have a whole family who has done drugs, I understand from a place other people don't and oh yeah I love him. I think in all honesty if you are to choose that type of relationship, your setting your self up for a fall, but you don't know it. It can't work. One person cant be on something while the other person is not. It doesn't work, things come up. You feel guilt, she justs wishes it will come to an end and blah blah blah. No matter what she says, she is a woman, she is trying to help you....but she must secretly want you to be like No, i love you. How romantic would that be, we are women. It started to get to a point that I was drinking with him, because he really drank, crazy southern comfort, until we were either laughing or fighting. I came home one night, and he started yelling at me in front if my friend. I left, I hated leaving but I needed to save myself. I was spiraling.

If I didnt get divorced and my hub said yeah its okay if you do coke on the weekend, its not really okay. I love you so yeah. I married my husband because I was so honest with him, and he believed he could deal with my wild streak He just loved me so much, but when ush came to shove he couldn't he just wanted to. I was open, honest, felt clear about this is the only guy i will marry he gets it, i felt i had been honest and that we would be okay. When you fall, its always okay, but when comes down to day to day livin, its hard. And it is serious work. And you cant be passed out on a toilet bowl and put in the work. Everyone thinks they can and its quite noble, but unrealistic. I couldnt put in the work, you have to maintain and focus and work a relationship, you cant when your still hanging out. I thought I could and I couldnt. I thought I could still be shelly party bar girl ,not as often, but you can't, but still be his wife. Look at some of the most famous rock starts that have had the same playboy wife since they were famous, aren't they all clean. Even rockstars cant do it. Im telling the story from my point of view, so you know your girlfriend better, you can think of her personality but with my input, because we are all wired to a certain degree the same. Woudld you be okay if she was a sex addict. She had it under control, but maybe you wanted to have be the one that could make things work, Be different from the main frame, but it doesnt. I just got divorced last week, what I learned is to be with someone, one you need to be sober, or the distance just comes and the bond becomes your drug of choice. not building on your connection. Not a safe place to feel protected. I thought me and him were connecting because i was so okay with it and not judging and stuff. I was lying to myself. My husband and I, he thought I drank too much. I didnt even drink, but then just the word alcohol after three years just took on a life of its own. And yeah it was our bond, we shared that, that is what we always remeber, that loaded word. He was trying to protect me, and it came off as controlling and the spiral begins. For you to be in any succesful relationship, and anyone who has moved past drugs, because at some point you have to....they will tell you man you have to be sober and to be be truly able to get there, you wont be able to do it with a girlfriend. You have to work on you, and that is the only way it works. I said no, the counselor doesnt know us, well he did and he warned me and i thought i was okay to be the different one.. You'll want to make the effort to put her first, but there will be the time she sees you don't. And she will know you don't mean it, but it still hurts. My father had one bad dose, was a newbie. I soent my entire life feeling like my own dad choose the risk if that, who knew it was a bad dose, shit happens, in stead of being with me. It's a very complicated place to be. I don;t know your exact situation but that was mine and I can see some variations, but all the basics are there. She is a good girl.

And if you loved her, why would you let her see those things. The images that I saw of my boyfriend, when My husband saw me as the substance abuser, how awful i felt. why put yourself through that. Be friends, realize what your asking of someone to do. I hope you do not take anything I say in a hrash way, i just know it so well. We talk once a week, he tells me what drugs he is doing and how much alcohol. Only because I want him to hear it. And he is getting married, thats not gonna work for long. Substance and long term relationships dont work. neither do two people who like to get fucked up, cause what happeens you spiral together, and again the drug is the bond.
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Did you get a feel for it? For you be even asking, you must know that's got to be a hard spot for her to be in. I haven't unpacked, do not have my mouse, cant left click all of my misspellings. macs...ugh I did my best to write properly, but when I know about something, i just want t put it out. thoughts come from all angles, and you have to get them down before you miss a point so i type quick....hope that helps you begin to think about it.
 
Oh you guys are so young, thats the age we were. My twenties I never realized they would end until they did, you dont realize your mortal, its only in the back of your head. You're you and proud of it. That must attract her to you even further, you very young. Im 34 annd i still dont know what I want, but I know what I don't what. Be safe, my boyfriend is my age now and he still struggles with him, and at 34 its not cool anymore. You dont feel like you made a string choice, becasue everyone else gave that up and you didn't. Don;t let anything like that happen to you. It breaks my heart when I talk to him, and he still sounds 25 and his brothers saw him as fun in his 20's but now they love him, but he is the fuckup, he will always need a little extra, cause it stunts your ability to hit natural milestones. I took the scenic route, got there a little later, but you have to remeber, bad asss dont get far in their 30's. Im sorry IM not judging you at all, I just wish we knew what was coming before adult hood hit you. I kept going to bars and couldnt handle my liqour, no one wnated me there. I never saw it coming....people thought i was a lusch, i was just having fun, Fuck, I am preaching, I do not mean to, make your choices, you have a head about you and you think. You know even all we went through, i would do it all over again, i would get punched in the face again, we will always love each other, and he always says shelly yo my girl, i wish i woulda kicked this coulda i woulda married you, we were really in love.
 
Awesome! I talk to much, but ive never met another girl, unless she was using that did that. So i had alot to say....
 
I've never really thought about it. It's not "good" for you so I'd probably try and convince him not to. But I wouldn't break up with a guy because of that. But if he got any diseases or something then we'd definitely have to talk! So if he's doing it "safely" and not getting diseases and whatnot then it'd be okay I guess. But like, if things started affecting our relationship in a negative way (because of that) then we'd have to figure things out.

It'd also be different if we were already dating and he started using and if I knew before I started dating someone. If I knew before I started dating the guy, as long as he was as safe as he could be with it, then it would be okay.
 
OP, has your ole lady ever asked you to stop? If she did, would you try and make that change for her? Im not trying to bring you down,I am just genuinely curious.

I'm not sure if I could date a IV drug user. Sure, I myself use drugs (I dont IV) and it almost seems hypocritical, but, I like to keep my use on the DL and if you IV it can be hard to keep that fact covered up. I wouldn't be so worried about the social stigma that the person I was with would have to deal with, but, Id rather be concerned about the stigma that would be brought upon myself from their use. One should never take their rep too seriously, but rather worry about their own character, but if one lives in a small town like where I grew up, a reputation can go a long way in affecting your ability to get a job and all that.

It really is a good question. If your an IV user and/or live with one, it takes alot of heart to answer this question honestly.
 
she has never asked me to stop... although I have volunteered it, and am reasonably certain I could stick to it.

It's certainly not anything I'm in love with, ya know? It's not like her... she is definitely priority #1, besides myself.

ya'll have been in TDS too much lately, everyone being all sensitive an shit. Give it to me raw, yo.


also, the fact that we fuck like dogs (that's a good thing; rabbits if you prefer) when I'm high on opies may contribute to her not saying anything. what do ya'll think? Ladies?
 
no. while the health risk is a concern, my primary reasons would be due the financial and emotional toll and likelihood that we'd both end up junkies. maybe some people can be functional addicts, but it seems to me to be a pretty sad life to devote so much energy and money to injecting drugs into my veins. there are things i want in life and being an IV drug user or being involved with an IV drug user doesn't align with those goals. :\
 
I wouldn't date an IV drug user because of the risk to my health, provided it's a physically intimate relationship, of course. I understand that not all IV users share needles and that there are a good many users, users on this board, for example, who take all of the proper precautions; even still, I feel like I've been around the block enough times to know how it all goes down most of the time.

I guess that I would be OK with it if, like a diabetic, my significant other always, always, always used clean needles and practiced a real sanitary shooting technique. But unless I lived with and spent most of my time with this significant other, I would always have that nagging suspicion, doubt and anxiety. It would be too much for me, I guess.

I wouldn't date an IV user because I don't think I'd be able to handle it emotionally, as I lost a friend to heroin overdose who IV'ed, as well as the fact that it makes me queasy. I think above this, however, the risk to my health also would make it impossible for me to tolerate being in an intimate relationship with someone who was an IV user. Even if they did use a clean needle every time, there is still the risk of passing other types of infections back and forth and I seriously would not want to put my health on the line. It's just not worth it. You can love someone to death but it's a very scary idea to me to feel that death is always creeping nearby, if not by overdose than by the health-risk... (I'm not saying that other ROA's can't cause infection or overdose, but there is a greater risk with IV and that would jar me emotionally, more than I could handle.)
 
How about an ex IV user who's been tested and is clean? And would they have responsibility to tell a new partner about previous use even if they are tested clean?

Surely it would be no different from someone who had practiced unsafe sex but was clean?
 
How about an ex IV user who's been tested and is clean? And would they have responsibility to tell a new partner about previous use even if they are tested clean?

Surely it would be no different from someone who had practiced unsafe sex but was clean?

I think that's a good point. I'm not sure an individual would have the responsibility to tell a new partner about his or her previous use, but it's still something that I would appreciate knowing about.

I believe that people can and do change, but I also believe that people can and do sometimes fall back into their old habits. It's just the way the world works, I guess, and so I would want it on my radar.
 
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